May 2, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: The turnaround by this guy is quite amazing. I know he built the SB team a few years ago but I still think luck played a big part there. But this roster that he’s now built not only is I think more talented but has a real chance to be a contender for many years. And he’s done that all in a few years despite cap restrictions and rebuilding a roster after a decline for a couple of years. If Wentz doesn't get hurt, we don't win the Super Bowl. Having Foles was as lucky as you could get. Especially considering his streaky history.
May 2, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, SPIDER-MAN said: If Wentz doesn't get hurt, we don't win the Super Bowl. Having Foles was as lucky as you could get. Especially considering his streaky history. We don’t know that for sure but yeah I mean I think most of us would agree that Wentz probably doesn’t win us the SB.
May 3, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: If Wentz doesn't get hurt, we don't win the Super Bowl. Having Foles was as lucky as you could get. Especially considering his streaky history. 22 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: We don’t know that for sure but yeah I mean I think most of us would agree that Wentz probably doesn’t win us the SB. I disagree, the way he was playing before his "Saint Nick Syndrome" destroyed his ego, he was on fire. Maybe we don't have the Philly Special and some of the other spectacular LII memories that we have that Nick gave us (thinking of that perfect pass TD to Clement, one of the most beautiful passes that I've ever seen), but I think we still win. 2017 was the season of a lifetime for Carson, it just got cut short by that knee injury... then his ego (along with a now bum knee), got in the way of the rest of his career. Give all of the credit in the world to Nick for his playoff run and how he stepped up, but let's not forget the coaches behind him making decisions that put Nick in position for that run. I truly believe that Doug and Frank would have done what was needed for Carson to win too.
May 3, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: 2017 was the season of a lifetime for Carson, it just got cut short by that knee injury... then his ego (along with a now bum knee), got in the way of the rest of his career. And we could discuss and debate this for all of time. It’s a great and fascinating argument to have. I remember at the time and immediately after the SB I said Wentz would have still won it. A few years on and I’m not so sure but that’s based on what’s happened since and my opinion on him changing.
May 3, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: And we could discuss and debate this for all of time. It’s a great and fascinating argument to have. I remember at the time and immediately after the SB I said Wentz would have still won it. A few years on and I’m not so sure but that’s based on what’s happened since and my opinion on him changing. You have to forget about everything from March 2018 onward and only consider everything from September 2016 through December 2017. This won't play here, but it will on YouTube, but go review our America's Game episode and refresh on his 2017 season: There's no way to know if we positively win and if I had the power to go back in time and change one thing, putting Carson in through the Super Bowl and keeping Nick on the sidelines, I absolutely would NOT do that. The ending of that season was absolute perfection in all ways. I just believe that we would win either way. Given a choice between Nick winning it all for us or Carson, I'd pick Nick every time.
May 5, 20232 yr In my mind, Howie was always a great draft pick and free agent dealer but he struggled mightily in the draft at times. There was clearly some interference from Andy, Chip and Laurie over the years that led to some bad picks so it probably wasn't all his fault...but the GM always takes the heat for draft implosions. The biggest change I see is that he has gotten much more aggressive in the draft and is taking consensus picks where they belong. Moreover, he's not reaching for good players from bad schools...he seems to have learned his lesson there. The first two rounds of the draft aren't that hard if you're a GM...take the best player available from a good school. If they don't pan out, nobody is going to blame you. Glad he's finally learned that lesson.
May 6, 20232 yr On 5/2/2023 at 3:03 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: We don’t know that for sure but yeah I mean I think most of us would agree that Wentz probably doesn’t win us the SB. Hindsight is always 20/20, but even back then there were grumbling that Wentz struggled with better teams. If we are going to play the hypothetical game though one could argue that if that dope Chip Kelly didn’t trade Foles to begin with we possibly could have had multiple Super Bowls by now. People like to downplay Nickks contributions to that Super Bowl, but what he did in the playoffs especially after the 2nd half of the the Falcons game was legendary. More than the Nick Foles made Chip Kelly seem like a legit NFL coach. He’s the only quarterback to ever do that save Vick for about one game.
May 6, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: Hindsight is always 20/20, but even back then there were grumbling that Wentz struggled with better teams. If we are going to play the hypothetical game though one could argue that if that dope Chip Kelly didn’t trade Foles to begin with we possibly could have had multiple Super Bowls by now. People like to downplay Nickks contributions to that Super Bowl, but what he did in the playoffs especially after the 2nd half of the the Falcons game was legendary. More than the Nick Foles made Chip Kelly seem like a legit NFL coach. He’s the only quarterback to ever do that save Vick for about one game. I mean look I don’t sit on that side of the argument but again it is one we could just discuss all day every day really.
May 6, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I mean look I don’t sit on that side of the argument but again it is one we could just discuss all day every day really. Ultimately it happened the way it did for a reason. Here’s what we do know though. During the height of Carson’s career in Philly (2016-2019) the only quarterback to have any playoff success for the Eagles was named Nick Foles.
May 6, 20232 yr On 4/29/2023 at 5:51 PM, b_west3 said: Um...I hate to break this to you and all...but we lost in February and only have one Lombardi. They didn't lose that game. It was taken from them by bs officials.
May 10, 20232 yr On 4/28/2023 at 5:30 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I’ve been one of Howie’s most vocal haters over the years but in the last couple of years he’s completely turned my views around. I’m very very glad that Howie is here and is our GM. My sentiments exactly.
May 10, 20232 yr On 5/5/2023 at 8:12 AM, The Norseman said: In my mind, Howie was always a great draft pick and free agent dealer but he struggled mightily in the draft at times. There was clearly some interference from Andy, Chip and Laurie over the years that led to some bad picks so it probably wasn't all his fault...but the GM always takes the heat for draft implosions. The biggest change I see is that he has gotten much more aggressive in the draft and is taking consensus picks where they belong. Moreover, he's not reaching for good players from bad schools...he seems to have learned his lesson there. The first two rounds of the draft aren't that hard if you're a GM...take the best player available from a good school. If they don't pan out, nobody is going to blame you. Glad he's finally learned that lesson. I think it was the Reagor pick over Jefferson. I think that stung him and now he's changed for the better.
May 10, 20232 yr On 5/6/2023 at 7:16 PM, eaglestime34 said: They didn't lose that game. It was taken from them by bs officials. Nah, there was no way to tell what was going to happen. Listen, the fumble cost the Eagles the game. They had a shot to come back, unfortunately the refs simply robbed the fans of a great ending. Either way it was gonna be a nailbiter, but in no way was it a lock that the Eagles would have come back to win.
May 10, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Vee said: Nah, there was no way to tell what was going to happen. Listen, the fumble cost the Eagles the game. They had a shot to come back, unfortunately the refs simply robbed the fans of a great ending. Either way it was gonna be a nailbiter, but in no way was it a lock that the Eagles would have come back to win. On the fumble there was a clear facemask on Hurts. The refs definitely played a big part in the game. 6 minutes to overturn Smith's catch towards the end of the first half was bs as well.
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May 11, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, Vee said: I think it was the Reagor pick over Jefferson. I think that stung him and now he's changed for the better. Probably the combination of that one and the JJAW over Metcalf pick...he took a ton of heat for both of those foul ups
May 11, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, The Norseman said: Probably the combination of that one and the JJAW over Metcalf pick...he took a ton of heat for both of those foul ups Was it a sure thing he was gonna take Metcalf? There were two more WRs taken before Metcalf. I'm pretty sure that was a TATE thing. 31 Teams knew Eagles were going to pick Jefferson.
May 11, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, eaglestime34 said: On the fumble there was a clear facemask on Hurts. The refs definitely played a big part in the game. 6 minutes to overturn Smith's catch towards the end of the first half was bs as well. That alleged facemask happened after the ball was out. I'm not sour over that missed call. You're mad that they took 6 minutes to get the call right? You can't be mad at that either.
May 11, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Vee said: That alleged facemask happened after the ball was out. I'm not sour over that missed call. You're mad that they took 6 minutes to get the call right? You can't be mad at that either. Was it right though?
May 11, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said: Was it right though? Ultimately I feel that it could have been called either way, and this was a perfect instance where the call made should stand because there simply wasn't enough evidence to make a convincing argument that it was or wasn't a catch. So was it right? Kind of.
May 12, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, Vee said: Was it a sure thing he was gonna take Metcalf? There were two more WRs taken before Metcalf. I'm pretty sure that was a TATE thing. 31 Teams knew Eagles were going to pick Jefferson. Not a sure thing at all. But taking a no name from Stanford when there were guys like Metcalf on the board was a bad call and everyone knew it as soon as it happened. Agree that Metcalf wasn't nearly as sure a thing as Jefferson, but I still think that JJAW pick haunted him.
May 13, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, The Norseman said: Not a sure thing at all. But taking a no name from Stanford when there were guys like Metcalf on the board was a bad call and everyone knew it as soon as it happened. Agree that Metcalf wasn't nearly as sure a thing as Jefferson, but I still think that JJAW pick haunted him. Speaking of JJAW, i find it funny that Ugo Amadi now has a SB ring while JJAW is still living with his mom.
May 13, 20232 yr On 4/28/2023 at 9:17 PM, EazyEaglez said: First the Chip Kelly disaster then to the Carson fiasco and that was all from 2015 to now. Kind of crazy. The Eagles mined the Chip Kelly roster pretty good. They moved up 5 slots in the draft to get to number 8 by dumping dog free agent contracts on Miami for Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell. Without that trade, they don't get to number 2 to land Wentz, and then don't get to flip him for what turns out to be a king's ransom following a series of Howie moves that's a topic of a whole other thread here.
May 13, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, Procus said: The Eagles mined the Chip Kelly roster pretty good. They moved up 5 slots in the draft to get to number 8 by dumping dog free agent contracts on Miami for Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell. Without that trade, they don't get to number 2 to land Wentz, and then don't get to flip him for what turns out to be a king's ransom following a series of Howie moves that's a topic of a whole other thread here. Just crazy how Howie just keeps moving. He cleaned up his mistakes and Chip Kelly’s.
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