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3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

he's doing it to slow down mail in voting...he already admitted it.  he talks about it every day. 

deflect the conversation elsewhere all you want but it all comes back to that. 

 

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7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

You don't do any of this in the middle of a pandemic and 3 months away from an election when your service is the way millions of Americans will vote.  

You guys need to stop pretending like the circumstances surrounding Trump trying to halt mail service right now is comparable to any other situation.  It's not.  It's anti-Democratic, UnAmerican and nakedly political.

:blink: He's been talking about how bad the Postal Service is for years.  Honestly, is there anything he does that doesn't outrage liberals?  God you people have such a thin skin. 

47 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

I've been in Operations my whole career.  My job is to seize control of broken companies and operations and get them turned around and running efficiently.  Literally the first thing you do in these situations is eliminate overtime.  You do this in order to stress test the system and see what your employees can accomplish in a standard shift.  During this period you expect services disruption.  Once done, you eliminate the employees who are executing at a low level and hire others to fill the gap that was previously being filled via overtime.  This is all standard practice in an operational recovery initiative and is in no way a "slash a burn".  

Now, all that being said, it is very likely that the costs of the running the USPS even after a restructuring won't allow the business to be profitable (or even break even).  If that's true we have two choices....raise prices or eliminate it all together and contract it to a third party.  I wouldn't be surprised if to see any of these outcomes. 

This isn't a McDonald's. It's a federally protected last mile behemoth of a delivery apparatus providing an essential service to all citizens which has no equal in the private sector. Denying it funding and winding down operations, by definition, is slash and burn. The fact that you don't understand these basic concepts makes me question whether you actually know anything about what you say you do. 

Just now, The Norseman said:

:blink: He's been talking about how bad the Postal Service is for years.  Honestly, is there anything he does that doesn't outrage liberals?  God you people have such a thin skin. 

No he hasn't. He's been complaining that they undercharge Amazon for services because Jeff Bezos said mean things to him.

6 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

:blink: He's been talking about how bad the Postal Service is for years.  Honestly, is there anything he does that doesn't outrage liberals?  God you people have such a thin skin. 

:roll:

It's 3 months until an election and millions of Americans are going to rely on the USPS to vote.  

Why are all you liberals outraged by ****checks notes**** your constitutional rights being infringed upon?

"I don't like Trump and I'm not a MAGAt but I really hope he blocks your mail in ballot from being counted because you're a whiney lib and Trump is amazing!!!" :roll:🤡

13 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

No he hasn't. He's been complaining that they undercharge Amazon for services because Jeff Bezos said mean things to him.

The Postal Service bleeds money.  They've lost over $60B in the last decade.  They have $143B in unfunded liabilities, which is more than double its annual revenue.  This is primarily due to a congressionaly mandated retirement and healthcare plan that no other government agency gets.  Amazon is probably the single biggest customer of the USPS.  So no, its not a personal issue between Bezos and Trump. 

12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

:roll:

It's 3 months until an election and millions of Americans are going to rely on the USPS to vote.  

Why are all you liberals outraged by ****checks notes**** your constitutional rights being infringed upon?

Exactly the right time to fix it!

3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

"I don't like Trump and I'm not a MAGAt but I really hope he blocks your mail in ballot from being counted because you're a whiney lib and Trump is amazing!!!" :roll:🤡

"I prefer that my politicians do nothing and we continue to bleed tax dollars into an endless abyss of government waste so I can have a president who doesn't send tweets that upset my fragile emotional state" :roll:🤡

14 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Exactly the right time to fix it!

At least you admit you're a boot licking authoritarian that hates democracy.  You can stop calling yourself a conservative now.

14 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

The Postal Service bleeds money.  They've lost over $60B in the last decade.  They have $143B in unfunded liabilities, which is more than double its annual revenue.  This is primarily due to a congressionaly mandated retirement and healthcare plan that no other government agency gets.  Amazon is probably the single biggest customer of the USPS.  So no, its not a personal issue between Bezos and Trump. 

Exactly the right time to fix it!

I'm not trusting a wannabe authoritarian who calls the free press "the enemy of the people" to fix the postal service when a huge portion of voting will be done via mail.  

11 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

"I prefer that my politicians do nothing and we continue to bleed tax dollars into an endless abyss of government waste so I can have a president who doesn't send tweets that upset my fragile emotional state" :roll:🤡

The USPS doesn't run on tax dollars you colossal idiot.

33 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

The Postal Service bleeds money.  They've lost over $60B in the last decade.  They have $143B in unfunded liabilities, which is more than double its annual revenue.  This is primarily due to a congressionaly mandated retirement and healthcare plan that no other government agency gets. 

Which brings us full circle back to your original, stupid point which was that you think it's totally a great idea to address unfunded liabilities represented by a dinosaur pension program by cutting overtime, lowering headcount, and reducing the USPS's ability to drive additional revenue. :roll::roll:

I mean... most MAGAts I know are at least smart enough to know that you fix unfunded pension liabilities by addressing... you know... the actual pension. That's why we actually have real debates about making cuts to things social programs like Medicare and Social Security. The fact that you don't even comprehend that makes you an order of magnitude dumber than your run of the mill MAGAt.

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

he's doing it to slow down mail in voting...he already admitted it.  he talks about it every day. 

deflect the conversation elsewhere all you want but it all comes back to that. 

It's amazing any American would ever defend this.

Remember when @The Norseman said he was responsible for turning failing companies around?

Good times. He's like our own EMB Dave Ramsey and every time he posts about the USPS it's like a mini-episode of Kitchen Nightmares except he never actually shows up to fix anything and if he ever did he'd just make everything exponentially worse. :roll::roll:

 

Holy ish. This is so well said

 

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

"I prefer that my politicians do nothing and we continue to bleed tax dollars into an endless abyss of government waste so I can have a president who doesn't send tweets that upset my fragile emotional state" :roll:🤡

i love how everyone forgets fixing the USPS was one of his campaign promises and that he's been battling to get them turned around for 3 1/2 yrs and didnt specifically mention he's doing this because of mail in voting. 

1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

The USPS doesn't run on tax dollars you colossal idiot.

Colossal idiot, eh? :nonono:

The Cares Act delivered a $10B federal bailout to the USPS and Pelosi and company wanted much, much more. 

Keep kicking the can down the road Democrats. 

 

1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

Which brings us full circle back to your original, stupid point which was that you think it's totally a great idea to address unfunded liabilities represented by a dinosaur pension program by cutting overtime, lowering headcount, and reducing the USPS's ability to drive additional revenue. :roll::roll:

I mean... most MAGAts I know are at least smart enough to know that you fix unfunded pension liabilities by addressing... you know... the actual pension. That's why we actually have real debates about making cuts to things social programs like Medicare and Social Security. The fact that you don't even comprehend that makes you an order of magnitude dumber than your run of the mill MAGAt.

Man you are angry.  The best solution is to let USPS declare bankruptcy (since it is a pseudo private company) and to restructure their debt, pension and liabilities.  However, Democrats won't allow that and the union will fight them every step of the way.  I assume you don't support letting the USPS declare bankruptcy though do you?

Assuming you don't, then the next best thing is to start cutting the things you can to make the company run more efficiently and to be more attractive for a potential buyer.  

Pelosi and her merry band of thieves refuse to allow a USPS bankruptcy, so, instead they quietly steal money from the taxpayer during times of crisis by sneaking in taxpayer dollars to bailout bills.  It's gross. 

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i love how everyone forgets fixing the USPS was one of his campaign promises and that he's been battling to get them turned around for 3 1/2 yrs and didnt specifically mention he's doing this because of mail in voting. 

I'm confused.  Are you actually agreeing with me?

USPS is nothing like a private company. It can't declare bankruptcy.

5 minutes ago, toolg said:

USPS is nothing like a private company. It can't declare bankruptcy.

It’s also in the Constitution, which is why you can’t just liquidate it.

5 minutes ago, toolg said:

USPS is nothing like a private company. It can't declare bankruptcy.

I'ts a Frankenstein mix of public and private.  It may take a few tweaks to the US Bankruptcy code but it could declare bankruptcy if we let it.  

The problem is that the USPS' debt is backed by the Federal government, so we'd need to find a workaround to that in order for bankruptcy to actually happen.  

I think it takes an amendment to get rid of the post office and I don’t think the GOP has the votes.

3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I think it takes an amendment to get rid of the post office and I don’t think the GOP has the votes.

I don't think we need to get rid of it, we just need to make a decision once and for all.  Keep it and keep bailing it out every time it approaches bankruptcy, or, privatize it (or sell it) and let it succeed or fail on its own.  The hybrid experiment that us the USPS today has clearly failed.   

1 hour ago, Paul852 said:

It's amazing any American would ever defend this.

yet the deflection continues. :lol:  this is 100% cheeto trying to f up the mail because he's railed against mail-in voting for months. if you think it's a coincidence that he just happened to get around to "fixing" the postal service 3 months before the election and about a month before mail-in voting starts, then you are being willfully ignorant. it's his latest scam to steal the election...and there will be more. 

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