March 18, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said: I'm ok bringing him back at around 3 for 27 with 18 guaranteed but i wouldn't mind adding Rapp and Myles Jack and calling it a day. pretty sure i saw jack already signed with the seahawks.. but Rapp isn’t a bad idea even if he does have some flaws
March 18, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said: Haven't seen that..... my bad it was the other steelers lb Bush to many of them to keep track of i was thinking it was jack.
March 18, 20232 yr Kevin Byard gets released CJGJ value really going to tank. He better sign something quick.
March 18, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, AmericanEagle77 said: Small sample sizes is fair, I actually consider this his only knock at the moment. Travis Fulgham was an excellent receiver for a small while and then fell off a cliff. I worry that once teams get tape on the kid they will try and exploit his weaknesses. Is he talented enough to overcome those flaws? Honestly these FA type players generally don’t last as long in the league, but you never know. Blankenship could be the exception. Considering it was just a sample size I did like how he played out there.
March 18, 20232 yr I'm not worried about Blankenship. He stood out in TC and preseason, played well on special teams and when injuries gave him an opportunity to play, he played great football. He's also a hard hitter. Currently, though, we do need a 2nd starter at his position. I think we'd all love to have seen CJGJ be that guy, but it doesn't appear he's on board with this team. But I'm excited about Blankenship's growth next season. Just some highlights:
March 18, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, brkmsn said: I'm not worried about Blankenship. He stood out in TC and preseason, played well on special teams and when injuries gave him an opportunity to play, he played great football. He's also a hard hitter. Currently, though, we do need a 2nd starter at his position. I think we'd all love to have seen CJGJ be that guy, but it doesn't appear he's on board with this team. But I'm excited about Blankenship's growth next season. Just some highlights: The thing is Blankenship also got hurt out there too. I do think he should have first crack at being a starter, but I’d feel a lot better about it if he and CJGJ were the safeties.
March 18, 20232 yr Cincy signed Safety Nick Scott last night. The market for CJGJ is drying up. He clearly overplayed his hand.
March 18, 20232 yr I could see him coming back on another 1 year prove it type deal and trying again next off season to get a bag.
March 18, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: I worry that once teams get tape on the kid they will try and exploit his weaknesses. Is he talented enough to overcome those flaws? Honestly these FA type players generally don’t last as long in the league, but you never know. Blankenship could be the exception. Considering it was just a sample size I did like how he played out there. Yep. This is the age old tug of war. NFL is largely about getting weaknesses on film, then being studied, and having to overcome the results of that study. And I think the thing is, it's just really hard to tell. I do think he's earned the right to try, and I do think there's examples of players who were able to have success at least for a little while with significantly fewer tools. Kurt Coleman for example, he had a starting run in the league for a while despite being very undersized, seemingly having worse instincts compared to Ship, etc etc. But I think the one thing that makes me think it's possible is that under Sirianni, we've started developing players all over the draft roster. TJ Edwards for example. Josh Sweat. We have a few examples of good player development. So we'll see. I just need him to be good really, I don't need a superstar. Though I think there's an argument to be had that Marcus Epps was in a similar situation by proxy of not having started until this year really and was absolutely awful, so at least in comparison to that it looks promising.
March 18, 20232 yr Also, yeah, I definitely think Gardner-Johnson got in over his head. I also think there's a couple things to keep an eye out for. Jalen Mills return probably isn't completely off the table. Same with that other guy if released. Remember that released players don't count in the compensatory pick formula. So people like that have no 'weigh' for Howie about whether it's better to take those or a good free agent. (Or draft) Automatic void years in contract do count for compensatory picks, but manual void (team/player option) years do not. So Amos, for example, would be in the comp pick formula. Luckily safety money as we've seen is quite low so there shouldn't be too much suffering there. What really causes us problems, unless we can get them back, is that we've been really underperforming on the market all around.
March 19, 20232 yr What I don’t really understand here is that actually I think he’s one of the players we should be trying to bring back. And I’m not saying we aren’t but they’ve put a fairly big money back to Cox again. Could they not have used that money to sign CJGJ? He’s young, made an impact last year and can play S or SCB.
March 19, 20232 yr Author Well, he’s back on social media, restored his Eagles posts on Instagram, and gave a shout out to his agent on Twitter. Take it for what it’s worth.
March 19, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: What I don’t really understand here is that actually I think he’s one of the players we should be trying to bring back. And I’m not saying we aren’t but they’ve put a fairly big money back to Cox again. Could they not have used that money to sign CJGJ? He’s young, made an impact last year and can play S or SCB. We could have and probably should have. It‘s just Roseman unwilling to pay more than his number. And he seems to have a good grasp on what someone can get on the market. Well.. and he doesn‘t seem to value safety that much. It‘s not as bad as RB or LB but pretty low nonetheless.
March 19, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, Infam said: We could have and probably should have. It‘s just Roseman unwilling to pay more than his number. And he seems to have a good grasp on what someone can get on the market. Well.. and he doesn‘t seem to value safety that much. It‘s not as bad as RB or LB but pretty low nonetheless. I think Howie understands the market much better than the player has in this case. CJGJ simply isn’t worth what he thinks he is, and if he keeps it up he’s going to find his financial chances from the Eagles even start to shrink. Howie knew what would happen and this is exactly why the Eagles did not use the franchise tag.
March 19, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: I think Howie understands the market much better than the player has in this case. CJGJ simply isn’t worth what he thinks he is, and if he keeps it up he’s going to find his financial chances from the Eagles even start to shrink. Howie knew what would happen and this is exactly why the Eagles did not use the franchise tag. Agreed and this is why Howie never uses the tag. He understands the market and value and doesn’t need to use it.
March 19, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Agreed and this is why Howie never uses the tag. He understands the market and value and doesn’t need to use it. Tags almost always are more trouble than they are worth even beside the price tag. Players holding out, pissed agents and a reputation around the league that the club will screw you come time is never worth it. You will eventually pay for it, even if it is impossible to quantify when and how much. I‘m glad we don‘t go down that road.
March 19, 20232 yr 41 minutes ago, Infam said: Tags almost always are more trouble than they are worth even beside the price tag. Players holding out, pissed agents and a reputation around the league that the club will screw you come time is never worth it. You will eventually pay for it, even if it is impossible to quantify when and how much. I‘m glad we don‘t go down that road. Lamar Jackson debacle. That situation has really blown up in the Ravens faces.
March 19, 20232 yr Author 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Lamar Jackson debacle. That situation has really blown up in the Ravens faces. It's a joint effort - the player is equally responsible. He seriously needs an agent.
March 19, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Procus said: It's a joint effort - the player is equally responsible. He seriously needs an agent. The tag is disliked by all players regardless if they have an agent or not. It prevents him from negotiating effectively with any team. Sometimes having an agent doesn’t mean they’re representing the best interest of that player either just like when back in the day TO’s agent let him sign that ridiculously bad contract with the Eagles which started that mess.
March 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: The tag is disliked by all players regardless if they have an agent or not. It prevents him from negotiating effectively with any team. Sometimes having an agent doesn’t mean they’re representing the best interest of that player either just like when back in the day TO’s agent let him sign that ridiculously bad contract with the Eagles which started that mess. Next question!
March 20, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Lamar Jackson debacle. That situation has really blown up in the Ravens faces. Personally I think it blew up in LJ's face. Ravens are proving their point. Unless you wanna believe what people say about the owners. How they're not gonna do the Ravens "dirty work" for them.
March 20, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Portyansky said: Personally I think it blew up in LJ's face. Ravens are proving their point. Unless you wanna believe what people say about the owners. How they're not gonna do the Ravens "dirty work" for them. The Ravens decided to put that tag on him which basically makes teams have to 1) sign LJ to a contract and 2) give the Ravens compensation. No other organization will want to do both. I doubt team would have a problem negotiating with Jackson if he is play was a free agent. Many players have been outspoken on their overall dislike on how Jackson is being treated right now.
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