9 hours ago, NOTW said:

Finally! Racial justice for white people trying to attend Ivy League schools. 

   the struggle is real!     

14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

So it’s impossible to be rich and black huh? 

6 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

So it’s impossible to be rich and black huh? 

It’s not impossible.  It’s also not impossible for a white person from a middle class family to get into Yale, but the DOJ did a 2-year investigation anyway.

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

It’s not impossible.  It’s also not impossible for a white person from a middle class family to get into Yale, but the DOJ did a 2-year investigation anyway.

The butthurt is glorious.  

This one is pretty simple, either you're OK with colleges openly discriminating against certain people based solely on their race or you're not. There's not much more to it than that.

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Yale lets in a lot of undergrads, but this is where you went wrong.  They want people who are going to write them giant checks, but they also want racial diversity.  That’s where they run into trouble - it’s not possible to have both in America.

"poor kids are just as smart as white kids"

-our next POTUS 

1 hour ago, sameaglesfan said:

So  - my youngest child applied to all the Ivy League schools.  He had a perfect 2400 SAT score, lettered in two sports throughout his HS career and was the product of a white middle class family living in a suburban area.

He didn't get a sniff from any of those schools.

Just sayin'

His name?  Albert Einstein...

3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

His name?  Albert Einstein...

Nah - he's just an overachiever.  He's bright and he works very hard.

8 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said:

Nah - he's just an overachiever.  He's bright and he works very hard.

I'm just messing with you man  

3 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

I bet everyone who posts here would have gotten into Yale if there was no affirmative action.

I pulled my application when I got in early at Penn, so I will never know.

Radical idea -- fix the failing elementary and secondary schools, then admit people to college based on merit. Instead we simply grade on a curve so we can all feel better about overlooking the issues in the education system.

Damn, so that's why I didn't get into Yale.

5 hours ago, Dawkins 20 said:

Aren't Asians basically the equivalent of white males in the crazy leftist oppression Olympics hierarchy?

Maybe. It is a very patriarchal culture.

I applied to Yale.  They charged me $.50 for the rejection letter.

1 hour ago, bobeph said:

I applied to Yale.  They charged me $.50 for the rejection letter.

Did they write it in crayon so you would understand it?

Just now, greend said:

Did they write it in crayon so you would understand it?

No.  Typed, Arial, 22 font, alternating colors of the rainbow.

 

What's the issue? Just get in the old fashion way

4 hours ago, bobeph said:

I applied to Yale.  They charged me $.50 for the rejection letter.

If white privilege was a football you would be nelson agholor. 

49 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

If white privilege was a football you would be nelson agholor. 

7 hours ago, vikas83 said:

I pulled my application when I got in early at Penn, so I will never know.

Radical idea -- fix the failing elementary and secondary schools, then admit people to college based on merit. Instead we simply grade on a curve so we can all feel better about overlooking the issues in the education system.

I think they’re trying to fix the post office like they fixed America’s schools.  

21 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I think they’re trying to fix the post office like they fixed America’s schools.  

The federal Department of Education is what messed up our schools. Imagine what the districts could do with the money that gets sucked into they black holw. Maybe we just need more government to fix the bad government. 

On 8/13/2020 at 9:40 PM, TEW said:

Justice Department Finds Yale Illegally Discriminates Against Asians and Whites in Undergraduate Admissions in Violation of Federal Civil-Rights Laws

 

Yeah right, I'm sure there are more Whites and Asians (who was claimed to be white by whites) at Yale than any other ethnic group.

6 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Yeah right, I'm sure there are more Whites and Asians (who was claimed to be white by whites) at Yale than any other ethnic group.

So what? You can have both groups disproportionately represented versus their population and also have racial discrimination against their groups.

6 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Yeah right, I'm sure there are more Whites and Asians (who was claimed to be white by whites) at Yale than any other ethnic group.

What does that even mean?

Did Dave Chappelle have another racial draft that I missed?

1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

What does that even mean?

Did Dave Chappelle have another racial draft that I missed?

It means exactly what it says, Asians were declared to be Caucasians......by Caucasians!!

So I actually was a poor -- let's say working class -- white dude who got into Yale from a little high school (now closed) in West Virginia, and I'm sure there was some affirmative action helping me out.

They could fill their class up with kids from elite private high schools, but they chose not to. They pay a price for that: some of the upper middle class kids from those elite private high schools have to go to a slightly less prestigious school than they could go to if not for people like me. A smaller cost is that they have to pay tuition and other bills for people like me. But that's the price they have to pay to try to make the class hierarchy look like a meritocracy, as well as releasing a little bit of social pressure by allowing a bit of social mobility. 

So, yeah, I was one of their token poor white Appalachian boys. And the reason that the other poor Appalachian boys weren't the tokens was because I beat them at most things in high school. So that's fun. 

Asian Americans have a good case that they're discriminated against, but I doubt this ruling is going to help them. It's going to hurt high performing black kids and help mediocre upper middle class white kids -- which is really what it was designed to do. It's a win for a few mediocre white kids on the fringes of the ruling class. And not that big of a win since they'll be mediocre at Yale too, and they'll wind up in about the same places in life that they would've gotten to if they'd had to settle for Columbia or Dartmouth. 

Anyway, we all have worse problems than this. 

On 8/14/2020 at 9:27 PM, sameaglesfan said:

So  - my youngest child applied to all the Ivy League schools.  He had a perfect 2400 SAT score, lettered in two sports throughout his HS career and was the product of a white middle class family living in a suburban area.

He didn't get a sniff from any of those schools.

Just sayin'

If this is true, and if he also had the other accomplishments a kid like that should have -- straight-As taking the hardest classes his school offered, a few good AP and subject test scores, winning some competitions (like math contests or science fairs or whatever), and decent extracurriculars -- then there's something you're not telling us about your kid. Kid like that ordinarily sleepwalks into a school like Cornell unless there's some kind of red flag.

Also, applying to all of them is a lot of unnecessary work. The gap between Harvard and Cornell is pretty big. He probably got some bad advice from his guidance counselor. 

Anyone out there whose kids are considering applying to a bunch of schools like that, consider this instead: Five reaches, three fits, two safeties. 

A reach is a school where his numbers give him about a realistic 20% chance of getting in. A fit is a school where his numbers give him about a realistic 50% chance of getting in. ("Realistic" means that the parents are probably not a good judge of this because everyone loves their kids and overestimates their greatness.) Have your kid work hard on the applications to a few reaches and fits -- that'll be plenty of work for a kid who's also going to school and having a life -- rather than rush through a lot more applications.