January 28Jan 28 4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Once again Bill, a fairly staunch conservative, is being labeled a liberal coward for simple not being retarded Honestly my political philosophy can be summed up in this Family Guy cutaway gag:
January 28Jan 28 27 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Once again Bill, a fairly staunch conservative, is being labeled a liberal coward for simple not being retarded I didn’t label him liberal. But this "I don’t know with absolute 100% certainty so I refuse to answer” take is reddit tier subtardation.
January 28Jan 28 9 minutes ago, TEW said: I didn’t label him liberal. But this "I don’t know with absolute 100% certainty so I refuse to answer” take is reddit tier subtardation. It really isn't though. There's not great evidence to point you in any direction strongly unfortunately. Saying "I don't know" is a reasonable stance here considering the best stance any organization has taken is "we think a lab leak is slightly more likely based on relatively weak evidence". And other groups disagree.
January 28Jan 28 Today in how to come off as pathetic and small as possible on a message board: 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Wow, this has to be one of the absolute dumbest of hills for you to die on. You'd think you'd be embarrassed enough by now to give up but you apparently enjoy being clowned on. Yep, another gem from tiny.
January 28Jan 28 1 hour ago, The Norseman said: I find it very difficult to believe that bats, exotic dogs and / or pangolins were being sold in a market as urban as Wuhan lolwut. We already have concrete DNA evidence that these species were there. That fact is no longer in any way, shape, or form in dispute. EDIT: marmots, civets, and porcupines but not pangolins. When Andersen and his colleagues parsed the genetic sequences of thousands of organisms picked up on those swabs from Stall A, they found the genetic footprints of a host of exotic animals — masked palm civets, Himalayan marmots, Malayan porcupines and raccoon dogs — as well as the viral RNA of SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. https://www.npr.org/2024/09/19/g-s1-23605/covid-pandemic-origins-wet-market-wuhan-lab-leak-raccoon-dogs
January 28Jan 28 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: lolwut. We already have concrete DNA evidence that these species were there. That fact is no longer in any way, shape, or form in dispute. that's what THEY want you to believe!
January 28Jan 28 1 hour ago, TEW said: This is such hilarious cowardice, and we all know why. Bill gave a perfectly plausible answer. Grow up.
January 28Jan 28 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: I'm not. I'm going by their actions by banning the holding of live animals in wet markets after the SARS outbreak. They tried and it didn't work. I think it's pretty obvious by now that norseman and TEW don't understand what the number 2 means in SARS-CoV-2.
January 28Jan 28 The biggest thing I don't get is, what would the motivation be for anyone here to lie about thinking it's a lab leak? Like who do you think they're defending? The Chinese government? Why would anyone here give a F about blaming them? This shouldn't even a political argument and yet people are acting as if saying "I don't know" is somehow a partisan stance.
January 28Jan 28 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: It really isn't though. There's not great evidence to point you in any direction strongly unfortunately. Saying "I don't know" is a reasonable stance here considering the best stance any organization has taken is "we think a lab leak is slightly more likely based on relatively weak evidence". And other groups disagree. It really is. You can make low conviction assessments based on incomplete information. Again, only Reddit tier subtards have their brains malfunction when doing this.
January 28Jan 28 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: The biggest thing I don't get is, what would the motivation be for anyone here to lie about thinking it's a lab leak? Like who do you think they're defending? The Chinese government? Why would anyone here give a F about blaming them? This shouldn't even a political argument and yet people are acting as if saying "I don't know" is somehow a partisan stance. Their own egos and partisan politics, OBVIOUSLY.
January 28Jan 28 3 minutes ago, TEW said: It really is. You can make low conviction assessments based on incomplete information. Again, only Reddit tier subtards have their brains malfunction when doing this. He did, his low conviction assessment was that it was a bat-to-human spillover. You're just a mentally ill loser who somehow thinks that type of answer makes him a coward when our own intelligence agencies are split on this, and even the ones that do favor a lab leak assessment have done so with low confidence.
January 28Jan 28 5 minutes ago, TEW said: Their own egos and partisan politics, OBVIOUSLY. How does this affect anyone's ego though? Is anyone denying that a lab leak is a possibility? And how does the Chinese government being secretive vs the Chinese people having poor hygiene affect anyone's political beliefs?
January 28Jan 28 5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: How does this affect anyone's ego though? Is anyone denying that a lab leak is a possibility? And how does the Chinese government being secretive vs the Chinese people having poor hygiene affect anyone's political beliefs? yeah...i asked what the conspiracy is a couple hours ago but no answers so far.
January 28Jan 28 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: How does this affect anyone's ego though? Is anyone denying that a lab leak is a possibility? And how does the Chinese government being secretive vs the Chinese people having poor hygiene affect anyone's political beliefs? Because many people did deny the lab leak theory originally — aggressively so. I know because I was the one who originally brought it up as the most likely origin, just like I was the first person in here that said COVID was going to be a SHTF moment. Then they got on the lab leak concept was conspiracy theory nonsense, attempting to lampoon the idea. Then their political party called it boob. They spent time and effort making this argument. So lots of people are psychologically invested in not admitting they were wrong, their ideology was wrong, and their political party was wrong.
January 28Jan 28 2 minutes ago, TEW said: Because many people did deny the lab leak theory originally — aggressively so. I know because I was the one who originally brought it up as the most likely origin, just like I was the first person in here that said COVID was going to be a SHTF moment. Then they got on the lab leak concept was conspiracy theory nonsense, attempting to lampoon the idea. Then their political party called it boob. They spent time and effort making this argument. So lots of people are psychologically invested in not admitting they were wrong, their ideology was wrong, and their political party was wrong. There's a major difference between someone saying something is definitely not true and someone saying that the evidence isn't strong enough to prove it though. Given the fact that you've been conflating that in here now I'm having a hard time believing you cracked the case on the lab leak originally and no one entertained it as a possibility except you and Sloth. If so then by all means show receipts. And once again I feel the need to point out that Bill is not a liberal. He has absolutely zero reason to defend the democratic party. Nor do I think it even registered to him that was what you were insinuating by him saying "I don't know".
January 28Jan 28 15 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: what an ego! "Someone was mean to me in CVON 4 years ago, so unless Bill says definitively that he thinks a lab leak is the most likely cause of COVID right now he's retarded!"
January 28Jan 28 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: There's a major difference between someone saying something is definitely not true and someone saying that the evidence isn't strong enough to prove it though. Given the fact that you've been conflating that in here now I'm having a hard time believing you cracked the case on the lab leak originally and no one entertained it as a possibility except you and Sloth. If so then by all means show receipts. And once again I feel the need to point out that Bill is not a liberal. He has absolutely zero reason to defend the democratic party. Nor do I think it even registered to him that was what you were insinuating by him saying "I don't know". I haven’t been conflating anything. Learn to read. I never called Bill a liberal or insinuated he was a democrat. Learn to read. I brought up COVID originally on the old board in early 2020. This was well before the market collapse and lockdowns. Believe whatever you want, I don’t really care. 3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: "Someone was mean to me in CVON 4 years ago, so unless Bill says definitively that he thinks a lab leak is the most likely cause of COVID right now he's retarded!" Mean? No, they were just stupid. Just like you’re being now.
January 28Jan 28 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Threaten? What makes you use that word? The article itself is clear that there is no new significant evidence of any sort. Why is that so hard for you to understand? oh, I dunno. Maybe because when I post one article about the CIA changing their stance on this topic it it evokes 15 pages of people arguing ridiculous technicalities.
January 28Jan 28 5 minutes ago, The Norseman said: oh, I dunno. Maybe because when I post one article about the CIA changing their stance on this topic it it evokes 15 pages of people arguing ridiculous technicalities. Ok, then I suppose you mean "trigger" and not "threaten".
January 28Jan 28 This is what you said about Bill originally "This is such hilarious cowardice, and we all know why." Then when I essentially asked you "why" this was your response: 50 minutes ago, TEW said: lots of people are psychologically invested in not admitting they were wrong, their ideology was wrong, and their political party was wrong. Which implies says Bill is avoiding answering because he didn't want to admit his "ideology and political party" were wrong. So how exactly is that not lumping him in with Democrats? I'm reading just fine dumbarse. Take a breath.
January 28Jan 28 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: Ok, then I suppose you mean "trigger" and not "threaten". No, I didn't.
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