I don't trust often but when I do, I trust Stoutland.

8 hours ago, DBW said:

You really think Cam is gonna play guard this year? I don’t see it.  He’s small and weak and compare to Kelce is soft serve ice cream.  You can’t put him between lane and kelce. That’s a recipe for disaster.  Kid needs another year in the weight room before he’s ready to take Kelces spot. 

Yeah... best player will play. Siri already said it

8 hours ago, DBW said:

You really think Cam is gonna play guard this year? I don’t see it.  He’s small and weak and compare to Kelce is soft serve ice cream.  You can’t put him between lane and kelce. That’s a recipe for disaster.  Kid needs another year in the weight room before he’s ready to take Kelces spot. 

Wow, for you to think Cam is weak is almost hilarious... far from that.  Cam will just fine at G this year then jump right back to C next year. Steen will get the opportunity to learn an no doubt at some point fill in during the season at 2 or 3 positions.

1 minute ago, Breeze 44 said:

Wow, for you to think Cam is weak is almost hilarious... far from that.  Cam will just fine at G this year then jump right back to C next year. Steen will get the opportunity to learn an no doubt at some point fill in during the season at 2 or 3 positions.

He'll have to beat out Steen. There will be a competition.

5 minutes ago, judunno said:

He'll have to beat out Steen. There will be a competition.

That's fine.. and I don't think Cam will have a problem winning that because of the experience he gained last year . 

Also.. every year...every camp...they say there is a "competition" at every position but seems like we all know who's in 

what position in May before they even go to camp.

6 minutes ago, Breeze 44 said:

That's fine.. and I don't think Cam will have a problem winning that because of the experience he gained last year . 

Also.. every year...every camp...they say there is a "competition" at every position but seems like we all know who's in 

what position in May before they even go to camp.

What experience did he gain at RG last year that makes you so certain?

 

Just one man's opinion.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-draft-third-round-grades-lions-get-b-for-hendon-hooker-steelers-earn-a-for-darnell-washington/

8 minutes ago, time2rock said:

 

Just one man's opinion.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-draft-third-round-grades-lions-get-b-for-hendon-hooker-steelers-earn-a-for-darnell-washington/

I saw that earlier but that might be analyzing him as a tackle. At guard he’ll be a space eater at 6’6 321 pounds and I trust Stoutland more than some random person that writes for CBSsports.com.

4 minutes ago, Mr_Philly said:

I saw that earlier but that might be analyzing him as a tackle. At guard he’ll be a space eater at 6’6 321 pounds and I trust Stoutland more than some random person that writes for CBSsports.com.

Agreed.  This is Tommy Lawlor's analysis (also brief) of Steen.

http://igglesblitz.com/2023/04/eagles-pair-players/

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

 

Just one man's opinion.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-draft-third-round-grades-lions-get-b-for-hendon-hooker-steelers-earn-a-for-darnell-washington/

I read that as well and thought it was a bit harsh, I think I'll take stoutlands opinion over some paid rando...

Depth pick for now.

Jurgens doesn't have any experience at guard either, so it's also a projection from his standpoint. I know some of the scouting reports last year on the draft sites noted that as one of his "cons" was the lack of versatility to play both guard and center and that he's strictly a center prospect.

I personally think Steen's physical profile gives him the edge over Jurgens for the RG competition, but Jurgens does have the advantage of being in the league for a year.

6 minutes ago, eaglesfan0075 said:

Jurgens doesn't have any experience at guard either, so it's also a projection from his standpoint. I know some of the scouting reports last year on the draft sites noted that as one of his "cons" was the lack of versatility to play both guard and center and that he's strictly a center prospect.

I personally think Steen's physical profile gives him the edge over Jurgens for the RG competition, but Jurgens does have the advantage of being in the league for a year.

Steen will win the job. The man went from DT to a starting OL on Alabama. Cmon man

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

Steen will win the job. The man went from DT to a starting OL on Alabama. Cmon man

No complaints with that 😎

This kid has great feet and is an excellent pass blocker. Maybe a future starter at RG or RT but his ability to play LT is a huge boost for the line. 

7 hours ago, judunno said:

But Jones still hasn't been picked yet. Something that teams don't like about him I gather.

Ended up going in the 4th, wonder what it was, pretty much a 3 year starting tackle for one of the best teams in College football, didn't allow a sack last year, he's hands down a better player than Steen for me but like you say there must be something.

I see this as more of a potential replacement for Driscoll. Driscoll is currently the guy we plug in at tackle or guard in a pinch. This is the last year of his rookie contract and it wouldn't be all that surprising for a team to overpay him in free agency. The Eagles can't afford to keep OL backups that other teams will pay to start for them. So we needed to find a swing tackle with the versatility to play inside as well. The Eagles are listing him at guard because of their opening there after the loss of Seumalo. But this is a player with most of his college experience coming from either OT position. We will see him get work inside and out and hopefully won't need him to start for the near future while Stoutland gets a chance to work his magic. Then, when it's time for Lane Johnson to retire, hopefully, one of these guys we keep drafting will be here and ready to take over. 

Great tape on Steen .. this kid is not a project.

 

8 hours ago, Breeze 44 said:

That's fine.. and I don't think Cam will have a problem winning that because of the experience he gained last year . 

Also.. every year...every camp...they say there is a "competition" at every position but seems like we all know who's in 

what position in May before they even go to camp.

The main concern about Cam is he’s literally the prototypical height and weight for a center in the league, but he’s about 15 pounds light for a guard. On top of that they have Kelce who is also undersized for the Center position. Overall the two of them make the inside somewhat smallish and Kelce’s best asset is have the ability to disengage from blocks at the line level to get hits in the secondary especially in the run game. That will be harder to accomplish if he has to spend more time assisting Cam. 

I always like drafting an O lineman for depth at some point each draft or at least UDFA.  To take this guy in the 3rd means they like him that much, and Stoutland University makes every lineman prospect better if nothing else. 

Just now, NOTW said:

I always like drafting an O lineman for depth at some point each draft or at least UDFA.  To take this guy in the 3rd means they like him that much, and Stoutland University makes every lineman prospect better if nothing else. 

I think they love his size and I’m sure Stoutland knows a lot about the kid and had a lot of input with the pick. If Stoutland thinks he can turn this kid into a pro level guard then I think you have to give him a chance to try. 

9 hours ago, Breeze 44 said:

Wow, for you to think Cam is weak is almost hilarious... far from that.  Cam will just fine at G this year then jump right back to C next year. Steen will get the opportunity to learn an no doubt at some point fill in during the season at 2 or 3 positions.

There’s a video of him in the weight room.  He’s struggling to throw around the same weight Kelce made look easy.  He’s small for a guard.  And you don’t want a small guard next to a small center.  If he was that good he would have been playing guard last year.  

26 minutes ago, DBW said:

There’s a video of him in the weight room.  He’s struggling to throw around the same weight Kelce made look easy.  He’s small for a guard.  And you don’t want a small guard next to a small center.  If he was that good he would have been playing guard last year.  

Over Seumalo? I realize Seumalo was underappreciated, but it would take a special rookie to beat him out of a starting spot. 

4 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I see this as more of a potential replacement for Driscoll. Driscoll is currently the guy we plug in at tackle or guard in a pinch. This is the last year of his rookie contract and it wouldn't be all that surprising for a team to overpay him in free agency. The Eagles can't afford to keep OL backups that other teams will pay to start for them. So we needed to find a swing tackle with the versatility to play inside as well. The Eagles are listing him at guard because of their opening there after the loss of Seumalo. But this is a player with most of his college experience coming from either OT position. We will see him get work inside and out and hopefully won't need him to start for the near future while Stoutland gets a chance to work his magic. Then, when it's time for Lane Johnson to retire, hopefully, one of these guys we keep drafting will be here and ready to take over. 

TLDR summary: 

Steen will win the starting RG job THIS year.

17 hours ago, Rey said:

Great tape on Steen .. this kid is not a project.

 

Thanks, I feel better about this pick. I saw one grade as an F. I don't think so. He may be better suited as a Guard to start out.