4 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Does Siri coach the defense? Siri didn't drop that red zone pass either. It's only 2 games and fans are all end of the world. If this team is still stinking it up after 8-10 games, I'll understand the whining. Right now it's too early to call anything.

It’s not two games. It’s the Philosophy thay lost us a Super Bowl. The same one that had us lost 6/7 last season, and the same one that makes us play down to our opponents constantly. 

16 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

I see a defense ANYONE can beat. How many "bend but don't break" D coords have we had the last 10 years, 4 or 5? And they all sucked. Where is someone who who has a tough, REAL defensive scheme? Why do the Eagles repeat this scheme, over, and over, and over again? THAT is insanity. They won't win very much with Fangio's D. Also, all these #1 picks on the D line are looking like BUSTS. Jordan Davis is a big pssy. Never has done anything in the NFL. Carter is looking the same. Georgia hype machine spits them out.

Most of their chunk runs were to the boundary for a reason. 
 

no one is going to look like a good pass rusher when the WRs aren’t knocked out of their timings with the QB.

I’m blaming the philosophy over the players 10/10 times here. We’ve been figured out and Siriani has refused to change anything 

2 hours ago, MF POON said:

Everyone's overreacting right now. It's a bad/tough loss for sure, but it's only been 2 games

Problem is we're seeing a trend from Hurts that's not good, dude plays hero ball too often, there was no need for a 40 yard pass, 15 yards and they would have been well in range for a game winning field goal.......dude's situational awareness is lacking bigtime, it's like he doesn't think at all. 

10 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Most of their chunk runs were to the boundary for a reason. 
 

no one is going to look like a good pass rusher when the WRs aren’t knocked out of their timings with the QB.

I’m blaming the philosophy over the players 10/10 times here. We’ve been figured out and Siriani has refused to change anything 

Siri and Fangio deserve some blame, but they can't tackle for these guys.

8 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

Siri and Fangio deserve some blame, but they can't tackle for these guys.

Aren’t they the leaders of how we’re supposed to play? 

If there are consistent themes through multiple players - I’m going for the leadership and coaching styles not getting their culture into the game. It’s been proven this is a consistency at this point. They’ve made it to the NFL - they can tackle - the positions they’re put in often has them chasing from bad angels. The defense doesn’t dictate or force any will on the offense. It’s passive and thus the players are a step behind. When a tackler is a step behind, they resort to arm tackles. 

2 hours ago, GoEagles614 said:

No pass rush with a DC who refuses to let his DBs play physical with WRs. A defensive scheme that allows huge holes in the run with no edge support due to CBs and safeties constantly being 10+ yards away from the LoS. No coverage diversity, no creative disguised blitzes. Just sitting back and letting the QB/WR do whatever they want and watching your defense get gashed by outside runs. This was last year’s cardinals game all over again lol. Have a chance to make a statement in a week your rivals lose and you collapse  

An offense who has almost zero creativity compared to some of the top offenses in the league - with the most offensive talent by far. 

 

Same mentality and same flaws as last year. Siri has to go. 

Brilliantly said.....its not the same mentality and flaws as last year...its at least ten years now of the same old defense and bend but dont break philosophy....so no matter who the DC is...the strategy remains the same....I hope people see now that its not the coaches...its the entire offensive and defensive philosophy.....

49 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

I see a defense ANYONE can beat. How many "bend but don't break" D coords have we had the last 10 years, 4 or 5? And they all sucked. Where is someone who who has a tough, REAL defensive scheme? Why do the Eagles repeat this scheme, over, and over, and over again? THAT is insanity. They won't win very much with Fangio's D. Also, all these #1 picks on the D line are looking like BUSTS. Jordan Davis is a big pssy. Never has done anything in the NFL. Carter is looking the same. Georgia hype machine spits them out.

I have been saying the exact same thing for awhile now....its not the DC its the same philosophy and strategy and all they do year after year is appease the fans with switching them out knowing damn well they aren't going to change a thing.....

Yeesh, bad loss.

Now they will have to make that up by winning a game that should be an L.

22 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Aren’t they the leaders of how we’re supposed to play? 

If there are consistent themes through multiple players - I’m going for the leadership and coaching styles not getting their culture into the game. It’s been proven this is a consistency at this point. They’ve made it to the NFL - they can tackle - the positions they’re put in often has them chasing from bad angels. The defense doesn’t dictate or force any will on the offense. It’s passive and thus the players are a step behind. When a tackler is a step behind, they resort to arm tackles. 

Bam! And when you have an attacking D, you rattle the offense into mistakes and turnovers all the time. Attacking defenses are exciting to watch, too. Eagles need to change this lame D philosophy of the last 10 years, and find an exciting new D coord, who has an attacking D. 

11 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Other than not kick the FG early please tell me what he did wrong

Sloppy play, penalties, and the team not properly prepared are all on the coach. This team has no discipline. All coaching. If anyone has been watching the NFL for at least a few years they should know what a badly coached team looks like. This is a badly coached team. 

DL could not hold Falcon's RBs, no pressure on Cousin, only 1 sack.  Not good enough!

LB and DB do not tackle well.  Getting to the ball is one thing, but need to stop the ball carriers.

The new DC is supposed to the defense guru.  Where is his magic? 

The incomplete pass to Barkley was a killer.  Stopping the clock was the key problem.  Running the ball, even if can't get to the 1st Down, will still has the clock running.  Too smart call ends up hurting the team. 

26 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Sloppy play, penalties, and the team not properly prepared are all on the coach. This team has no discipline. All coaching. If anyone has been watching the NFL for at least a few years they should know what a badly coached team looks like. This is a badly coached team. 

Yeah they’re not prepped, but the playcalling has been suspect. Like when ATL started the last drive we should not have been that far back with the two deep. Worst case they get a quick score and you have time to drive back. Best case they can’t get the 10-15 yd gains they were. 

Still living on this every game down to the wire type of play. Feels like last season when we won a lot of these games early and completely fell apart late. If the Eagles want people to stop bringing up last season then stop trying so hard to look like last season.

Here's 2 things I saw concerning the INT, 1) there was pass interference against the Falcons, when Smith broke to the sideline the DB pushed him in the back forcing his break to the sideline to be further up than he wanted it.  2) Smith should have try to make a play in the ball once he knew it wat thrown, had he did chances are the pass would have been incomplete or possible interference against the S.

Still, forget about the hero ball and get in position to kick the game winning FG.

8 hours ago, rrfierce said:

it looks identical to what we saw last season. We've had 3 DC's in the last 12 months and they all look as bad as each other.

The worrying thing is that Fangio's not gonna change. I can't see how anyone can be happy with that performance, but you just know we'll see exactly the same thing week after week.

Its like a worse version of what Gannon ran. Zone with no pass rush is game set match

3 hours ago, Bill said:

Yeah they’re not prepped, but the playcalling has been suspect. Like when ATL started the last drive we should not have been that far back with the two deep. Worst case they get a quick score and you have time to drive back. Best case they can’t get the 10-15 yd gains they were. 

It’s crazy how they play so far back to prevent from giving up big plays while giving up massive yards. It’s also time to admit that Blankenship can’t tackle or cover. 

19 hours ago, GreenReaper said:

Doesn't matter if they take the FG does it? 

could have missed a gimmy, just like the gimmy catch

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Still living on this every game down to the wire type of play. Feels like last season when we won a lot of these games early and completely fell apart late. If the Eagles want people to stop being up last season then stop trying so hard to look like last season.

Eagles have no coaches that can design a game to blow the other team out. On offense They are playing to their mediocrity, even though they have some superior offensive line strength. Why would you throw 5 passes and out to start the game.??.? This is insane. Smells like Siriani had his hands in the game design. 
On the defense I am greatly disappointed in the softness that Vic called for. To allow a team to march to your end zone in several plays is a complete collapse.

sure feels like the repeat of last year.  The team may gel over time….but this team is not going to Superbowl. Too many problems to fix.

Jim Schwartz got fired for this same bs. I woke up today more mad than last night 

3 hours ago, Traveler Vic said:

Eagles have no coaches that can design a game to blow the other team out. On offense They are playing to their mediocrity, even though they have some superior offensive line strength. Why would you throw 5 passes and out to start the game.??.? This is insane. Smells like Siriani had his hands in the game design. 
On the defense I am greatly disappointed in the softness that Vic called for. To allow a team to march to your end zone in several plays is a complete collapse.

sure feels like the repeat of last year.  The team may gel over time….but this team is not going to Superbowl. Too many problems to fix.

This offense feels just like Sirianni’s offense with occasional motion. It’s nothing like what you see Sanfran do or some of these other teams. One guy moves and there’s another WR screen. Fangio is just the guy who gave us Gannon. Same philosophy and this guy is nothing like Jim Johnson so people need to quit that comparison right now. So what happens if this team implodes? Siri gets fired a year too late and one more year of Hurts with a new consecutive coordinator. 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

This offense feels just like Sirianni’s offense with occasional motion. It’s nothing like what you see Sanfran do or some of these other teams. One guy moves and there’s another WR screen. Fangio is just the guy who gave us Gannon. Same philosophy and this guy is nothing like Jim Johnson so people need to quit that comparison right now. So what happens if this team implodes? Siri gets fired a year too late and one more year of Hurts with a new consecutive coordinator. 

After reading your reply..I agree completely. But it hurts to hear the truth.  Another waisted  year  upcoming. I wish the owner would  give Howie  permission  to trade Siri,  one of the winningest coaches in Eagles history..... to another team, for a  bag of popcorn.

On 9/16/2024 at 11:15 PM, Columbus Eagle said:

That was a great play that should have sealed the game. That’s 100% of Saquon. crap happens on a play at times, but the D offered no resistance at the end. Pathetic. 

Dude, Saquon was averaging 4.3 ypc that game, and was sometimes getting 8-9 yds on his rushes. You hand it off to Saquon, he either gets the TD, or he gets enough for the 1st down, meaning that if not for a potential TD, if Saquon gets the 1st down, all Hurts has to do is kneel the ball down on every down, and it's game over. Saquon only gets a very small smidgen of the blame here, and albeit Hurts shares some blame, it would've never had gotten to the point where Hurts has to force his throw to Devonta, which got picked off by Jessie Bates.

Hand the ball to Saquon, he rushes for either a TD or a 1st down, at the very least, and the OC and Sirianni elect to pass instead, which stops the clock due to it being an incompletion. It's on Moore and Sirianni, as well as Fangio, who's defense was practically nonexistent, especially in ATL's final drive, and made Cousins look like an All-Pro QB with some time left in the game (1:39).

5 minutes ago, wanderer34 said:

and albeit Hurts shares some blame, it would've never had gotten to the point where Hurts has to force his throw to Devonta, which got picked off by Jessie Bates.

That game was lost the second Atlanta scored. That secondary is too good to need to be pushing the ball down field. I’m not excusing Hurts it was a bad read and he didn’t need to force it that much but as you say it shouldn’t have gotten to that point. There was our previous offensive drive where we had a chance to ice the game and then the defense shouldn’t have let them score so easily.

20 hours ago, kiwinavega said:

There was nothing wrong with the play call. Barkley had tons of space and Jalen put the ball exactly where it needed to be. 

Only thing wrong with that play was that once Saquon dropped the ball, it stopped the clock. Had Saquon ran the ball, regardless of how many yards he gets, the game clock continues to run. It was a bad decision not to run from Moore and Sirianni and take more precious time off the clock.

29 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That game was lost the second Atlanta scored. That secondary is too good to need to be pushing the ball down field. I’m not excusing Hurts it was a bad read and he didn’t need to force it that much but as you say it shouldn’t have gotten to that point. There was our previous offensive drive where we had a chance to ice the game and then the defense shouldn’t have let them score so easily.

And once again, the OC and Sirianni should've called for a run, regardless of how many yards Saquon would've gained due to the game clock. The Eagles were playing checkers when they should've been playing chess and focusing on the game clock and notching another hard earned win as opposed to risking it all on a dropped pass. It's on Moore and Sirianni, not Saquon!