2-9 in his last 11 starts. Any decent QB would relish the line and the weapons he has but still can't play consistently well. Blame the coaches all you want but this is a new offense and his always picking the wrong option on the RPO and his lack of awareness of the game is downright embarrassing. 

25 minutes ago, Krump said:

I had work, so I didn't watch the game. It looks like Hurts played bad again. I just saw the last pick he threw on FOX 29, and it was brutal. I still have coworkers and others defending his play. It's the coaches fault, the OL, etc. Everyone gets the blame but Jalen. The team has played it's best ball during the Hurts era when they took the ball out of his hands and relied on the run game. To this day, I still tell people the year Hurts got benched for Minshew he played some of the ugliest QB for an Eagles starter in my lifetime.

Obviously, you didn't watch the game and just came into the Hurts-bashing thread to look for likeminded fellowship. Your last sentence proves that you never watched Eagles games or even followed them closely as Hurts never has been "benched."

The INT at the end was on Jalen, but Jalen carried them to the lead in the 4th quarter and the play everybody is so upset about the coaches calling was a good call and executed perfectly until Barkley dropped it. That's not on the coaches, not on the O-line, not on the defense, and not on Jalen (as the throw was perfect). Barkley just had his biggest mistake of the night. All he had to do was catch it and give himself up after the 1st down marker and we win in victory formation. Everything that happened after that play should have never happened. 

I have nothing but respect for Barkley and am 100% behind him. I just understand that players aren't perfect and it just so happened that his worst play of the game happened at the most critical time. That drop is the play where the sure win slipped away. 

16 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

Hurts actually played pretty well. Too many designed runs for him, but he was careful with the football until the very end. You could, of course, argue that´s when he should be at his best given how much he´s being paid, but he had pressure right up in his grill

hurts is not really showing me any growth in his passing ability.  Maybe it's the new offense but we keep having the same concerns with him.  At some point hurts has to take accountability.  obviously he can't make Barkley catch the ball, but he holds onto the ball too much.  and I'm not sure he can effectively read the defense.  It still seems like the offense is being run around hurts and his deficiencies.   maybe I'm wrong, I hope I'm wrong but the results are glaring.  If he can run like he did last night for 17 games and the playoffs I think we could overcome these passing deficiencies but the personel really isn't set up for that.  I guess we will see.  This team is average which is the worst place to be in the NFL.  

Hurt's INT was a last second desperation play. He was not the problem. 

Real problems: 

• Huff has no defensive stats in the Box Score after two games. 
• We have no pass rush.
• Siriani didn't treat the second to the last drive as 4-down territory. 

4 minutes ago, Erie said:

Hurt's INT was a last second desperation play. He was not the problem. 

Real problems: 

• Huff has no defensive stats in the Box Score after two games. 
• We have no pass rush.
• Siriani didn't treat the second to the last drive as 4-down territory. 

So this is the type of game you expect from hurts?  no matter how you slice it hurts hasn't been good enough these last 2 games.  sure the team has other issues but we can't let the QB off the hook.  The only reason we were in this game is because hurts finally had some success again running the ball not because he was better throwing the ball.  And what the heck was up with hurts voice after the game?

2 minutes ago, DieselEagle said:

So this is the type of game you expect from hurts?  no matter how you slice it hurts hasn't been good enough these last 2 games.  sure the team has other issues but we can't let the QB off the hook.  The only reason we were in this game is because hurts finally had some success again running the ball not because he was better throwing the ball.  And what the heck was up with hurts voice after the game?

I thought Hurts earned a solid "B" for his effort last night. He put the team on his back on those running drives and willed us back into the game. 

52 minutes ago, Erie said:

I thought Hurts earned a solid "B" for his effort last night. He put the team on his back on those running drives and willed us back into the game. 

He willed us into an INT on the last drive of the game. He fails to get it done with his arm.

2 hours ago, kiwinavega said:

Hurts actually played pretty well. Too many designed runs for him, but he was careful with the football until the very end. You could, of course, argue that´s when he should be at his best given how much he´s being paid, but he had pressure right up in his grill

You have to expect pressure there, which is why you make quick throws.

Hurt's had nothing to do with any of this.. 

1. Not kicking the chip shot FG early.   

2. Not overruling that late pass to Saquon and ordering a run play late. 

3. Not going for it on 4th down after the Saquon drop. Kicking that FG was totally meaningless. 

4. Poor clock management. Running the clock out should have been the goal there to win the game.

I guess you can't teach football IQ. 

3 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Obviously, you didn't watch the game and just came into the Hurts-bashing thread to look for likeminded fellowship. Your last sentence proves that you never watched Eagles games or even followed them closely as Hurts never has been "benched."

The INT at the end was on Jalen, but Jalen carried them to the lead in the 4th quarter and the play everybody is so upset about the coaches calling was a good call and executed perfectly until Barkley dropped it. That's not on the coaches, not on the O-line, not on the defense, and not on Jalen (as the throw was perfect). Barkley just had his biggest mistake of the night. All he had to do was catch it and give himself up after the 1st down marker and we win in victory formation. Everything that happened after that play should have never happened. 

I have nothing but respect for Barkley and am 100% behind him. I just understand that players aren't perfect and it just so happened that his worst play of the game happened at the most critical time. That drop is the play where the sure win slipped away. 

The INT sucked, but he was great prior to that.

The Barkley call was going for a 1st down and they win the game, he has been amazing in his first couple of games, it was just the worst possible time for a drop. At least to the credit of Sirianni/Moore, the Colts ran a similar play last year but had their 3rd string RB in who then went on to drop the pass and have them miss the playoffs. They had their superstars in there, called a great play to give them a chance but he just couldn't convert. 

For those arguing they should have just run the ball, the Falcons still would have had enough time to go down the field, score a TD and win the game if they didn't convert running the ball. The D turned to complete crap for the last 2 minutes. 

Dude shows me time after time that he ain't so bright.

All you need to do is listen to the guy speak and you hear cliche's and dumbsheet like "keep the main thing the main thing", please, how about speaking an intelligible sentence.

He's been playing football all his life and he hasn't figured out that climbing the pocket is the ticket to big plays, no, he choses to run right 90% of the time pretty much giving him 1/4 of the field to work with, pretty damn dumb if you ask me.

He's a NFL QB that choses to look for and target his friends only, give me a break, that's recess football, find the open man for crying out loud!!

I rest my case with the 3 ints in the past 2 games, you'd be hard pressed to find dumber decisions.

Hurts had a good game, but he never should've had to go back out to lead a game winning drive.   There's no excuse for the defense allowing atl to have that go ahead TD drive.  I don't care that Barkley dropped it and that they should've just run it, the defense folded.  Sure, Hurts should've lived for another down, but he never should've been in that position to begin with.

52 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Dude shows me time after time that he ain't so bright.

All you need to do is listen to the guy speak and you hear cliche's and dumbsheet like "keep the main thing the main thing", please, how about speaking an intelligible sentence.

He's been playing football all his life and he hasn't figured out that climbing the pocket is the ticket to big plays, no, he choses to run right 90% of the time pretty much giving him 1/4 of the field to work with, pretty damn dumb if you ask me.

He's a NFL QB that choses to look for and target his friends only, give me a break, that's recess football, find the open man for crying out loud!!

I rest my case with the 3 ints in the past 2 games, you'd be hard pressed to find dumber decisions.

Definitely concerning that he is repeating mistakes.  Looking for growth from him with all the weapons on offense and instead seeing some of the same old stuff.  Really would like him to spread the ball around.  Take what the defense gives you.

1 hour ago, EagleVA said:

you'd be hard pressed to find dumber decisions.

I read your whole post. There's one. 

Hurts has to be better in the passing game.  he can't bail as much as he does.  that keeps happening and we are going nowhere because eventually all the running is going to get him injured and we'll be stuck with Pickett at QB. And I'm sorry no QB that has to wear a glove to throw the ball can be good, never.  

1 hour ago, DieselEagle said:

Hurts has to be better in the passing game.  he can't bail as much as he does.  that keeps happening and we are going nowhere because eventually all the running is going to get him injured and we'll be stuck with Pickett at QB. And I'm sorry no QB that has to wear a glove to throw the ball can be good, never.  

Running or passing can get him injured. It's part of the game. 

As much as I like Hurts his football IQ has been terrible so far this year. He still is struggling reading a defense and will always roll out right with a small hint of pressure. I don't know....

It´s so strange. I want to sit here and say he played very well apart from the turnovers. But we can´t keep having the same conversation. The INT you could argue Smitty has to undercut the DB on his route. The fumble was horrendous, just holding the ball like that was asking for trouble. But... he did play really well. Football is confusing these days. 

34 minutes ago, kiwinavega said:

It´s so strange. I want to sit here and say he played very well apart from the turnovers. But we can´t keep having the same conversation. The INT you could argue Smitty has to undercut the DB on his route. The fumble was horrendous, just holding the ball like that was asking for trouble. But... he did play really well. Football is confusing these days. 

100%! He did play well despite the turnovers. He did deliver in the big spots when we needed him to. He made things happen and he deserves credit for that. But we keep talking about all of these turnovers. We keep saying he needs to do better and be better. And if he doesn’t make those mistakes yesterday then we probably win fairly comfortably.

51 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

100%! He did play well despite the turnovers. He did deliver in the big spots when we needed him to. He made things happen and he deserves credit for that. But we keep talking about all of these turnovers. We keep saying he needs to do better and be better. And if he doesn’t make those mistakes yesterday then we probably win fairly comfortably.

Switch that pick to a couple Barkley hand offs and Jalen had a good game. Sometimes the coaches fail him.  Just sucks a 50mil qb is averaging 2 turnovers a game right now. The talent on this team is like starting this race  two steps forward, and then the turnovers and bad playcalling/time management erases it.  I believe he falls between that 8-12 range of qbs and there's zero wrong with that. Just frustrating the one thing he could always hang his hat on before was ball security is gone. 

34 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Switch that pick to a couple Barkley hand offs and Jalen had a good game. Sometimes the coaches fail him.  Just sucks a 50mil qb is averaging 2 turnovers a game right now. The talent on this team is like starting this race  two steps forward, and then the turnovers and bad playcalling/time management erases it.  I believe he falls between that 8-12 range of qbs and there's zero wrong with that. Just frustrating the one thing he could always hang his hat on before was ball security is gone. 

Oh I get that I don’t think he’s being helped at times. Like the INT yesterday I think there’s other factors at play that aren’t his fault. The fumble though absolutely is on him. And the INT at the end of the Atlanta game was on him. He needs to be better but he’s also doing some really good things. 

At this point I don’t think he’s top 8 - 12 I think he’s more in that 14 - 18 range.

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh I get that I don’t think he’s being helped at times. Like the INT yesterday I think there’s other factors at play that aren’t his fault. The fumble though absolutely is on him. And the INT at the end of the Atlanta game was on him. He needs to be better but he’s also doing some really good things. 

At this point I don’t think he’s top 8 - 12 I think he’s more in that 14 - 18 range.

That fumble gave me Wentz flashbacks. I had to walk that one off.  I have him in the 8-12 range because almost every qb is struggling right now. Feels like half the league is rookie qbs/2nd/3rd year guy,  coming back from injury/covering for injury,  or old guy hanging on for an extra year or two.  Once the dust settles, he could fall outside the top 12, but with the talent around him can play in that top 8 range too....it's what's frustrating about him. There is no consistency. 

5 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

That fumble gave me Wentz flashbacks. I had to walk that one off.  I have him in the 8-12 range because almost every qb is struggling right now. Feels like half the league is rookie qbs/2nd/3rd year guy,  coming back from injury/covering for injury,  or old guy hanging on for an extra year or two.  Once the dust settles, he could fall outside the top 12, but with the talent around him can play in that top 8 range too....it's what's frustrating about him. There is no consistency. 

You make a really good point there. Mahomes is turning the ball over a lot. Stroud threw 2 INTs yesterday. The rookies are all struggling (as you’d expect). So yeah QB play around the league right now isn’t high high level. Guys like Darnold and Carr are surprising people but will that continue? Probably not.