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2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

...But having that Einstein guy (among many others) around likely would have helped them get a bomb first.

Brain drain.

The poetic justice in the whole affair is that they held themselves as a superior race and then drove away the most capable people in Europe, who then helped defeat them. Beautiful.

10 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

There's a whole bunch of reasons, and opening a 2 front war is the most impactful. But having that Einstein guy (among many others) around likely would have helped them get a bomb first.

Einstein wasn't actually involved in the work at Los Alamos. though he did warn Roosevelt about Germany working towards an atomic bomb. I don't know how much that impacted things but it probably didn't hurt in motivating us towards developing it.

8 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Brain drain.

The poetic justice in the whole affair is that they held themselves as a superior race and then drove away the most capable people in Europe, who then helped defeat them. Beautiful.

Yes, this is absolutely true. Just technically Einstein wasn't part of the development of the bomb (though his theories and work obviously informed it greatly).

Fermi would be the name that comes to mind for me.

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

Einstein wasn't actually involved in the work at Los Alamos. though he did warn Roosevelt about Germany working towards an atomic bomb. I don't know how much that impacted things but it probably didn't hurt in motivating us towards developing it.

He's the most recognizable name. Doesn't make as much of an impact to name Fermi or Bethe.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

He's the most recognizable name. Doesn't make as much of an impact to name Fermi or Bethe.

I always think of Feynman even though he was young. The stories about him at los alamos are pretty fun lol

I get that Feynman's popularity is owed a lot by his personality, but was still one of the reasons I was drawn to physics.

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I always think of Feynman even though he was young. The stories about him at los alamos are pretty fun lol

I get that Feynman's popularity is owed a lot by his personality, but was still one of the reasons I was drawn to physics.

Probably also would have helped if the NSDAPs didn't also burn all the books those guys wrote...

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Yes, this is absolutely true. Just technically Einstein wasn't part of the development of the bomb (though his theories and work obviously informed it greatly).

Fermi would be the name that comes to mind for me.

You're right of course - but it's as much about them NOT having Einstein locked in a cave like Tony Stark to do their bidding as it was about the Allies having him.

2 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

You're right of course - but it's as much about them NOT having Einstein locked in a cave like Tony Stark to do their bidding as it was about the Allies having him.

I get the impression this hews close to some kind of fantasy for you.

29 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

There's a whole bunch of reasons, and opening a 2 front war is the most impactful. But having that Einstein guy (among many others) around likely would have helped them get a bomb first.

If Einstein stuck around he would have been murdered by the NSDAPs.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I get the impression this hews close to some kind of fantasy for you.

If I were to lock someone in a cave to do my bidding it wouldn't be Robert Downey, Jr.

I can't deny wanting said cave, though.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

If Einstein stuck around he would have been murdered by the NSDAPs.

Likely. The smarter move would have been to force him and other Jewish scientists to work for the government.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Likely. The smarter move would have been to force him and other Jewish scientists to work for the government.

The NSDAPs were into genocide, not slavery

48 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

The NSDAPs were into genocide, not slavery

Forced labor was a big part of the war effort. They worked them to death, yes, but they did both slavery and genocide.

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I always think of Feynman even though he was young. The stories about him at los alamos are pretty fun lol

I get that Feynman's popularity is owed a lot by his personality, but was still one of the reasons I was drawn to physics.

His recorded lectures at Cornell (1964ish) are fantastic. I always assigned them as an extra credit option 😀. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS3_1JNX8dEh5YcO-Y05stU0u_T9nqIlF

It's very rare to have a scientist as gifted as he was - especially a physicist - that's also able to communicate in an accessible way.

I've probably posted this before, but his response to the question about magnetism during this interview is one of my favorite vignettes of his and sort of encapsulates his ability to bring abstract concepts down to Earth in a way that doesn't use false analogies.

Weren't they recorded at Caltech?

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Weren't they recorded at Caltech?

The ones I linked to - which are the ones I've seen - were done at Cornell.

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edit: FYI his written lectures were penned at CalTech.

What's your major malfunction @Dave Moss ? furious

Want me to explain exchange particles?

Ok... you and @DrPhilly stand on a frozen pond wearing nothing but ice skates and your shame, then start throwing a medicine ball back and forth.

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I now have "naked man on ice skates" in my search history - to illustrate the conservation of energy between subatomic particles - to a very small audience that either hates my guts, has me on ignore, or tentatively tolerates me.

I REALLY need a girlfriend

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"which one am I?"

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