We solve nothing.

Nothing we do here in the United States will matter if the world's largest polluters are not participating.

We can have cleaner air and water which is nice

16 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

We can have cleaner air and water which is nice

But if Climate Change is the cataclysm it's purported to be, everyone has to change. Amirite?

26 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

We can have cleaner air and water which is nice

The air and water have never been cleaner since mass industrialization, heck the ohio river caught fire 13 times.

 

30 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

But if Climate Change is the cataclysm it's purported to be, everyone has to change. Amirite?

Yea. I’m just saying, you like fresh air right? 

22 minutes ago, greenskeeper said:

The air and water have never been cleaner since mass industrialization, heck the ohio river caught fire 13 times.

 

Yea probably has something to do with us shipping all our manufacturing to china, India, Mexico. If clowns in charge were actually worried about the climate they’d force companies selling here but manufacturing there they would tax them more until they go green there, put in solar panels, all that crap they want us to do here. 

Just now, 20dawk4life said:

Yea. I’m just saying, you like fresh air right? 

Big fan of it.

And I live in a rural area. Grateful for that.

But I'm uneasy about draconian environmental accords that the world's largest polluters don't have to sign up for.

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Big fan of it.

And I live in a rural area. Grateful for that.

But I'm uneasy about draconian environmental accords that the world's largest polluters don't have to sign up for.

Well yea if they had to sign up for them it would be less money they can pay to politicians here and there. 

 

 

Just want everyone onboard.

It takes a village.....err a planet.

I'll eat bugs.

But we gotta stop making Nikes and iPhones.

And change how we outsource our pollution.

15 hours ago, greenskeeper said:

The air and water have never been cleaner since mass industrialization, heck the ohio river caught fire 13 times.

 

Carlin was the best

According to Hershel Walker we are just going green so we can give our clean air to China....

i ate some rice and beans the other day, so i have been part of the problem since.

On 1/1/2023 at 9:27 PM, Iggles25 said:

Just want everyone onboard.

It takes a village.....err a planet.

I'll eat bugs.

But we gotta stop making Nikes and iPhones.

And change how we outsource our pollution.

Well, start a circle, sing Kumbaya, see how that works for you.

Or, join reality, where it makes sense to NOT poison the air, water and earth. Regardless of whether or not the Chinese are doing their part.

The shortsighted, it burns.  Our ridiculously draconian measures are not only penalizing US citizens, less affluent ones the most, it is incentivizing China, India and Mexico to not do anything, which, if you believe what the climate hucksters say, will actually make things worse globally.  We have cleaner air and water, and no one is suggesting we backslide on that.  What we should not keep doing is forcing everyone into unproven technologies that we're nowhere near ready for.

The cry of the buggy whip maker.

This blue marble has to warm up a lot at some point. It always has. At least the Smithsonian study strongly suggests it.

 

At the end of the day, for humans, a warmer Earth is always preferential to a colder one.

Suncreen > parkas and mukluks. 

3 hours ago, The_Omega said:

The shortsighted, it burns.  Our ridiculously draconian measures are not only penalizing US citizens, less affluent ones the most, it is incentivizing China, India and Mexico to not do anything, which, if you believe what the climate hucksters say, will actually make things worse globally.  We have cleaner air and water, and no one is suggesting we backslide on that.  What we should not keep doing is forcing everyone into unproven technologies that we're nowhere near ready for.

Exactly. If solar and wind are the answer, then our companies manufacturing overseas should be forced to go green and all that. But that won’t help line politicians pockets, so here we are doing nothing.