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Ongoing Roster Updates - Free agency (5/4/2023 - Eagles Sign TE Dan Arnold)

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2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I think I’d rather have CJGJ over Slay at this point. Perhaps the Eagles are high on Zeke McPherson to take that next step? 

Yeah if they still pull of CJGJ that would be great. Having two All-Pro CBs was a luxury that unfortunately didn't even payoff when needed last year. Not to their fault though (FU Gannon).

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22 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Basically yeah, but it could be he had some additional bonuses or salary guarantees that kicked in before June that don't now.

If it is an outright release (ie not a post June 1 designation) then it will reportedly yield $4.846M in immediate cap savings (while we take on $21.265M in dead money to the 2023 cap).  

8 hours ago, Rey said:

I'm not disputing that ... but at some point you can only free up so much from restructures. That dead money eventually piles up and handcuffs you especially when you are on the verge of signing your QB to a monster contract.

The dead money is never a problem.  It's an accounting tool that never comes due.  This year's dead money pays last year's bills. Next year's dead money pays this year's bills. Every year, teams spend about the same and every team has dead money.  It's basically the owners giving themselves a loan.

And the Slay thing means $8 million in dead money but an additional $17 million in cap space, which is a win on the balance sheet, if not the field. 

Remember that Fletcher Cox was released outright last year.

 

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13 minutes ago, Procus said:

Remember that Fletcher Cox was released outright last year.

 

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I was thinking that this could be a similar move, but I'm not sure if it makes sense this time around. Maybe they work something out with Slay if CJGJ moves on. I just can't see us keeping everybody other than Epps.

Yes!!!

Per Adam Schefter Big Fletch Cox coming back on a 10 million 1 year contract.

Then there's this:

 

Happy about the cox signing. Another leader and enforcer for the dline. 


 

 

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4 hours ago, time2rock said:

It's in the same screen shot ($8.6M dead money hit added to the 2023 cap, $13.8M will defer to the 2024 cap).  

Sorry if already asked and answered.  What does the team dead cap look like in 2024?

34 minutes ago, CheesesteakNBeer said:

Yes!!!

Per Adam Schefter Big Fletch Cox coming back on a 10 million 1 year contract.

I don't share your enthusiasm... that's too much for Cox at this point when they're already cap strapped.

3 minutes ago, nipples said:

I don't share your enthusiasm... that's too much for Cox at this point when they're already cap strapped.

Agreed that’s way too much at his age and with the role he should be playing. I get DT was a position of concern given everyone leaving but that’s still too much. I’d have preferred they brought back Joseph or Suh who would have been cheaper.

3 minutes ago, nipples said:

I don't share your enthusiasm... that's too much for Cox at this point when they're already cap strapped.

I love the guy, one of the 4 core guys left on this team. He's a great leader and still disruptive. 

1 minute ago, CheesesteakNBeer said:

I love the guy, one of the 4 core guys left on this team. He's a great leader and still disruptive. 

I mean they got Graham back for $6M... and he's way more of a leader and way more productive than Fletch at this point. I just think they could have got similar production to what Fletch will give for a lot less money.

Love that Cox is coming back. Whew $10 mill is a lot though. Thought he'd get like $5-7 mill.

Am I stupid in saying 'why wouldn't they bring back Suh?' on a 1 year deal?

Just now, LacesOut said:

Love that Cox is coming back. Whew $10 mill is a lot though. Thought he'd get like $5-7 mill.

Am I stupid in saying 'why wouldn't they bring back Suh?' on a 1 year deal?

If they hadn't signed Cox I'd have been fine with trying to get Suh back for a year. Would have been cheaper.

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9 minutes ago, nipples said:

I don't share your enthusiasm... that's too much for Cox at this point when they're already cap strapped.

My thoughts exactly.  Had he taken a deal similar to BG ($6M) it might have been more well received overall.  

Just now, time2rock said:

My thoughts exactly.  Had he taken a deal similar to BG ($6M) it might have been more well received overall.  

I have to believe this is the final nail in the CJGJ coffin. I mean I don't see any possible way they can afford him (even for way less than anticipated) after giving Cox $10M.

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3 minutes ago, time2rock said:

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Hmm... I don't know jack about how the cap actually works, but maybe there's some crazy way they can structure things to make Slay happy and significantly reduce his cap hit. Or they're in the process of trying to. Just don't see how they could have signed Cox to that deal otherwise.

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1 minute ago, nipples said:

Hmm... I don't know jack about how the cap actually works, but maybe there's some crazy way they can structure things to make Slay happy and significantly reduce his cap hit. Or they're in the process of trying to. Just don't see how they could have signed Cox to that deal otherwise.

If choosing between the 2, I would much prefer they try to bring CJGJ back before Slay.    Probably about the same $ (CBs in general warn more than safeties) and CJGJ is 7 years younger.  

4 minutes ago, nipples said:

Hmm... I don't know jack about how the cap actually works, but maybe there's some crazy way they can structure things to make Slay happy and significantly reduce his cap hit. Or they're in the process of trying to. Just don't see how they could have signed Cox to that deal otherwise.

if he restructures his contract hey can save the money also just didn’t seem like he was willing to do so for the money the eagles wanted to give him… maybe after they said they we have to pass he is having second thoughts 

25 minutes ago, nipples said:

I don't share your enthusiasm... that's too much for Cox at this point when they're already cap strapped.

 

16 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

Love that Cox is coming back. Whew $10 mill is a lot though. Thought he'd get like $5-7 mill.

Am I stupid in saying 'why wouldn't they bring back Suh?' on a 1 year deal?

Yeah - I think it would have been a really good move around the BG mark. 10 million feels like too much given his age and recent play (I know he got a fair few sacks, but so did most of the D-Line). Ah well - we have a pretty good D-Line rotation again at least.

 

46 minutes ago, nipples said:

I mean they got Graham back for $6M... and he's way more of a leader and way more productive than Fletch at this point. I just think they could have got similar production to what Fletch will give for a lot less money.

Graham's production could be because of Cox, Hargrave and the interior. Don't slight that man.

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