February 15, 20232 yr Yeah, I am sure the voting profiles of the people is what is causing the poor response. Not the fact that in the dying rust belt a declining town like East Palestine, with a shrinking population, means nothing to anyone in power. Or the governor refusing assistance from Biden. Or the idea for a controlled burn of the toxic chemicals. TEW must be listening to Tucker these days.
February 15, 20232 yr The Mike DeWwne, Ohio governor said while he has spoken with President Biden, who offered assistance, he felt that no further assistance was needed. A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes, but this was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration.
February 15, 20232 yr All you need to know. Republicans probably believe this has little to no impact on the environment or humans. A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes, but this was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration.
February 15, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Wow, the people in that thread are stupid It's an adaptation of a very famous book from the 80's. Do you really think anyone in that thread reads books?
February 15, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Toastrel said: How about some nitric acid in Arizona? I think relatively smaller accidents like this one happen more often that we think they do. They make a blip on local news, then everyone forgets.
February 15, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, Toastrel said: i have not called him back. I'd be amazed if he's re-elected
February 15, 20232 yr I'm waking up to ash and dust I wipe my brow and I sweat my rust I'm breathing in the chemicals
February 16, 20232 yr On 2/13/2023 at 7:33 PM, The_Omega said: Fun fact, I’ve had relations in both of those states. Me too miss you
February 16, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, Toastrel said: Yeah, I am sure the voting profiles of the people is what is causing the poor response. Not the fact that in the dying rust belt a declining town like East Palestine, with a shrinking population, means nothing to anyone in power. Or the governor refusing assistance from Biden. Or the idea for a controlled burn of the toxic chemicals. TEW must be listening to Tucker these days. Yeah, I’m sure the response would be totally the same in any of the countless sh**holes that are blue and black instead of red and white. Great take!
February 16, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, TEW said: Yeah, I’m sure the response would be totally the same in any of the countless sh**holes that are blue and black instead of red and white. Great take! You do wear funky blinders. The Fing GOP governor REFUSED assistance, but please, make it a right left issue, like you do with everything.
February 16, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, Toastrel said: The Mike DeWwne, Ohio governor said while he has spoken with President Biden, who offered assistance, he felt that no further assistance was needed. A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes, but this was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration. 17 hours ago, jsdarkstar said: All you need to know. Republicans probably believe this has little to no impact on the environment or humans. A rule was passed under President Barack Obama that made it a requirement for trains carrying hazardous flammable materials to have ECP brakes, but this was rescinded in 2017 by the Trump administration. First, they still have to fully investigate and determine the actual cause of the derailment in order to hopefully prevent future ones. But the NTSB did deliver a statement and here's an excerpt: "NTSB continues to work with the investigative parties to determine what exactly caused the derailment and to evaluate the emergency response efforts. NTSB investigators have identified and examined the rail car that initiated the derailment. Surveillance video from a residence showed what appears to be a wheel bearing in the final stage of overheat failure moments before the derailment. The wheelset from the suspected railcar has been collected as evidence for metallurgical examination. The suspected overheated wheel bearing has been collected and will be examined by engineers from the NTSB Materials Laboratory in Washington, D.C." So if it indeed was the wheel bearing that failed, ECP brakes wouldn't have helped in any way. Also, it is possible the train was equipped with ECP brakes. The benefit of ECP brakes is to provide quicker response time and shorter braking distance overall. Once a train derails, that benefit is moot. Even if this tragedy had been the fault of brake type, which would mean it was about stopping the train on the tracks before it could collide with something, it didn't take this administration long to undue a lot of other moves the previous administration made. Two years seems like ample time. Why even bring this up? Curious ...
February 16, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, brkmsn said: First, they still have to fully investigate and determine the actual cause of the derailment in order to hopefully prevent future ones. But the NTSB did deliver a statement and here's an excerpt: "NTSB continues to work with the investigative parties to determine what exactly caused the derailment and to evaluate the emergency response efforts. NTSB investigators have identified and examined the rail car that initiated the derailment. Surveillance video from a residence showed what appears to be a wheel bearing in the final stage of overheat failure moments before the derailment. The wheelset from the suspected railcar has been collected as evidence for metallurgical examination. The suspected overheated wheel bearing has been collected and will be examined by engineers from the NTSB Materials Laboratory in Washington, D.C." So if it indeed was the wheel bearing that failed, ECP brakes wouldn't have helped in any way. Also, it is possible the train was equipped with ECP brakes. The benefit of ECP brakes is to provide quicker response time and shorter braking distance overall. Once a train derails, that benefit is moot. Even if this tragedy had been the fault of brake type, which would mean it was about stopping the train on the tracks before it could collide with something, it didn't take this administration long to undue a lot of other moves the previous administration made. Two years seems like ample time. Why even bring this up? Curious ... That is what ECP brakes are designed to do. Lower the risk of derailment. I bring it up, because people are somehow pointing fingers at the Biden team - despite the governor refusing their assistance. History can be useful.
February 16, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Toastrel said: That is what ECP brakes are designed to do. Lower the risk of derailment. I bring it up, because people are somehow pointing fingers at the Biden team - despite the governor refusing their assistance. History can be useful. Lower the risk of derailment due to braking distance, not broken axles.
February 16, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, brkmsn said: Lower the risk of derailment due to braking distance, not broken axles. They lower the risk of derailment BY braking ALL cars at once, FASTER than non ECP brakes. You know, reducing the speed/braking time, so instead of flying off the tracks due to an issue, like bearing or axle. That is their sole purpose.
February 16, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: They lower the risk of derailment BY braking ALL cars at once, FASTER than non ECP brakes. You know, reducing the speed/braking time, so instead of flying off the tracks due to an issue, like bearing or axle. That is their sole purpose. Let me get this straight, you are suggesting that once an axle breaks due to a wheel bearing failure, the ECP brakes will kick in and prevent this tragedy? lol Let me ask you, since you have clearly been conducting the investigation ... did this train have ECP brakes or not?
February 16, 20232 yr I have to leave for work, but I just want to say this: Nothing, and I mean nothing stops a train faster than coming off the tracks.
February 16, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, brkmsn said: Let me get this straight, you are suggesting that once an axle breaks due to a wheel bearing failure, the ECP brakes will kick in and prevent this tragedy? lol Let me ask you, since you have clearly been conducting the investigation ... did this train have ECP brakes or not? Go look it up. You don't believe me. Educate yourself.
February 16, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Go look it up. You don't believe me. Educate yourself. eaglesva? is that you?
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