August 11, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, Bill said: Obviously you’ve never worked logistics in any capacity. USPS is actually not tax payer funded. And they have the best last mile operation out of everyone, and given the increase in parcels that actually puts them ahead of the curve, not outdated. FedEx Express handles the logistics for them on priority mail and first class mail between their sort centers. So if you have a problem with your service from USPS then you also have a problem with FedEx Express. Also I can speak from experience when I say that they treat their commercial accounts great. The reason why their finances are in the toilet is that FedEx lobbied Congress to mandate that USPS has to fund their pension obligations on the front end. au contraire, i've handled international logistics for biological samples, etc. far more complicated and its handled best by private companies even with the govt paperwork and regulations.
August 11, 20205 yr USPS delivers 14x the number of parcels that UPS and FedEx combined do on a daily basis. Whether or not much of that is junk mail is not germane to the question of efficiency and logistical ability. They route and deliver a massive number of individuals parcels on a daily basis. They may not handle specialized niche cases of delivering biological samples as well as some private services, but they operate at a complexity of scale niche vendors cannot possibly meet.
August 11, 20205 yr whether its junk is completely germain because your entire argument rests on scale/efficiency.
August 11, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: whether its junk is completely germain because your entire argument rests on scale/efficiency. Are they routing the mail? Are they getting it from A to B? Measuring logistically capability has little to do with what they're delivering. Their logistical capability is evident in the volume of parcels they're able to deliver in a timely and accurate manner. which is an order of magnitude more than FedEx + UPS. You're trying to lay claim to "working in logistics" because you used a parcel service to deliver biological samples, which is a totally specialized example to begin with. Far less germane than recognizing that the USPS operates on a completely different level from private enterprise when it comes to handling mail. If you have an issue with junk mail (who doesn't?) that's a valid separate argument, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the USPS is getting the mail from A to B.
August 11, 20205 yr capability is irrelevant - cost is what matters and their fixed costs are enormous. efficiency is the ratio of service to cost, not capacity
August 11, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: no, the obligations bankrupted them Yeah, I'm sure pre-funding decades of pensions has nothing to do with its insolvency.
August 11, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Yeah, I'm sure pre-funding decades of pensions has nothing to do with its insolvency. nope https://247wallst.com/services/2020/08/08/the-us-postal-service-has-too-many-employees/ The COVID-19 pandemic had little effect on the revenue the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) reported for the most recent quarter. However, the agency did lose $2.2 billion. For the quarter, revenue was $17.6 billion, up by $547 million from that quarter in the year before. Expenses, however, rose as well. They were $19.8 billion, which was up by $477 million. The USPS’s loss in the year-ago quarter was $2.3 billion.
August 11, 20205 yr https://reason.org/commentary/reforming-the-postal-services-pension-and-retiree-health-care-benefit-systems/#:~:text=In absolute numbers%2C USPS faces %2450 billion in,health care. By Jen Sidorova. December 30%2C 2019. The USPS Fairness Act (H.R. 2382), the first of two USPS health plan bills under consideration in Congress, would reverse a reform made in 2006 by removing the requirement to pre-fund health care benefits. Before 2006, health benefit premiums were simply paid when they were due. However, after discovering that health benefits are deeply in the red, Congress decided to use pension savings for health benefit funding and created PSRHBF with the intention to pre-fund all future health benefits and avoid fluctuations in the cost of health care funding. Unfortunately, the USPS retiree health reform coincided with the decline in the agency’s revenue. Since 2007, USPS has lost over $69 billion. As a result, the USPS hasn’t contributed to its health fund since 2012, according to its latest financial statement. Together with amortization payments (debt service payments that accrue when liabilities are left underfunded), the total missed payments amounted to $47 billion as of 2019.
August 11, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: capability is irrelevant - cost is what matters and their fixed costs are enormous. efficiency is the ratio of service to cost, not capacity now you're moving goalposts from efficiency in logistics to efficiency as a business enterprise. the USPS is not a business enterprise. it's a public service that generates revenue, but also may need tax subsidies as things change (such as people paying online vs. using first class stamps), and also requires a literal act of congress to raise its rates.
August 11, 20205 yr not thats what efficiency is - they have been losing money for ages, so they are by definition not efficient. because they arent even solvent.
August 11, 20205 yr If there's anyone qualified to try to strengthen the USPS, it's a guy who took a tiny, failing, logistics company, and turned it into a multi-national success worth hundreds of millions. Changes to a inefficient behemoth are bound to cause disruptions, and take time to bear fruit.
August 11, 20205 yr 48 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: nope https://247wallst.com/services/2020/08/08/the-us-postal-service-has-too-many-employees/ You take a very black-and-white view of these issues, but it would be reasonable to assume that it's a little bit of everything. USPS is drastically understaffed on the front lines in terms of routing, processing, and delivering mail. Where they are overstaffed is at the managerial level. There is certainly bloat due to having so many higher-ups with large salaries, pensions, and benefit packages that contribute to high overhead costs. There's a reasonable argument that management should be streamlined and costs reduced by having these people take their retirements and get off the payroll. On top of that, you have revenue issues. The price of a stamp has increased something like 20 cents in the last 25 years. They could increase postage by a quarter and USPS would still vastly cheaper than any other courier service while getting a substantial boost to revenue. Legislative chicanery has merely exacerbated these longstanding issues. So, while mismanagement is certainly a factor, politicians' dirty tricks have served to make the problems worse in an effort to ultimately sabotage the service. It's a systematic attempt to financially strangle a public service to convince the public that it is inherently bankrupt, rather than intentionally bankrupted. Quote In 2006, Congress passed a law to require the USPS to prefund 75 years worth of retiree health benefits in the span of ten years—a cost of approximately $110 billion. Although the money is intended to be set aside for future Post Office retirees, the funds are instead being diverted to help pay down the national debt. No other private enterprise or federal agency is required to prefund retiree health benefits on a comparable timetable. The mandate is responsible for all of USPS’s financial losses since 2013.https://defazio.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/defazio-authored-bill-to-help-us-postal-service-maintain-sustainability
August 11, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, The_Omega said: If there's anyone qualified to try to strengthen the USPS, it's a guy who took a tiny, failing, logistics company, and turned it into a multi-national success worth hundreds of millions. Changes to a inefficient behemoth are bound to cause disruptions, and take time to bear fruit. What improvements do you think are happening without a cash infusion?
August 11, 20205 yr With 3 months until an election and an unprecedented global pandemic that's forcing people to stay home and vote by mail, that's the absolute best time disrupt mail service.
August 11, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: au contraire, i've handled international logistics for biological samples, etc. far more complicated and its handled best by private companies even with the govt paperwork and regulations. So you’re comparing shipping things that require a UN label across international boundaries to USPS as a whole? You might want to look at the 35,000 foot view, because right now you’re about two feet off the ground.
August 12, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: i just showed you the 35000 ft view - they are so inefficient they are insolvent What about their actual operation is inefficient? They’re so good at the last mile that all of the major carriers use them to deliver.
August 12, 20205 yr ToastJenkins does not give a wet fart about people's prescriptions or checks. He does not care about people in rural areas who's routes are not profitable. He's an uncaring sack of something disgusting. The post office was self-funded and could break even if not hobbled by stupidity.
August 13, 20205 yr 21 hours ago, Bill said: What about their actual operation is inefficient? They’re so good at the last mile that all of the major carriers use them to deliver. Is the last mile the only part of the chain? Hardly they are effective there bc they arent even required to break even and they lose tons
August 13, 20205 yr 13 hours ago, Toastrel said: ToastJenkins does not give a wet fart about people's prescriptions or checks. He does not care about people in rural areas who's routes are not profitable. He's an uncaring sack of something disgusting. The post office was self-funded and could break even if not hobbled by stupidity. I dont care about the failing outliers tis true any carrier can deliver scripts and checks should be electronic anyway. The usps is a completely outdated model
August 13, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Is the last mile the only part of the chain? Hardly they are effective there bc they arent even required to break even and they lose tons They also aren't allowed to change their rates independently. Take the L.
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