August 3, 20232 yr Man everything I have been reading and hearing about Jalen Hurts so far sounds like he’s on a different level right now. Plays that were runs at this time even last year are now throws, and not only that he’s been extremely accurate with the football too. Can Jalen get to 30+ passing tds and 4000 pass yards? The competition this year will supposedly be far greater than last year so we shall see. Players that I like what I’m hearing so far: Hurts, AJ Brown, Smith D, Swift, Bradbury, Smith N, Carter, Ellis, and Watkins. Not loving what I hear about: Mariota, Dean, Morrow,Eagles backup offensive linemen, Reddick’s contract stuff, Maddox still not a full go, and the safety position after Blankenship.
August 3, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Man everything I have been reading and hearing about Jalen Hurts so far sounds like he’s on a different level right now. Plays that were runs at this time even last year are now throws, and not only that he’s been extremely accurate with the football too. Can Jalen get to 30+ passing tds and 4000 pass yards? The competition this year will supposedly be far greater than last year so we shall see. Players that I like what I’m hearing so far: Hurts, AJ Brown, Smith D, Swift, Bradbury, Smith N, Carter, Ellis, and Watkins. Not loving what I hear about: Mariota, Dean, Morrow,Eagles backup offensive linemen, Reddick’s contract stuff, Maddox still not a full go, and the safety position after Blankenship. I really didn't get the sense that Reddick was "unhappy" with his contract. It seemed more like he was unhappy with where he's ranked among his peers and stuff like that. I'm not too concerned about Maddox being limited. It's giving McPhearson a chance to get plenty of work at slot. Reports from TC are always pretty vague overall, but it is nice to hear people saying positive things about Wallace. It would be unexpected for him to win the starting job opposite Blankenship, but he's a player that always had the tools and just needed to put it all together. If he does that this year, at the very least it will buy Brown some time to get acquainted with the NFL. We already know what Mariota is as a player. Mistakes early in camp by a vet on a new team aren't that big a concern. Hopefully the only time we see Mariota will be when we take starters out in 4th quarters of games with big leads. I still don't get what you're "hearing" about Dean that has you down. Still waiting for that splashy play? lol https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-camp-nakobe-dean-nolan-smith-engineer-leader-training-camp We still have over a month before any real football begins. There's only been one practice with pads so far. There are a lot more reports coming up over that span.
August 3, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, brkmsn said: I really didn't get the sense that Reddick was "unhappy" with his contract. It seemed more like he was unhappy with where he's ranked among his peers and stuff like that. I'm not too concerned about Maddox being limited. It's giving McPhearson a chance to get plenty of work at slot. Reports from TC are always pretty vague overall, but it is nice to hear people saying positive things about Wallace. It would be unexpected for him to win the starting job opposite Blankenship, but he's a player that always had the tools and just needed to put it all together. If he does that this year, at the very least it will buy Brown some time to get acquainted with the NFL. We already know what Mariota is as a player. Mistakes early in camp by a vet on a new team aren't that big a concern. Hopefully the only time we see Mariota will be when we take starters out in 4th quarters of games with big leads. I still don't get what you're "hearing" about Dean that has you down. Still waiting for that splashy play? lol https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-camp-nakobe-dean-nolan-smith-engineer-leader-training-camp We still have over a month before any real football begins. There's only been one practice with pads so far. There are a lot more reports coming up over that span. I’m not overly up nor down about TC stuff, but no one is saying much about Dean in a good or bad way. Sure there are comments from players and coaches, but most of the media aren’t saying much about Dean in a good way. Other than some mainstays who have earned my trust some of these other players aren’t giving me the warm and fuzzy feelings like Maddox. Maddox is a great slot corner, but the guy doesn’t stay healthy. Now that might not be a big deal to you, but it’s almost every year this guy isn’t healthy and now he’s still not healthy. Yeah not a good sign.
August 3, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: I’m not overly up nor down about TC stuff, but no one is saying much about Dean in a good or bad way. Sure there are comments from players and coaches, but most of the media aren’t saying much about Dean in a good way. Other than some mainstays who have earned my trust some of these other players aren’t giving me the warm and fuzzy feelings like Maddox. Maddox is a great slot corner, but the guy doesn’t stay healthy. Now that might not be a big deal to you, but it’s almost every year this guy isn’t healthy and now he’s still not healthy. Yeah not a good sign. So far in training camp, nobody has been buzzing about Kelce, Johnson, Dickerson, Mailata, Slay, Bradberry, Graham, Cox, Sweat ... to name a few. That doesn't mean they are all declining, regressing or disappointing. Not "hearing things" isn't a bad sign. We heard plenty about Dillard every year and that usually included who was beating him in 1 vs 1s. So, IMO, you are trying to make a negative out of nothing. Believe me, if Dean was struggling to get off blocks or struggling in coverage, we'd definitely be hearing about it. I think what we do know from camp so far is that Dean is the clear starter at MLB. They aren't working several guys in with the 1s. It means they already found their guy at that spot. Now he's getting important work, that is all. I understand Maddox's health will be a concern due to his injury history, but he's recovering from a specific injury that required surgery. It's not like he's sitting in bed. He's getting work as a limited participant right now. It's not a huge deal to let him recover fully.
August 3, 20232 yr Author Eagles 2023 training camp practice notes, Day 4: Jalen Hurts is kinda killing it out here Hurts probably had his best day on Tuesday in what has been an already very good camp so far. BY JIMMY KEMPSKI PhillyVoice Staff COLLEEN CLAGGETT/FOR PHILLYVOICE Jalen Hurts Day 4 of Philadelphia Eagles training camp is in the books, and it was the first padded practice of the summer. It was a busy practice, so let's get right to the notes. • The Jalen Hurts to A.J. Brown connection remains dominant. Early in practice, Hurts hit Brown on a well-executed back shoulder throw with James Bradberry in coverage. Good throw, timed well, good route, good catch. Later in practice, Hurts launched a deep throw to Brown, who hauled in the pass for a touchdown. The ball probably traveled around 60-65 yards in the air, which was all the more impressive given that Jalen Carter was closing in on him. (Quarterbacks don't get hit in camp, but in my opinion the free rusher made the degree of difficulty a little higher.) The ball found Brown on the other end near the hashes. Bradberry was in coverage once again, so it's not even as if they're beating slappies out here. Hurts probably had his best day today in what has been an already very good camp so far. • We may as well get the elite player highlights out of the way first. Jason Kelce had an impressive block about 15 yards down the field on a screen play to Boston Scott. He cleared Terrell Edmunds out of the way for a big gain. If you're wondering if old man Kelce still has the athleticism to make highlight reel blocks out in space... yes, he does. • Speaking of Terrell Edmunds, the Eagles showed some three-safety sets on defense today. Reed Blankenship and K'Von Wallace were on the back end, with Edmunds serving as a dime linebacker. That makes sense. Edmunds is listed at 6'1, 216, and could pass for an undersized linebacker. Sydney Brown got some second-team looks today after mostly playing with the third-team defense the first few days of camp. Blankenship continues to play exclusively with the 1's. • Dallas Goedert has been involved in pretty much every practice. He caught a quick hitter down the seam for a nice gain, and he got open on an out route for a reception. Christian Elliss was in coverage on both plays, but really nobody has been able to cover Goedert so far. Staying with the tight ends, Tyree Jackson was active today. In a red zone session, he made a nice catch on a difficult ball from Ian Book in the red zone, but could not keep both feet in. Later he ran a good slant route, and Tanner McKee hit in between the numbers with good timing. Marcus Mariota also found Jackson for a completion near the sideline. If Jackson can play the rest of camp and the preseason games like he has played so far he's going to make the team. • Milton Williams had a nice day. I wouldn't call it a double team necessarily, but he beat two blockers — Sua Opeta and Brett Toth — for a tackle for loss on Mariota on a designed run in the red zone. • We got a little taste of RB vs. LB pass protection 1-on-1's. I would say that the highlight was a Nakobe Dean rep against D'Andre Swift. Dean barreled right through Swift with a physical rush. That's part of Dean's game. He had 6 sacks in his final season at Georgia. It will be interesting to see if Sean Desai dials up a a few blitzes for Dean each game. • We got some OL-DL 1-on-1's today, too. Some highlights: Nolan Smith killed Chim Okorafor on an outside rush. It's not like he dusted Lane Johnson or something, but it's still pretty clear to see that he is a gifted athlete. (Smith also got immediate pressure on a play during 11-on-11's, by the way. It was at the other end of the field, so it was hard to see, but I assume he was unblocked. Even still, he got to the quarterback fast.) Derek Barnett smoked Tyrese Robinson on an inside spin move. Milton Williams got underneath Sua Opeta and walked him back into the pocket. Good power rush. The first-team OL pretty much won all their matchups, Cam Jurgens included. • The boys were hittin' today. The two highlights: UDFA CB Mekhi Garner drew first blood when he absolutely annihilated Charleston Rambo, who was arguably a defenseless receiver in the flat. Rambo's legs flew up in the air and he hit the ground hard. Dan Arnold had a nice catch and run, which ended abruptly when he ran square into K'Von Wallace, who dumped him to the turf. De-cleater. Garner's hit is definitely not something the Eagles want to see in practice, but Garner saw his chance to make a big hit and he took it. It's all fun and games when you hit Rambo like that. It won't be if it's DeVonta Smith. Garner is big (6'2, 212) and he's slow (for a corner) and he hits. The Eagles are loaded at corner. Put that man at safety. • Marcus Mariota had another shaky day. His lowlight was an overthrow to Dan Arnold that landed softly in the arms of K'Von Wallace. Easy INT for K'Von. • We've noted a few times so far that Brett Toth has had a lot of bad snaps while trying to play center. Add at least two more to the tally. His bad snaps are almost becoming disruptive enough that the team has to consider getting him out of there so he isn't messing up reps for the other players on offense. • Janarius Robinson had a batted pass today. He had another one of those earlier in camp. Long, lanky dude. • You want punter notes? I saaaaiiiidddd... DO YOU WANT PUNTER NOTES?!? Because we got a lot of 'em, ****es! Arryn Siposs and undrafted rookie Ty Zentner had a long-field blast off session, and a "pin them deep" session. I timed the blast off session for hangtime: Punt Siposs Zentner 1 4.73 4.53 2 4.93 4.61 3 4.75 (shanked to the right) 4.69 4 4.00 (ugly) 4.76 AVERAGE 4.60 4.65 Neither of those hang time averages are good. Donnie Jones used to consistently hover around the 5 second range, with some bombs having upwards of 5.5 seconds of hangtime. Siposs was worse than Zentner during this session, as two of his punts were clearly bad. I also charted where each punter landed the ball during a coffin corner session. Punt Siposs Zentner 1 6 yard line 13 yard line 2 5 yard line 10 yard line (landed out of bounds) 3 3 yard line 6 yard line 4 13 yard line 4 yard line 5 2 yard line 6 5 yard line 7 4 yard line AVERAGE 5.4 yard line 8.25 yard line I thought both punters were very good during this session, and I'd give the edge to Siposs. The two bad Siposs punts in the blast-off session are bothersome, so I'll officially award the day to Zentner. https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-2023-training-camp-practice-notes-day-4-jalen-hurts-is-kinda-killing-it-out-here/
August 3, 20232 yr The two bad Siposs punts in the blast-off session are bothersome, so I'll officially award the day to Zentner. They cannot move on from Siposs fast enough IMHO. Bottom of the league statistically and always a threat to shank. I never thought we'd miss Cameron Johnson but here we are.
August 3, 20232 yr Yeah, you don't really notice punters or realize how important they are until yours completely blows. Hopefully Siposs can turn it around because it doesn't seem like Zentner is very good either.
August 3, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, rrfierce said: When we signing the punt god? That guy (Araiza) needs to get a shot. I know he worked out for the Jets but AFAIK he's till an FA.
August 3, 20232 yr Author 3 hours ago, eglz1 said: That guy (Araiza) needs to get a shot. I know he worked out for the Jets but AFAIK he's till an FA. He is. Hard to believe there isn’t anyone out there better than Siposs. What is Donnie Jones up to these days?!?
August 4, 20232 yr 15 hours ago, time2rock said: Eagles 2023 training camp practice notes, Day 4: Jalen Hurts is kinda killing it out here Hurts probably had his best day on Tuesday in what has been an already very good camp so far. BY JIMMY KEMPSKI PhillyVoice Staff COLLEEN CLAGGETT/FOR PHILLYVOICE Jalen Hurts Day 4 of Philadelphia Eagles training camp is in the books, and it was the first padded practice of the summer. It was a busy practice, so let's get right to the notes. • The Jalen Hurts to A.J. Brown connection remains dominant. Early in practice, Hurts hit Brown on a well-executed back shoulder throw with James Bradberry in coverage. Good throw, timed well, good route, good catch. Later in practice, Hurts launched a deep throw to Brown, who hauled in the pass for a touchdown. The ball probably traveled around 60-65 yards in the air, which was all the more impressive given that Jalen Carter was closing in on him. (Quarterbacks don't get hit in camp, but in my opinion the free rusher made the degree of difficulty a little higher.) The ball found Brown on the other end near the hashes. Bradberry was in coverage once again, so it's not even as if they're beating slappies out here. Hurts probably had his best day today in what has been an already very good camp so far. • We may as well get the elite player highlights out of the way first. Jason Kelce had an impressive block about 15 yards down the field on a screen play to Boston Scott. He cleared Terrell Edmunds out of the way for a big gain. If you're wondering if old man Kelce still has the athleticism to make highlight reel blocks out in space... yes, he does. • Speaking of Terrell Edmunds, the Eagles showed some three-safety sets on defense today. Reed Blankenship and K'Von Wallace were on the back end, with Edmunds serving as a dime linebacker. That makes sense. Edmunds is listed at 6'1, 216, and could pass for an undersized linebacker. Sydney Brown got some second-team looks today after mostly playing with the third-team defense the first few days of camp. Blankenship continues to play exclusively with the 1's. • Dallas Goedert has been involved in pretty much every practice. He caught a quick hitter down the seam for a nice gain, and he got open on an out route for a reception. Christian Elliss was in coverage on both plays, but really nobody has been able to cover Goedert so far. Staying with the tight ends, Tyree Jackson was active today. In a red zone session, he made a nice catch on a difficult ball from Ian Book in the red zone, but could not keep both feet in. Later he ran a good slant route, and Tanner McKee hit in between the numbers with good timing. Marcus Mariota also found Jackson for a completion near the sideline. If Jackson can play the rest of camp and the preseason games like he has played so far he's going to make the team. • Milton Williams had a nice day. I wouldn't call it a double team necessarily, but he beat two blockers — Sua Opeta and Brett Toth — for a tackle for loss on Mariota on a designed run in the red zone. • We got a little taste of RB vs. LB pass protection 1-on-1's. I would say that the highlight was a Nakobe Dean rep against D'Andre Swift. Dean barreled right through Swift with a physical rush. That's part of Dean's game. He had 6 sacks in his final season at Georgia. It will be interesting to see if Sean Desai dials up a a few blitzes for Dean each game. • We got some OL-DL 1-on-1's today, too. Some highlights: Nolan Smith killed Chim Okorafor on an outside rush. It's not like he dusted Lane Johnson or something, but it's still pretty clear to see that he is a gifted athlete. (Smith also got immediate pressure on a play during 11-on-11's, by the way. It was at the other end of the field, so it was hard to see, but I assume he was unblocked. Even still, he got to the quarterback fast.) Derek Barnett smoked Tyrese Robinson on an inside spin move. Milton Williams got underneath Sua Opeta and walked him back into the pocket. Good power rush. The first-team OL pretty much won all their matchups, Cam Jurgens included. • The boys were hittin' today. The two highlights: UDFA CB Mekhi Garner drew first blood when he absolutely annihilated Charleston Rambo, who was arguably a defenseless receiver in the flat. Rambo's legs flew up in the air and he hit the ground hard. Dan Arnold had a nice catch and run, which ended abruptly when he ran square into K'Von Wallace, who dumped him to the turf. De-cleater. Garner's hit is definitely not something the Eagles want to see in practice, but Garner saw his chance to make a big hit and he took it. It's all fun and games when you hit Rambo like that. It won't be if it's DeVonta Smith. Garner is big (6'2, 212) and he's slow (for a corner) and he hits. The Eagles are loaded at corner. Put that man at safety. • Marcus Mariota had another shaky day. His lowlight was an overthrow to Dan Arnold that landed softly in the arms of K'Von Wallace. Easy INT for K'Von. • We've noted a few times so far that Brett Toth has had a lot of bad snaps while trying to play center. Add at least two more to the tally. His bad snaps are almost becoming disruptive enough that the team has to consider getting him out of there so he isn't messing up reps for the other players on offense. • Janarius Robinson had a batted pass today. He had another one of those earlier in camp. Long, lanky dude. • You want punter notes? I saaaaiiiidddd... DO YOU WANT PUNTER NOTES?!? Because we got a lot of 'em, ****es! Arryn Siposs and undrafted rookie Ty Zentner had a long-field blast off session, and a "pin them deep" session. I timed the blast off session for hangtime: Punt Siposs Zentner 1 4.73 4.53 2 4.93 4.61 3 4.75 (shanked to the right) 4.69 4 4.00 (ugly) 4.76 AVERAGE 4.60 4.65 Neither of those hang time averages are good. Donnie Jones used to consistently hover around the 5 second range, with some bombs having upwards of 5.5 seconds of hangtime. Siposs was worse than Zentner during this session, as two of his punts were clearly bad. I also charted where each punter landed the ball during a coffin corner session. Punt Siposs Zentner 1 6 yard line 13 yard line 2 5 yard line 10 yard line (landed out of bounds) 3 3 yard line 6 yard line 4 13 yard line 4 yard line 5 2 yard line 6 5 yard line 7 4 yard line AVERAGE 5.4 yard line 8.25 yard line I thought both punters were very good during this session, and I'd give the edge to Siposs. The two bad Siposs punts in the blast-off session are bothersome, so I'll officially award the day to Zentner. https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-2023-training-camp-practice-notes-day-4-jalen-hurts-is-kinda-killing-it-out-here/ "Later in practice, Hurts launched a deep throw to Brown, who hauled in the pass for a touchdown. The ball probably traveled around 60-65 yards in the air, which was all the more impressive given that Jalen Carter was closing in on him.” Remember all that Hurts has no arm chatter from some people around here? Good times. 😂
August 4, 20232 yr 22 hours ago, brkmsn said: So far in training camp, nobody has been buzzing about Kelce, Johnson, Dickerson, Mailata, Slay, Bradberry, Graham, Cox, Sweat ... to name a few. That doesn't mean they are all declining, regressing or disappointing. Not "hearing things" isn't a bad sign. We heard plenty about Dillard every year and that usually included who was beating him in 1 vs 1s. So, IMO, you are trying to make a negative out of nothing. Believe me, if Dean was struggling to get off blocks or struggling in coverage, we'd definitely be hearing about it. I think what we do know from camp so far is that Dean is the clear starter at MLB. They aren't working several guys in with the 1s. It means they already found their guy at that spot. Now he's getting important work, that is all. I understand Maddox's health will be a concern due to his injury history, but he's recovering from a specific injury that required surgery. It's not like he's sitting in bed. He's getting work as a limited participant right now. It's not a huge deal to let him recover fully. So people have commented a lot about Bradbury, Slay, Graham, Dickerson, Mialata, Bradbury, and Sweat. I have just read that Sweat is having his best camp yet and is even dropping into coverage. All of those players are now proven vets by the way so you’re comment is kind of pointless. We know what those players are capable of. Nakobe Dean is not standing out against a group of average to below average linebackers. I know you gush over average players, but if this kid is supposed to become a great one he should stick out more especially when you consider people are constantly talking about N. Smith even though he’s mixed in with all of those vets you mentioned. You want to excuse away mediocre play that’s your prerogative. You want to ignore the observations of people commenting on the players again that’s your prerogative. You aren’t going to make me change my viewpoint’s anymore than I can change yours. I’d like to hear Dean is standing out from a bunch of average to below average players around him. You think that makes him elite I guess. To each his own.
August 4, 20232 yr Author Eagles training camp observations: A couple of Georgia rookies pop The Eagles were back in pads for Day 5 of training camp, so it's time for another set of practice observations By Dave Zangaro • Published August 3, 2023 The Eagles were back on the field in pads Thursday morning and will have their first days back-to-back with another session on Friday. After Friday’s practice, the Eagles will hold a walkthrough on Saturday before the public practice at the Linc on Sunday night. It was a cool, overcast morning at the NovaCare Complex on Thursday. Let’s not waste any time. To the observations: 1. As always, we’ll start with housekeeping: Same injury report to start Day 5 as we saw on Day 4: Did not practice: WR Deon Cain (ankle) Limited: Haason Reddick (groin), Avonte Maddox (toe), Derek Barnett (ankle) There were two injuries during practice on Thursday. Linebacker Nakobe Dean left during individual drills and took a long trip into the trainer’s tent just off the field. He returned to the sideline but did not participate in the rest of the practice. The fact that he remained as a spectator and didn’t go inside appeared to be good news. Ditto for cornerback James Bradberry, who took a trip to the trainer’s tent toward the end of practice before becoming a spectator on the sideline. He hung around after practice, spending time with his children. The Eagles practice again tomorrow morning, so we won’t have to wait long for an official update from the team. 2. A few depth chart notes: • Second-year OL Cam Jurgens was again the first-team right guard but perhaps the best sign for Jurgens being the starter appeared while watching the second-team OL. Rookie Tyler Steen got work as the second-team left tackle, Dennis Kelly was at left guard and Jack Driscoll was at right tackle. Before today, every rep Steen got was as the second-team right guard. But Steen played tackle in college and it appears the Eagles are using his versatility now. If Steen isn’t going to be a starter, he needs to be a backup capable of filling in at multiple positions. • Without Dean in team drills, Nicholas Morrow lined up next to Christian Elliss with the first team. Those two are believed to be fighting for the same weakside linebacker position. When the team had just one linebacker, it was Morrow. • Zech McPhearson took the first first-team reps at nickel corner. Maddox is still recovering from an injury and McPhearson has gotten most of the reps in his place. • After Bradberry left practice, second-year cornerback Josh Jobe got bumped up to the first-team opposite Darius Slay. Interesting that it was Jobe and not veteran Greedy Williams, but that could just be because of the sides they typically play. • Reed Blankenship and Terrell Edmunds began the day as the first-team safeties, which has become the norm but Nick Sirianni said before practice that K’Von Wallace is one of the guys fighting for the open safety spot. The others are presumably Edmunds and rookie Sydney Brown. Blankenship has gotten every first-team rep and appears to have solidified one of those jobs. • Second day in a row with some three-safety looks. This could be a tool in the defense. • Kick returners from Thursday: Boston Scott, Rashaad Penny, Kenny Gainwell and … A.J. Brown. 3. Rookie cornerback Kelee Ringo from Georgia had a nice pass breakup in team drills. While working in a session with the second-team defense against the first-team offense, Ringo lined up against DeVonta Smith out wide. The situation was 3rd-and-goal from the 10. Smith ran a 10-yard out and Ringo jumped it to knock away the pass, which did come out a tad late from Jalen Hurts. Still, good moment for the rookie, who has mostly been buried on the third team so far. 4. It was a notable day for another Georgia rookie: Nolan Smith. While we have to mention that Dean was out of practice pretty early but Smith got a couple reps at off-ball linebacker. Smith is an intriguing player because of his athleticism and he has the ability to play off-ball. It makes you wonder if Eagles defensive coordinator Sean Desai will find some innovative ways to get Smith on the field this year instead of just running him as the fourth edge rusher in the rotation. Smith has also become the star of 1-on-1s. He had an insanely quick move around Chim Okorafor on Tuesday and followed it up with a couple impressive reps on Thursday. Working against Steen at left tackle, Smith had another crazy bendy rush around the edge. Smith has the ability to grab grass while accelerating around the edge. And a bit later he used a push-pull move to toss aside rookie Trevor Reid in a 1-on-1. Good day for Smith. 5. Some other notes from OL-DL 1-on-1s: • Lane Johnson dealt with a Brandon Graham bullrush, although it did move him back into the pocket. Those two have been going at it for a decade. • Cam Jurgens had a nice rep against Fletcher Cox, using his leverage to stop the six-time Pro Bowler. • While Jason Kelce hasn’t gotten a veteran day off yet, the Eagles do give him breathers. For instance, Kelce didn’t participate in these 1-on-1s. It was Brett Toth trying to stop Jordan Davis. Davis moved him off his spot easily. • Good first rep for Landon Dickerson against Milton Williams, who came back later with a nice move to rip past Kelly a little later on. • Like Johnson and Graham, we’ve seen a lot of Josh Sweat vs. Jordan Mailata over the years. They competed to a draw on today’s rep. • Highlight play from second-year edge rusher Kyron Johnson, who bowled over Okorafor, who hasn’t looked good in these drills. But it was a big-time power move for a smaller rusher, who isn’t known for power. The Eagles played Johnson a bit at off-ball linebacker in the spring but he’s back on the edge in camp and has made some plays. Johnson had a quick move around the edge on the other side later in 1-on-1s. He lost his footing a tad but he had Okorafor beaten badly. • Jalen Carter hasn’t looked as dominant in these 1-on-1s as you might expect, but he did have a very good power move vs. Toth today. I’d bet on Carter having some flash plays in these drills soon. • Rookie Moro Ojomo had a sneaky move to slip through Cameron Tom. Ojomo is beginning to stand out a bit more. Ojomo later had another strong move through Sua Opeta. • In the last practice, Derek Barnett victimized tackle Roderick Johnson with a deadly spin move. But Fred Johnson saw the spin on Thursday and was ready for it. Shut it down. • In addition to the rep where Smith dipped under Steen at left tackle, Steen had another rough rep. While Steen was working at guard, Marlon Tuipulotu beat him soundly. After this rep, Steen looked a little defeated. He then got coached up by OL coach Jeff Stoutland and when Stout left him alone, Dickerson stepped in to offer up some coaching too. • Haason Reddick got just one rep in 1-on-1s and he’s still very, very good. He bent around Jack Driscoll at right tackle. Driscoll barely touched him. He stood no chance. 6. Sweat is very quietly putting together an excellent training camp. Today, he batted down a pass from Marcus Mariota and nearly picked him off. It was funny because as the ball was in the air, Dennis Kelly almost tried to snatch the ball out of the air but then wisely let it drop. We have seen Sweat’s athleticism on display a bunch this camp. While Tyree Jackson caught a pass on him today, Sweat looks incredibly smooth dropping into coverage for a guy who is 6-5, 265 pounds. 7. In back-to-back practices, a third-string quarterback has thrown a pass that could get receiver Charleston Rambo hurt. This time, it was Ian Book throwing the hospital ball to Rambo. Mekhi Garner didn’t lay a big him on Rambo this time like he did on Tuesday but the pass fell incomplete. 8. Patrick Johnson got some first-team reps on Thursday and made the most of his chances, picking up a "sack” on Jalen Hurts, who took off downfield anyway. Johnson is probably the sixth edge rusher on the team behind Reddick, Graham, Sweat, Smith and Barnett so there might not be a roster spot for him. But he’s doing all he can. 9. A couple of tough coverage plays from linebackers today. Morrow played safety in college but his coverage skills have been suspect in camp. Dallas Goedert is obviously a tough matchup but Morrow wasn’t even close to him in a team period. And then a bit later, D’Andre Swift separated from Davion Taylor — another LB who should theoretically be good in coverage — on a wheel route. The pass fell incomplete but Swift had a step on Taylor, who failed to even turn his head around. 10. When the first-team offense was facing the second-team defense, A.J. Brown was lined up against Greedy Williams, who committed one of the more obvious DPIs you’ll see in camp. Don’t even think he argued. But at least he didn’t let Brown catch a pass on him. Stupid Observation of the Day: As I watched the Eagles go through stretch today, Jason Kelce stood out. He had his jersey rolled up with his belly exposed for everyone in attendance. And then it hit me: If I told someone who didn’t know anything about football to pick out the greatest player on the field, they would probably name a lot of numbers before they got to 62. That’s part of the beauty of football. https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/eagles-training-camp-observations-a-couple-of-georgia-rookies-pop/531014/
August 4, 20232 yr Author Eagles 2023 training camp practice notes, Day 5: Added responsibilities for Nolan Smith? What Jimmy Kempski saw in the Eagles' fifth training camp practice. BY JIMMY KEMPSKI PhillyVoice Staff COLLEEN CLAGGETT/FOR PHILLYVOICE Eagles rookies Jalen Carter (98) and Nolan Smith (3) Day 5 of Philadelphia Eagles training camp is in the books, and the boys were in shells and shorts (no pads) on Thursday after the first padded practice of camp on Tuesday. Still, it was an eventful day. • I think the starting point for the practice notes today is that there were some players playing new positions. Tyler Steen played LT on the second-team offensive line today, Dennis Kelly moved from LT to LG, and Sua Opeta moved from LG to RG. Steen is the notable change here, of course. Has the team decided that Cam Jurgens has more or less already won the camp battle for the starting RG spot, so they may as well get some reps for Steen at tackle in addition to guard to increase his versatility as a backup? 🤔 The more interesting positional observation is that first-round rookie Nolan Smith got some reps at off-ball linebacker. There's little doubt that Smith has the athleticism to play off-ball linebacker, and certainly the Eagles are short on depth there, but do they want to distract from his development on the edge, which of course is the far more important position but one where the Eagles have incredible depth? It's probably worth noting that Nakobe Dean made a trip to the medical tent today. Jeff McLane of the Inquirer says he's fine. To be clear, Smith got a very small handful of reps at off-ball linebacker. It will be interesting to see if he gets more of them as camp progresses, or if it was merely a matter of just letting him fill in for one practice for the injured Dean. • Steen and Smith had a bunch of battles on the edge today. On a run play, Steen cleared Smith out all the way to the numbers. Smith got a little chippy with Steen and violently shed the block after the play was over. Later, Smith put an inside move on Steen, and looked like he had a win, but Steen recovered and pancaked him. Smith got some revenge against Steen in 1-on-1's when he blew right by Steen for a sack. • As long as we mentioned 1-on-1's let's cover some of the other highlights. My top 5, in no particular order: On Haason Reddick's first 1-on-1 rep of camp, he registered a strip sack. He blew right by Jack Driscoll around the edge. We mentioned Steen's bad 1-on-1 rep above, but he also stoned Derek Barnett in another rep while working at LT. Jalen Carter hasn't "wow'd" so far in 1-on-1's but he had an impressive rep today. He wound up on the ground against Sua Opeta in his first rep, but he absolutely destroyed Brett Toth on his second rep. It's been a rough camp for Toth. Kyron Johnson has been feasting on poor undrafted rookie Chim Okorafor all throughout camp. Today Johnson hit Okorafor with a speed-to-power rush that put Okorafor on his backside. I'd like to see Johnson get more opportunities against some of the better tackles. Janarius Robinson had a flashy inside spin move that dusted Roderick Johnson. • I really liked what I saw from D'Andre Swift on an inside run today. There was a small hole and he burst through it into the open field. Earlier this offseason, we published a review of Swift's 2022 season with the Lions, and cut up video all of his rushing attempts, if you have 14 minutes to kill: Because he is such a shifty, elusive runner, I almost expected that Swift would be a guy who would unnecessarily bounce runs to the outside instead of at least getting what was blocked up for him, but I didn't see that. If you watch the video above, you'll see that he generally ran through the correct crease without hesitation. And that's what I saw today. • Greedy Williams drew a pass interference flag on A.J. Brown today on a deep ball down the left sideline. It feels like Greedy has been flagged quite a bit through the first five practices. Greedy is grabby. • I thought Jalen Hurts had his worst day in what has been a stellar camp so far. The lowlight was a throw that came out late, intended for DeVonta Smith that should have been picked off by Kelee Ringo. Ringo did a nice job reading the route and getting in position to make a big play, but he didn't finish. Hurts still hasn't thrown an interception yet, but he got a little lucky today. • Undrafted rookie wide receiver Joseph Ngata made a few catches, which has been a theme so far. One play was particularly funny. Ngata caught a WR screen and looked like he had some room to run, but he was leveled from the blind side by... Brett Toth. Toth was trying to get out in front of Ngata to block for him, but, oops. • The Eagles had an illegal man downfield penalty today. I couldn't see who it was on. If you followed the Eagles' 2022 season (and 2021, for that matter), they committed a ton of illegal man downfield penalties. • The special teams units practiced fielding squib kicks today. That's smart. There's a new rule this season that teams can call fair catches on kickoffs from anywhere on the field and get the ball at the 25-yard line. My sense is that the Eagles will be a team that gladly calls for fair catches whenever possible. Of course, if the opposing team doesn't have a lot of respect for the returners, they'll likely want to try to force the Eagles to return kicks instead of being able to call fair catches. Expect to see a lot more squib kicks in the NFL in 2023. https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-2023-training-camp-practice-notes-day-5-added-responsibilities-for-nolan-smith/
August 4, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: So people have commented a lot about Bradbury, Slay, Graham, Dickerson, Mialata, Bradbury, and Sweat. I have just read that Sweat is having his best camp yet and is even dropping into coverage. All of those players are now proven vets by the way so you’re comment is kind of pointless. We know what those players are capable of. Nakobe Dean is not standing out against a group of average to below average linebackers. I know you gush over average players, but if this kid is supposed to become a great one he should stick out more especially when you consider people are constantly talking about N. Smith even though he’s mixed in with all of those vets you mentioned. You want to excuse away mediocre play that’s your prerogative. You want to ignore the observations of people commenting on the players again that’s your prerogative. You aren’t going to make me change my viewpoint’s anymore than I can change yours. I’d like to hear Dean is standing out from a bunch of average to below average players around him. You think that makes him elite I guess. To each his own. No. You're hearing what you want to hear. Oh no, "Nakobe Dean has yet to make a big splash play!" The sky is falling! With the exception of leaving to the medical tent and watching the rest of the last practice, Dean has had no threat of losing the starting gig. He has not been rotating with Bradley in with the 1s in practice or anything. Yet, you are concerned because a beat writer didn't see a flashy play. So in that LB group, Dean is the one clear starter. That surely means there must be a concern. Of course I'm not going to change your opinion because I'm not there watching practices. You'll base your opinion on one statement that one other person made, that you read because you weren't there either. lol Oh, yeah ... I heard about "Bradberry and Bradberry." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-training-camp-day-4-observations-jalen-hurts-a-j-brown-put-on-a-show-as-pads-come-on-for-first-time/ A.J. Brown gonna A.J. Brown Part of the reason for Hurts' strong start in camp has something to do with Brown, who made a few highlight plays of his own in 11-on-11s. On the first play, Hurts was flushed out of the pocket and threw a ball to Brown, who made a back-shoulder catch off James Bradberry for the first down. Hurts placed the pass where only Brown could catch it. Hurts found Brown again, hitting a 60-yard touchdown pass that had the crowd applauding. Brown beat James Bradberry on a perfect deep ball from Hurts. The touchdown reminded the fans in attendance of how dominant the two were last year. Brown had three nice catches against Bradberry in this practice. He continues to get better.
August 4, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, brkmsn said: No. You're hearing what you want to hear. Oh no, "Nakobe Dean has yet to make a big splash play!" The sky is falling! With the exception of leaving to the medical tent and watching the rest of the last practice, Dean has had no threat of losing the starting gig. He has not been rotating with Bradley in with the 1s in practice or anything. Yet, you are concerned because a beat writer didn't see a flashy play. So in that LB group, Dean is the one clear starter. That surely means there must be a concern. Of course I'm not going to change your opinion because I'm not there watching practices. You'll base your opinion on one statement that one other person made, that you read because you weren't there either. lol Oh, yeah ... I heard about "Bradberry and Bradberry." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-training-camp-day-4-observations-jalen-hurts-a-j-brown-put-on-a-show-as-pads-come-on-for-first-time/ A.J. Brown gonna A.J. Brown Part of the reason for Hurts' strong start in camp has something to do with Brown, who made a few highlight plays of his own in 11-on-11s. On the first play, Hurts was flushed out of the pocket and threw a ball to Brown, who made a back-shoulder catch off James Bradberry for the first down. Hurts placed the pass where only Brown could catch it. Hurts found Brown again, hitting a 60-yard touchdown pass that had the crowd applauding. Brown beat James Bradberry on a perfect deep ball from Hurts. The touchdown reminded the fans in attendance of how dominant the two were last year. Brown had three nice catches against Bradberry in this practice. He continues to get better. No one is clamoring over any of the Eagles linebackers. If you’re hearing or seeing something different if must be from PFF.
August 4, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Traveler Vic said: Patrick Johnson knee injury? Gets carted off the field. At first I heard knee, then I heard that it might be ankle rather than knee. Waiting for real info rather than rumors.
August 5, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: No one is clamoring over any of the Eagles linebackers. We're doomed!!!11!!
August 5, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, brkmsn said: We're doomed!!!11!! Yeah. Maddox can’t run. "No problem.” If Dean goes down with a real injury. "It’s all good.” Nothing matters right because you mediocre love squad will win everything needed just like Minshew did last year right?
August 5, 20232 yr Author Stock up, stock down after the first week of 2023 Eagles training camp After five Eagles training camp practice, whose stock is up and whose stock is down? BY JIMMY KEMPSKI PhillyVoice Staff COLLEEN CLAGGETT/FOR PHILLYVOICE Eagles undrafted rookie WR Joseph Ngata The Philadelphia Eagles are five practices into their 2023 training camp, so we are a ways away from a more full evaluation of individual players and the team as a whole. Still, here are some players who are off to good starts, and some who are not. Stock up 📈 QB Jalen Hurts: Hurts' stock was already pretty high after arguably looking like the best player on the field during the Super Bowl and scoring a new contract worth over $50 million per year. But he does not appear to be content. Hurts has been more accurate than he ever has in camp, and he continues to grow as a decision maker, as he has not yet been picked off this summer (he did come close to his first pick on Thursday). If there is any fear that 2023 Hurts will look in any way like 2018 Carson Wentz, there shouldn't be. He looks poised to kill it again this season. 📈 RB D'Andre Swift: Swift has made a lot of catches through the first week of practices, and he has looked explosive as a runner. He appears to be the most talented player in what is an intriguing Eagles running back committee. I do have two caveats: There has only been one padded practice, and breaking tackles is not a big part of Swift's game, so he probably should look good in practices with less contact. The Eagles haven't had a running back in quite some time capable of making a voluminous catches out of the backfield, so maybe I'm a little more impressed because I haven't seen it in a while. Still, Swift looks the part of player primed to make plays in the Eagles offense. There has only been one padded practice, and breaking tackles is not a big part of Swift's game, so he probably should look good in practices with less contact. The Eagles haven't had a running back in quite some time capable of making a voluminous catches out of the backfield, so maybe I'm a little more impressed because I haven't seen it in a while. 📈 WR Joseph Ngata: I would guess that only A.J. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert, and D'Andre Swift have made more catches through the first five practices than Ngata, an undrafted rookie free agent. Ngata is a big-bodied wide receiver at 6'3, 217, with 33 1/8" arms and 10 1/4" hands. Most of his work has been in the short-to-intermediate areas of the field, which is fine on a team that has so many players who can make plays down the field. He has shown that he has good hands and can make the plays that come his way. If Ngata can also show that he can be quality blocker and route runner willing to do some dirty work, he can perhaps carve out some sort of Zach Pascal-type role. It's worth noting that the coaches have been on Ngata, often correcting mistakes, maybe more so than with any other receiver on the team. In my view, that's a good thing. They care, and they want him to get better, whereas that level of attention might not be given to a player that the staff knows has no real chance of cracking the 53. 📈 C Cam Jurgens: If you've been following along with our Eagles training camp battle tracker, you know that we have already called the starting RG job for Jurgens. 📈 LB Nolan Smith: I don't know how much Smith is going to play as a rookie with so many stud players on the edge ahead of him on the depth chart, but I do know that when he does get his opportunities he is going to be fun to watch. His athleticism and change of direction skills are obvious, and he plays with an physical intensity and confidence that you don't often see from rookies. Stock down 📉 QB Marcus Mariota: Mariota has shown early on that he can run, so I believe that he has a high floor as a quarterback who can run the Eagles' RPO schemes, relying on the offensive line and uber-talented skill players to win games if need be. But the accuracy of his throws to the intermediate and deeper parts of the field... 😬. In fairness, as we have noted in our practice notes, Mariota is playing behind a second-string offensive line that has been overmatched by the Eagles' impressive D-line depth, and he has been fielding snaps from Brett Toth, who, well, is the next guy on this list. 📉 C Brett Toth: Toth can't snap when the offense is in shotgun. He has been firing worm burners back to Mariota consistently throughout camp, so much so that his bad snaps are wasting reps for the other players on the field. Toth has experience at tackle in the NFL, but the Eagles seemed to want to give him an opportunity to show that he can be a backup center as well. It has not gone well. 📉 CB Greedy Williams: There have been a lot of penalty flags thrown in Williams' direction through the first five practices. 📉 The linebackers: Early in camp a year ago, the linebackers were making a lot of plays. This year... not so much. 📉 The punters: The Eagles have only had two practices that included team punting sessions, but neither Arryn Siposs nor Ty Zentner have looked good in "open field" punting (AKA going for hang time / distance). They have both looked good in "pin them deep" punting. In my opinion, the former is more important for this particular Eagles team. Nick Sirianni often goes for it on fourth down once the offense passes the 50 yard line. As such, the Eagles rarely punt in "pin them deep" situations. Logically it makes more sense to prioritize punters who are better in "open field" situations. I'm not so sure they see it that way. https://www.phillyvoice.com/stock-up-down-after-first-week-2023-eagles-training-camp-jalen-hurts-dandre-swift-joseph-ngata-nolan-smith/
August 5, 20232 yr Author Eagles training camp observations: Hurts takes tough coaching from Sirianni Some tough love from Nick Sirianni, a possible serious injury and some 1-on-1 highlights in the latest Eagles practice observations By Dave Zangaro • Published August 4, 2023 A light rain began to fall on Friday morning at the NovaCare Complex as the Eagles held their longest practice of the summer. It lasted 1 hour and 41 minutes. This was the second day of their first back-to-back sessions of training camp. A few injury tidbits, a fired up head coach and some highlight plays in today’s observations: 1. As always, housekeeping: The Eagles might have suffered their first significant injury of training camp, when outside linebacker Patrick Johnson went down on Friday. Johnson was tended to on the field and some teammates stopped by to wish him well before he was carted to the trainer’s tent and then eventually inside. It didn’t look good. That’s a shame because Johnson was off to a very good start in camp, making splash plays almost daily. You could see how disappointed his teammates were to see him get hurt. It sounds like the Eagles and Johnson dodged a bullet: James Bradberry (groin) and Nakobe Dean (ankle) are listed as day-to-day after suffering injuries in Thursday’s practice. Both were on the field Friday as spectators. Here’s the full injury report from the start of practice: Will not practice: Bradberry (groin), Dean (ankle), Deon Cain (ankle) Limited: Derek Barnett (knee), Avonte Maddox (toe), Haason Reddick (groin soreness) 2. Some depth chart notes from Friday: • Cam Jurgens again began the day as the first-team right guard. But during some 11-on-11 situations, the Eagles pulled Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson before the completion of the period, which led to a shift with the first team. When that happened, Jurgens went to center and was replaced by Tyler Steen, while Jack Driscoll filled in for Johnson at right tackle. Steen began the day as the second-team left tackle for the second straight day, which is the best sign yet that Jurgens has won the right guard job. • Without Dean, the Eagles are pretty light on linebackers, so keep that in mind. But the first two off-ball ‘backers with the first team were Christian Elliss and Nolan Smith. Smith also got some off-ball linebacker snaps on Thursday and that’s worth monitoring. It could be a unique way to get him on the field more as a rookie instead of just his normal reps as an edge rusher. • Saw some big nickel from the Eagles again on Friday with safety Terrell Edmunds playing in the box. That is a tool in Sean Desai’s tool belt. • Reed Blankenship still gets every first-team rep at safety. Edmunds began the day next to him and K’Von Wallace rotated in. Rookie Sydney Brown got more second-team reps. Josiah Scott got his first safety reps of camp; he got a ton of work there last summer. • Without Bradberry, second-year cornerback Josh Jobe got work with the first team. • Jake Elliott made all six of his field goal attempts in a competitive setting early in practice. It was notable that Arryn Siposs held for the first three and Ty Zentner held the next three. The operation looked pretty smooth with both of them. 3. One of Sirianni’s five core values is accountability and that applies to every player and coach, including the $255 million franchise quarterback. During a 2-minute drill late in practice, the Eagles were practicing with a running clock. When Jalen Hurts didn’t manage the clock properly, Sirianni really gave it to him, shouting about Hurts' mismanagement of the clock. Hurts walked to the sideline and then a few minutes later, dropped to the ground and did some pushups, seemingly punishing himself. We’ve heard a bunch about how coachable Hurts has been in his career and this is the latest example. Hurts was coached by his father in high school and then got a healthy dose of Nick Saban at Alabama. Hurts has even said he likes to be coached hard and responds to it. 4. Hurts has been pretty great all training camp but finally threw his first interception of the summer in that same situational drill that ended with Sirianni screaming. Hurts tried to get a pass to Dallas Goedert on the right sideline but Darius Slay had dropped back underneath and picked him off. It has been a quiet training camp for Slay but he finally got on the board. 5. The offensive highlight from 11-on-11s was a play where Hurts rolled left, reversed course and sprinted all the way back to the right side of the field and unleashed a bullet to Goedert. The Eagles’ star tight end threw out one paw and snagged the pass for a first down. 6. I watched 1-on-1s between receivers and corners today. Here were some highlights: • Olamide Zaccheaus (who has had a quiet summer) dusted Kelee Ringo with a quick double move and made a nice catch. A double move in a 1-on-1 is tough, especially for a little receiver vs. a big corner. Zaccheaus also got free on Mario Goodrich later. • Quez Watkins might have had the overall play of the day with a leaping grab over Avonte Maddox in the corner of the end zone. A bit later, Watkins beat Mekhi Garner with a little double move for a touchdown. • Goedert had a highlight rep grab over Eli Ricks in the right corner of the end zone. Tough duty for Ricks. • Greedy Williams had solid position on Tyrie Cleveland but Cleveland rose above him to grab a perfectly thrown ball from Marcus Mariota. • The last rep of 1-on-1s had the potential to be a big play for Ringo but the Eagles’ rookie cornerback didn’t make a play. He had good coverage on Charleston Rambo but when the ball was in the air and Rambo was reacting to it, Ringo never turned his head or even put his hands up and Rambo made the grab. Gotta do more than he did. More on Ringo later. 7. With the injury to Bradberry, Jobe was out there with the first-team defense and had a notable matchup against DeVonta Smith in 7-on-7s. Jobe had extremely tight coverage on Smith and was able to knock down a pass with one hand on a ball that was well placed from Hurts. But a bit later, Jobe slipped on the field (it was misting at that point) and Smith broke free on a curl, catching a ball in the front corner of the end zone near the pylon. Like we’ve seen a million times from Smith, this was elite body control. 8. Of the three top running backs (D’Andre Swift, Kenny Gainwell and Rashaad Penny), it’s probably safe to say Penny has had the quietest training camp. But the Eagles ran a stretch play to the right with Penny on Friday and he got to show some burst, busting it down the sideline. I had been waiting to see this from him. 9. Let’s get back to Ringo. He had a great pass breakup on Thursday and had another nice breakup on Friday on a pass to Britain Covey in the middle of the field. Ringo bullied him. But after failing to turn his head or even get a hand up in that 1-on-1 drill, he did it again late in a team drill and was flagged for an obvious defensive pass interference. We’ve seen some good flashes from Ringo but he has been handsy at times and isn’t a finished product yet. 10. Undrafted receiver Joseph Ngata is standing out a bit. He beat Ringo on an inside move for a touchdown from Mariota in a red zone drill during team drills. Ringo is a big guy but so is Ngata and he was able to use his body to shield Ringo from the ball. Of all the depth receivers, Ngata has probably looked the best this summer. Stupid Observation of the Day: During receiver drills early in practice, Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson was throwing passes and looked great. Johnson last played at the University of Utah back in 2008 but he was a very good college QB. He’s 36 now but can still spin it. https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/eagles-training-camp-observations-hurts-takes-tough-coaching-from-sirianni/531149/
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