January 29, 20242 yr It really is striking how many Americans have perished under Biden. COVID, mass shootings, troops overseas, etc.
January 29, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: So you believe "jews" are going to move on to the rest of Europe and then the world after they are done with Gaza? inherit the earth is kinda in the slogan isn't it?
January 29, 20242 yr It seems a measured response towards terrorists in Syria will be in order. However, Iran seems to be using their proxies in the Middle East to draw US into a wider conflict. First, the Houthi attacks in the Persian Gulf disrupting shipping routes. Now it's Islamic State terrorists from Syria attacking on a US position in Jordan. What's next?
January 29, 20242 yr 45 minutes ago, Bill said: What Biden actually said: Quote we will hold all those responsible to account at a time and in a manner our choosing. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/28/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-attack-on-u-s-service-members-in-northeastern-jordan-near-the-syria-border/
January 29, 20242 yr 21 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: That’s what he said? No it’s not, not even close. Well based on the fact that IRGC funded proxies have been launching attacks on Americans the region for months now and there hasn’t been a retaliatory response, I’m just gonna go ahead and let Biden’s actions speak. We’ve already had American casualties from these attacks, and now we’ve got a lot more American casualties, including three KIA. Given that nothing was done in response to the casualties before, I’m not exactly holding my breath that the RandCo Obama holdover foreign policy team in the current administration will do anything of substance to alleviate the issue.
January 29, 20242 yr Author 2 hours ago, mikemack8 said: It really is striking how many Americans have perished under Biden. COVID, mass shootings, troops overseas, etc. That's unfortunate, it really is... but my 401k is doing really well. He also promised to put liberals on the supreme court, so I have to vote for him.
January 29, 20242 yr 6 hours ago, Gannan said: Iran has gone too far. Enough is enough. It's time for direct strikes against the Iranian regime. Ya think maybe it was a bad idea to release billions of dollars in frozen assets to this rogue regime - money that belongs to the Iranian people?
January 29, 20242 yr This just doesn’t sound right. We can’t ID if it’s our drone or not ? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drone-iran-proxy-evaded-us-defenses-mistaken-us-drone-official
January 29, 20242 yr 15 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: This just doesn’t sound right. We can’t ID if it’s our drone or not ? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drone-iran-proxy-evaded-us-defenses-mistaken-us-drone-official Either they're lying to hide incompetence (human or tech), which is concerning, or they're telling the truth, implying that Iran cracked and spoofed our IFF squawk codes, which is 1000x more concerning.
January 29, 20242 yr 12 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: This just doesn’t sound right. We can’t ID if it’s our drone or not ? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drone-iran-proxy-evaded-us-defenses-mistaken-us-drone-official non-paywalled version, seems like it was mostly the former, human incompetence that assumed it was our drone because of another drone in the area returning to base https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/preliminary-probe-suggests-drone-that-killed-troops-in-jordan-was-confused-with-a-returning-us-drone/
January 29, 20242 yr 3 hours ago, dawkins4prez said: inherit the earth is kinda in the slogan isn't it? no?
January 29, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: non-paywalled version, seems like it was mostly the former, human incompetence that assumed it was our drone because of another drone in the area returning to base Again shouldn’t our drone have a transponder or something identifying as one of ours ? If it did, it was a total FU not to engage.
January 29, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Again shouldn’t our drone have a transponder or something identifying as one of ours ? If it did, it was a total FU not to engage. They do but sounds like the iranian drone went silent and either tailed (or was in close proximity to) another drone in the area which was squawking the right IFF codes so the humans assumed they were the same drone. i.e. Operator error.
January 29, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, Talkingbirds said: This just doesn’t sound right. We can’t ID if it’s our drone or not ? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drone-iran-proxy-evaded-us-defenses-mistaken-us-drone-official Getting a positive ID on an entity BVR is the most difficult thing to do before launching a weapon; history is full of cases of fratricide due to bad IDs. In the case of these drones, many of them are so small and cheap that they don't carry an IFF transponder, so deconfliction is entirely procedural, and the training and inclination of most weapon system operators is to hold fire if there is a doubt.
January 29, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, Bill said: Well based on the fact that IRGC funded proxies have been launching attacks on Americans the region for months now and there hasn’t been a retaliatory response, I’m just gonna go ahead and let Biden’s actions speak. We’ve already had American casualties from these attacks, and now we’ve got a lot more American casualties, including three KIA. Given that nothing was done in response to the casualties before, I’m not exactly holding my breath that the RandCo Obama holdover foreign policy team in the current administration will do anything of substance to alleviate the issue. Iranian backed militants have been attacking and killing American troops in the ME for 20+ years. And let’s not forget that the current admin as ordered strikes against Iranian backed terrorists on at least two occasion, the last of which was last month. There is a fine line between retaliating as a deterrent and escalating into all out war. I don’t have a problem with taking time to weigh our options and not making a knee jerk response.
January 29, 20242 yr Author Its not like we bombed Afghanistan within 24 hours of 9-11. They need to weigh their options.
January 30, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: Iranian backed militants have been attacking and killing American troops in the ME for 20+ years. And let’s not forget that the current admin as ordered strikes against Iranian backed terrorists on at least two occasion, the last of which was last month. There is a fine line between retaliating as a deterrent and escalating into all out war. I don’t have a problem with taking time to weigh our options and not making a knee jerk response. It’s taken them three months to do anything at all. Troops have been under fire and taking casualties since October and so far the response hasn’t even been token. You can’t escalate when the other guy already did. There’s a difference between walking away from a brewing fight and having analysis paralysis while the other guy has been landing punches. 1 hour ago, Gannan said: Its not like we bombed Afghanistan within 24 hours of 9-11. They need to weigh their options. That’s because we were negotiating with the Taliban for a few weeks. There’s not much room here for negotiation.
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