20 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Even if losses started before the pre-funding of pensions, that doesn't mean that it wasn't the pre-funding of pensions that ultimately wrecked its financial situation beyond contol. Yes, it was already in financial straits, but the pre-funding legislation intentionally exacerbated it.

Also, it's funny that we talk about things like USPS in terms of profitability. It's the United States Postal Service. Services don't make money; they cost money. Why don't we talk about the military in the same terms? It's a public service. Why aren't we decrying the "losses" to the Pentagon over the past 20 years that pale in comparison to those of USPS?

Shocking that some people have so much trouble realizing this.

No change whatsoever. Must be all of that white privilege that keeps my bills showing up on time every month.

1 minute ago, lynched1 said:

No change whatsoever. Must be all of that white privilege that keeps my bills showing up on time every month.

I don't know where you live but that's most definitely not the case around here. Letter mail showed up in offices 10 hours late yesterday. 

9 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

No change whatsoever. Must be all of that white privilege that keeps my bills showing up on time every month.

Order a palate of live animals and get back to us.

Just now, Green Dog said:

Order a palate of live animals and get back to us.

Why would I?

Secondly why would anyone trust that to the USPS?

Other than the fact that they've been doing it for over 100 years? Don't know.

2 minutes ago, L.E said:

Other than the fact that they've been doing it for over 100 years? Don't know.

And still haven't managed to perfect the system. Go figure.

7 hours ago, lynched1 said:

And still haven't managed to perfect the system. Go figure.

It was working fine for a century until the make believe businessman got involved. But anything Trump touches fails so this was to be expected.

17 hours ago, L.E said:

It was working fine for a century until the make believe businessman got involved. But anything Trump touches fails so this was to be expected.

 Yup. Working just fine.....😂

The main problem with the post office is how far they are behind on technology compared to FedEx and UPS.  They are behind because they don’t have enough cash to make the needed upgrades.  However, you can’t just turn a service like the post office into a corporation that makes decisions just based on its bottom line.  The first thing the post office would do is cut its expensive rural routes.

7 hours ago, lynched1 said:

 Yup. Working just fine.....😂

How wasn't it "working just fine" for the years prior to the TV business man getting involved?

On 8/25/2020 at 9:22 PM, Green Dog said:

Shocking that some people have so much trouble realizing this.

Maybe because its wholly inaccurate.  The USPS has positioned itself for years as a for profit organization.  

On 8/27/2020 at 7:06 AM, L.E said:

How wasn't it "working just fine" for the years prior to the TV business man getting involved?

Uhhh, it was grotesquely in debt and operating in the red which was starving it of technological upgrades, needed process changes and service improvements.  Like all organizations with government influence the 7 unions that represent USPS employees demanded (and got) unrealistic pension plans for their employees which are completely unsustainable.  It should be disbanded or outsourced to a 3rd party. 

2 hours ago, The Norseman said:

Maybe because its wholly inaccurate.  The USPS has positioned itself for years as a for profit organization.  

USPS has positioned itself as self-funded, not as for-profit.

It does not receive appropriations from Congress to find its operations.

However it also has to work within the regulatory framework provided by Congress, and has been lobbying for years for reform as its revenue has been impacted by paperless processes. Some of this regulatory burden relates to a requirement for pension pre-funding, though that does not make the numbers fully add up (though it'd be a big help).

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

USPS has positioned itself as self-funded, not as for-profit.

It does not receive appropriations from Congress to find its operations.

However it also has to work within the regulatory framework provided by Congress, and has been lobbying for years for reform as its revenue has been impacted by paperless processes. Some of this regulatory burden relates to a requirement for pension pre-funding, though that does not make the numbers fully add up (though it'd be a big help).

You act as if self funded and for profit are two different things.  Either way, they need to be breaking even to viably stay in business.  And if you're suggesting that the Postal Services financial problems are primarily due to anything other than the absurd pension and healthcare agreements they have made with their unions then you have no idea what you're talking about. 

Story hasn’t gone away 

 

1 hour ago, Smokesdawg said:

Story hasn’t gone away 

 

More proof that the USPS doesn't work.  Time to privatize it once and for all. 

 

Package tracked to "dumped in parking lot”

Just got a mail in ballot application for my ex wife who hasn't lived here in 4 years.  She got one at her house too.  Yea, this mail in voting thing is going to be airtight  

38 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Just got a mail in ballot application for my ex wife who hasn't lived here in 4 years.  She got one at her house too.  Yea, this mail in voting thing is going to be airtight  

You do know that applying twice for a mail in ballot is different than actually voting twice, right?

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You do know that applying twice for a mail in ballot is different than actually voting twice, right?

Of course.  It's just an example of how screwed up the voter rolls are in many of these states.  We don't have universal vote by mail here (yet).  But if we did, this would have been a ballot, not an application for one. 

3 hours ago, The Norseman said:

Just got a mail in ballot application for my ex wife who hasn't lived here in 4 years.  She got one at her house too.  Yea, this mail in voting thing is going to be airtight  

Its not even remotely the same.

But go ahead, do an experiment and vote using both. Let us know what happens lol.

On 9/7/2020 at 9:12 AM, The Norseman said:

More proof that the USPS doesn't work.  Time to privatize it once and for all. 

Sure fine, cool.  But can we hold off on a major transition like that until after a pandemic election that will depend on mail votes?  Until the election shouldn't we be pumping MORE money in there to patch up what we got until that's over?

 

And most of all, shouldn't the f'ing job of our government in this situation be reassuring us that they are doing everything inn their power to shore up mail voting as best they can?

On 9/16/2020 at 6:26 PM, dawkins4prez said:

Sure fine, cool.  But can we hold off on a major transition like that until after a pandemic election that will depend on mail votes?  Until the election shouldn't we be pumping MORE money in there to patch up what we got until that's over?

 

And most of all, shouldn't the f'ing job of our government in this situation be reassuring us that they are doing everything inn their power to shore up mail voting as best they can?

If you were in your 70s and thought NY was going to try to lock you up if you lost the election and were no longer POTUS, wouldn't you try ever trick you could think of you prevent that? What does he have to lose?