20 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Because you're not their customer. Your employer, or your employer's outsourced benefits provider, is the customer. It's why I mentioned the need to stop linking insurance with employment. They want to keep TriNet happy, not you.

Sure. But at the end of the day, there is still no incentive for them to improve their flawed and error prone processes due to a lack of competition. The cable company analogy deagle made was a good one, there's a reason why Comcast was routinely one of the most hated companies in the country year after year. Maybe there's an antitrust case to be made when these companies get to a certain size, I have no clue, but I do know a broken system when I see it, and this one is horribly broken.

Some dark humor

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Sure. But at the end of the day, there is still no incentive for them to improve their flawed and error prone processes due to a lack of competition. The cable company analogy deagle made was a good one, there's a reason why Comcast was routinely one of the most hated companies in the country year after year. Maybe there's an antitrust case to be made when these companies get to a certain size, I have no clue, but I do know a broken system when I see it, and this one is horribly broken.

They do have to compete with each other, but not for your business. They compete for TriNet's business. I wouldn't call it a monopoly like a cable company, where there is only one choice based on location potentially (and that has gone away with streaming and satellite). Your employer or benefits provider can choose among different providers, and some (not many) employers may even give you a choice among different providers/plans. The problem for the individual is you can't choose to fire them and switch providers. In that way, the cable analogy kind of works. But it is because most people get insurance through their employer. So it's not a complete natural monopoly, it's divorcing the person who receives the service from the person making the purchase decision.

The best comp I can think of right now is kids in a private school - the customer is the parents (although this has changed a lot in recent years as parents now give kids more of a say).

49 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

If you don't mind me asking, do you own your own practice or are you part of a larger group? Most of the PCPs that owned their own practices (among family friends) have been selling out to larger groups in the last few years. Seems like being an independent family doctor has been rendered impossible at this point.

We're privately owned.  Pretty large group.  We're based out of a large medical building though and bargain collectively with other private groups as an ACO. 

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

They do have to compete with each other, but not for your business.

Not here at least.

https://www.crainsgrandrapids.com/news/health-care/michigan-health-insurance-market-ranks-as-2nd-least-competitive-in-nation/#:~:text=Blue Cross Blue Shield's 67,on the public health exchange.

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

We're privately owned.  Pretty large group.  We're based out of a large medical building though and bargain collectively with other private groups as an ACO. 

Gotcha - have you noticed the same thing with the single practitioner basically going away?

19 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Gotcha - have you noticed the same thing with the single practitioner basically going away?

Not in my field as much but in my wife's (OBGYN) that's more true. 

On 12/5/2024 at 3:12 PM, vikas83 said:

Oh no, life is hard. Boohoo. So let's just go shoot a guy with a family.

Grow up Sally.

Not that I endorse shooting a guy, but denying a rightful claim to life-saving healthcare because you can get away with it seems to result in the same outcome: somebody dies.

I think one of the things that could help as well would be to be able to sell plans across state lines. 

4 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

The difference between you and everyone else in the thread is we have to pay our kids medical bills.  We've all been overcharged or had claims denied for all kinds of dumb reasons.  You just don't have a clue what you're talking about as usual.

 

@DEagle7 do you ever make patients wait so you can respond to a post in CVON?

32 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

@DEagle7 do you ever make patients wait so you can respond to a post in CVON?

Only when I have to find the PERFECT horsey gif to F with Procus

23 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Only when I have to find the PERFECT horsey gif to F with Procus

PM ME IF YOUR SHORT I HALVE A FOLDER

22 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

PM ME IF YOUR SHORT I HALVE A FOLDER

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2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

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YOU FORGOT ABOUT ME SOMEHOW BIFURCATING A DIGITAL DIRECTORY 

5 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Not that I endorse shooting a guy, but denying a rightful claim to life-saving healthcare because you can get away with it seems to result in the same outcome: somebody dies.

That's the part these people don't get. They need to see someone literally pull the trigger to say "Yeah, that guy contributed to someone's pain, suffering and death". NOW suddenly we're supposed to feel bad someone died?

Looks like they got his backpack

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LOL BROWN

CONFUSE EMOGEE IS THE HOG GOBLIN OF LITTLE MINDS

1 minute ago, Shepard Wong said:

The salmon hat gave it away, huh?

2 hours ago, Shepard Wong said:

For Willzyx!