August 17, 20232 yr On 8/15/2023 at 12:11 PM, MidMoFo said: How are snaps/rushing attempts/targets going to shake out this season for the running back room? After the draft and prior to camp, my guess was that Swift would be the primary back early in games due to his skill set of being a capable between the tackles runner and receiving ability (even though we haven’t used the rbs in the passing game too much). Swift also has a big play ability from anywhere on the field, a nice weapon that can make plays early in games. I thought Penny could be the grinder late in games to eat the clock and keep the chains moving behind our o-line. Gainwell, who played great down the stretch last season, would still be involved as a change of pace and specialty situation player for goal line and 2-minute drill. Boston Scott would start and get every snap against the giants, but limited otherwise. Trey Sermon was on the roster bubble and Kennedy Brooks staring at the practice squad. Now after a couple weeks of training camp and one preseason game… I think it’s changed a little bit. Gainwell didn’t play the preseason game, are they saving his reps with the intention of him being the lead early in games? Swift looked good in his opportunities. Penny played well into the game even with the 3rd teamers, and was fair, but obviously the coaches believe he needs to show more. Sermon played fair as well. Brooks is still looking at the practice squad. Is this the coaching staff signaling to Swift and Penny that they are going to "win” their role here or is Gainwell locked in as the top dog for now? If we can't read who the coaching staff is leaning toward, the coaching staff is doing its job properly. Do not forget that Andy Reid pretty much kept BWest under bubble wrap for the entire preseason - so I don't think we can read too much into the failure to play a player during a preseason game.
August 17, 20232 yr I know there will be a rotation, but I’d be shocked if Swift doesn’t lead the RBS in touches and I don’t expect it to be that close.
August 19, 20232 yr My guess... Gainwell starts, but Swift takes over. Unless we have playoff Gainwell all season.
August 20, 20232 yr I get a 2003 vibe from these 3. 2465 total yards and 27 TDs from Duce, Buckhalter, and Westbrook
August 21, 20232 yr Didn’t love how Gainwell was taken down by one defensive back in the end zone. You at least need to find a way to get back to the LOS and fight for one yard. Granted it was the backups out there, but if he’s the number one back then he has to find a way to make that guy miss or to break that tackle.
August 21, 20232 yr On 8/16/2023 at 9:47 AM, hukdonfoniks said: They brought in Swift and Penny for a reason. They may like Scott and Gainwell and Sermon just fine, but there was nothing stopping them from rolling with those three. Swift and Penny are the guys. Gainwell's done absolutely nothing to make you think he won't be the 3rd. Keeping Scott would be a luxury they can't afford. Not with all the CB and DL depth it looks like we have. Getting a majority of the postseason touches last year demonstrates what they think of Gainwell. Scott's contract shows what he means to them. Penny was a safe, cheap signing at the time he was brought in. The draft provided the Eagles a chance to get Swift, a player they really liked. They like Sermon too. There is no way a team that likes to run is going to go into the season with only 3 RBs --- especially when two of them have struggled with injuries.
August 21, 20232 yr I think it is likely a safe assumption we go 4 on the final 53 at RB. Gut feeling says Swift, Gainwell, Penny, and Scott are those 4 and they try to get Sermon to the PS that can be called up as needed (should one of the top 4 deal with injury issues).
August 21, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, time2rock said: I think it is likely a safe assumption we go 4 on the final 53 at RB. Gut feeling says Swift, Gainwell, Penny, and Scott are those 4 and they try to get Sermon to the PS that can be called up as needed (should one of the top 4 deal with injury issues). Agreed RB isn't one of those positions you stash young guys on 53. Quite frankly if they aren't ready to contribute on 53 in yr 3 in league then what are you waiting on.
August 21, 20232 yr On 8/21/2023 at 11:11 AM, pgcd3 said: Agreed RB isn't one of those positions you stash young guys on 53. Quite frankly if they aren't ready to contribute on 53 in yr 3 in league then what are you waiting on. They did that last year with Sermon (guessing they needed to add him to the 53 since they claimed him off waivers). But strange that he barely saw the field. Thought they were holding on to him expecting him to contribute this year but then they trade for Swift and sign Penny. Perhaps the latter 2 moves were simply nothing more than taking advantage of opportunities that present themselves and the thought that it is better to have extra options from which to choose. Anyway, he really hasn't done much to make you think he needs to be on this roster.
August 21, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, brkmsn said: Getting a majority of the postseason touches last year demonstrates what they think of Gainwell. Scott's contract shows what he means to them. Penny was a safe, cheap signing at the time he was brought in. The draft provided the Eagles a chance to get Swift, a player they really liked. They like Sermon too. There is no way a team that likes to run is going to go into the season with only 3 RBs --- especially when two of them have struggled with injuries. They've got a lot of numbers at corner to worry about. Slay/Bradberry/Maddox/Jobe/Ringo are your locks now but there's only one slot corner in there. Maybe Jobe could be the backup slot option now but then you're counting on Ringo to be a primary backup. Do they keep another boundary corner in Ricks? Is Goodrich the backup slot CB now? Does Howie have to make a move to bring in a vet there? CB is a spot we almost have to carry six at. And then you have the numbers on the defensive line. After Sweat/Graham/Barnett who's your DE depth? How do you make room for Ojomo at DT behind Carter/Davis/Cox/Williams/Tuipulotu? For a team who prioritizes defensive line depth they're not going to go light there. Scott does what Swift and Gainwell does and they're both locks. Sermon is a north/south runner like Penny, but doesn't have Penny's upside. If it comes down to Scott or Sermon vs. any of the younger corners or rushers, the defense is going to win out. RB is the most replaceable position in the game and none of the contracts our RB's have now are so large that they can't be cut. They can stash a RB on the practice squad in case of an injury.
August 21, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, hukdonfoniks said: They've got a lot of numbers at corner to worry about. Slay/Bradberry/Maddox/Jobe/Ringo are your locks now but there's only one slot corner in there. Maybe Jobe could be the backup slot option now but then you're counting on Ringo to be a primary backup. Do they keep another boundary corner in Ricks? Is Goodrich the backup slot CB now? Does Howie have to make a move to bring in a vet there? CB is a spot we almost have to carry six at. And then you have the numbers on the defensive line. After Sweat/Graham/Barnett who's your DE depth? How do you make room for Ojomo at DT behind Carter/Davis/Cox/Williams/Tuipulotu? For a team who prioritizes defensive line depth they're not going to go light there. Scott does what Swift and Gainwell does and they're both locks. Sermon is a north/south runner like Penny, but doesn't have Penny's upside. If it comes down to Scott or Sermon vs. any of the younger corners or rushers, the defense is going to win out. RB is the most replaceable position in the game and none of the contracts our RB's have now are so large that they can't be cut. They can stash a RB on the practice squad in case of an injury. Scott is not the receiver that Swift is but I agree with everything else. Swift, Penny, Gainwell, Scott will be the backs that stick around. Confused about Sermon. Not sure why he didn't get more burn last year. He has an ankle injury so maybe the stash him.
August 21, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, judunno said: Scott is not the receiver that Swift is but I agree with everything else. Swift, Penny, Gainwell, Scott will be the backs that stick around. Confused about Sermon. Not sure why he didn't get more burn last year. He has an ankle injury so maybe the stash him. This coaching staff puts a lot of stock in blocking ability. If you aren't getting the ball, you had better be blocking someone. I don't know enough about Sermon to know how well he blocks overall, but we did see him botch a blitz pickup in the last game that resulted in a sack. If he isn't considered a reliable blocker by the coaches, that could be why he was usually inactive.
August 22, 20232 yr I wouldn't read too much into preseason usage of RB's - especially with this coaching staff. This is a staff that places more importance on scrimmages that games in the preseason. That being said, I would expect the coaching staff to heavily rotate the running backs and favor either the hot hand or the RB who is best equipped to face the team the Eagles are playing that week.
August 22, 20232 yr On 8/16/2023 at 11:45 AM, Mat said: Sermon is the one they cut. They can use Scott as a KR so he hangs around for locker room and ST purposes Back to the practice squad most likely
August 22, 20232 yr On 8/16/2023 at 12:47 PM, hukdonfoniks said: They brought in Swift and Penny for a reason. They may like Scott and Gainwell and Sermon just fine, but there was nothing stopping them from rolling with those three. Swift and Penny are the guys. Gainwell's done absolutely nothing to make you think he won't be the 3rd. Keeping Scott would be a luxury they can't afford. Not with all the CB and DL depth it looks like we have. Gainwell is a favorite of the coaching staff and balled out during the playoffs. He'll get plenty of touches. I don't see this team ranking its RB's by 1, 2 and 3.
August 22, 20232 yr Honestly the continuing discussions about Sermon baffle me, he's coming up on his third season in the league, he was cut by the team that drafted him in favour of a player they drafted later, we claimed him and didn't use him last year and his pre season has been ordinary, I don't see the point of stashing him on the Practise squad if he can't beat out Boston Scott for a roster slot as a 3rd change of pace guy, he's not even a Josh Adams level NFL talent at this point. I'd rather they scouted what falls out at final roster cuts than giving Sermon another year to prove he hasn't got the juice he had in college any more.
August 30, 20232 yr On 8/21/2023 at 9:41 PM, Procus said: Gainwell is a favorite of the coaching staff and balled out during the playoffs. He'll get plenty of touches. I don't see this team ranking its RB's by 1, 2 and 3. I agree that Gainwell is probably the favorite here, but I think what will happen is they end up going with the hot hand. Overall it seems to me like Swift is the best back of the group as long as he can stay healthy. Penny will probably be the closer in games just moving the pile forward provided (once again) he can stay healthy.
August 30, 20232 yr On 8/19/2023 at 9:21 PM, SkippyX said: I get a 2003 vibe from these 3. 2465 total yards and 27 TDs from Duce, Buckhalter, and Westbrook The three headed Monster!!!! ohhhh yeahhhh
August 30, 20232 yr On 8/22/2023 at 5:27 AM, Cochis_Calhoun said: Honestly the continuing discussions about Sermon baffle me, he's coming up on his third season in the league, he was cut by the team that drafted him in favour of a player they drafted later, we claimed him and didn't use him last year and his pre season has been ordinary, I don't see the point of stashing him on the Practise squad if he can't beat out Boston Scott for a roster slot as a 3rd change of pace guy, he's not even a Josh Adams level NFL talent at this point. I'd rather they scouted what falls out at final roster cuts than giving Sermon another year to prove he hasn't got the juice he had in college any more. But he has locs so....
September 1, 20232 yr Penny, if healthy, will come up big for us this years. That big pounder will be highly useful down the stretch. Mark my word. He is the most overlook back on our roster so far.
September 2, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, Dungaroo said: Penny, if healthy, will come up big for us this years. That big pounder will be highly useful down the stretch. Mark my word. He is the most overlook back on our roster so far. How are his feet?
September 7, 20232 yr https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/eagles-list-all-four-of-their-running-backs-as-co-starters-on-team-depth-chart Quote Eagles list all four of their running backs as co-starters on team depth chart As more NFL teams are viewing running backs as interchangeable, the Eagles have found an interesting way to illustrate that: All four of the running backs on their 53-player roster are listed as co-starters on the team depth chart. The Eagles’ depth chart lists one individual starter at 10 positions on offense. But at the 11th position, running back, four players are listed as starters: Kenneth Gainwell, Rashaad Penny, Boston Scott and D’Andre Swift. That’s all the running backs on the team, which apparently means all of the running backs are co-equals and any of them might be the primary ball carrier in any particular game. Last year’s leading rusher, Miles Sanders, left for the Panthers in free agency. The identity of this year’s leading rusher is a mystery, but suffice to say the Eagles think their offense can operate just fine with anyone in at running back.
September 7, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, NOTW said: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/eagles-list-all-four-of-their-running-backs-as-co-starters-on-team-depth-chart They're all going to eat... and we feature Scott vs the Giants:)
September 7, 20232 yr Just now, judunno said: They're all going to eat... and we feature Scott vs the Giants:) Might as well rest the other 3 for the Giants games.
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