ManchesterEagle Posted January 3 Posted January 3 It’s a bit strange that Hurts hasn’t been officially cleared yet. Certainly we want to see him at practice start of next week. But, it got me thinking, are Eagles holding him back, knowing he isn’t playing this week anyway and to give the Packers/Commanders the idea that Pickett/McKee could start so they have to prepare for them as well?
JeeQ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I don't think Hurts is playing in the Wildcard Game This isn't gamesmanship. He could've passed the protocol and still rested this game. He hasn't passed the protocol, because he can't.
EagleJoe8 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 He hasn’t cleared because he hasn’t practiced and he hasn’t practiced because he’s for sure not playing this week. 2
Mike030270 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said: He hasn’t cleared because he hasn’t practiced and he hasn’t practiced because he’s for sure not playing this week. I don't think he'd cleared even if we needed him. He needs to pass the 5 steps before he can be cleared to fully practice 1
EagleJoe8 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I don't think he'd cleared even if we needed him. He needs to pass the 5 steps before he can be cleared to fully practice The way it's been explained in the blog, one of the steps is he needs to practice, then get checked after. 1
Mike030270 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: The way it's been explained in the blog, one of the steps is he needs to practice, then get checked after. He's allowed to practice in a limited capacity in phase 3 1
EagleJoe8 Posted January 3 Posted January 3 48 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: He's allowed to practice in a limited capacity in phase 3 Right. I’m guessing since he’s a lock to not play this week, it only makes sense to give him all the time possible before he needs to complete more steps.
JeeQ Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: I don't think he'd cleared even if we needed him. He needs to pass the 5 steps before he can be cleared to fully practice Correct. There's no benefit to not passing him through protocols if he could. He's not passing, because he can't. But the thought that Hurts is going to miss the playoffs is too much for a lot of fans to digest. 1
D-Shiznit Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Yeah, I’m officially worried. We have virtually no shot without him against GB.
VaBeach_Eagle Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Teams have experience dealing with concussions, every situation is different but they have the experience to have a good idea if there's a true issue or if it's just circumstances, meaning no starters playing the Little Giants so no need for Hurts to practice, and that means he can't get out of the protocol by technicality. If the 1 Seed was on the line, he'd likely be playing. 1
brkmsn Posted January 4 Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: Teams have experience dealing with concussions, every situation is different but they have the experience to have a good idea if there's a true issue or if it's just circumstances, meaning no starters playing the Little Giants so no need for Hurts to practice, and that means he can't get out of the protocol by technicality. If the 1 Seed was on the line, he'd likely be playing. I don't think that's the reason. They would want him going through the motions in practice even if he wasn't going to play. No team would want their franchise QB sitting around doing nothing for a couple weeks while everybody else works to prepare for the upcoming playoff game. He just hasn't advanced far enough yet. It's a little concerning that it has lingered this long especially after the incident didn't look severe at all. It's not like he was carted off the field or even laying there motionless for a spell. I would still expect him to be cleared next week at some point. I just don't believe the Eagles are using this as a way to gain some kind of competitive advantage. Every practice he misses is bad news. They held him out of practice last year to rest his (dislocated) finger and the offense played like crap in the wildcard game.
ManchesterEagle Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 3 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said: The way it's been explained in the blog, one of the steps is he needs to practice, then get checked after. 1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: Teams have experience dealing with concussions, every situation is different but they have the experience to have a good idea if there's a true issue or if it's just circumstances, meaning no starters playing the Little Giants so no need for Hurts to practice, and that means he can't get out of the protocol by technicality. If the 1 Seed was on the line, he'd likely be playing. Right. I don’t fully know the rules and I’m not a doctor but it seems to me: 1) Hurts’s concussion didn’t seem that bad compared to some I’ve seen, so I’d be surprised if he wouldn’t have been cleared this week if he needed to go. 2) None of the main starters are practicing, so there isn’t really any need to get Hurts out there, even in a Limited way. 3) A lot of people on this board are questioning his availability. If that’s the case for Green Bay/Washington as well, then they will have some doubt as to who is starting. So I’m just questioning as to whether the Eagles are using the rules to their advantage and holding him back to create uncertainty for the opposition?
VaBeach_Eagle Posted January 4 Posted January 4 6 hours ago, brkmsn said: I don't think that's the reason. They would want him going through the motions in practice even if he wasn't going to play. No team would want their franchise QB sitting around doing nothing for a couple weeks while everybody else works to prepare for the upcoming playoff game. He just hasn't advanced far enough yet. It's a little concerning that it has lingered this long especially after the incident didn't look severe at all. It's not like he was carted off the field or even laying there motionless for a spell. I would still expect him to be cleared next week at some point. I just don't believe the Eagles are using this as a way to gain some kind of competitive advantage. Every practice he misses is bad news. They held him out of practice last year to rest his (dislocated) finger and the offense played like crap in the wildcard game. Normally, I'd be concerned too and maybe I should be. But with all of the 'resting' of starters, I'm just not concerned. I would like for him to get reps, I'd actually like for him to play this weekend, but that's admittedly a little because I think that if he were to play a half, so would Barkley and if that happened, he'd get the record. But he'd be sitting out regardless of being in the protocol. I do think (hope) that the 'bye week' is just being utilized to give him that much more time to recover and maybe it is a little bit of gamesmanship, though I don't see the point in that. The Redskins and/or Packers will prepare for Hurts with the thought that they'll be able to load the box and stop either of our backups from hurting them in the air. I fully expect (hope) that Hurts will be out there for the playoffs. Just hopefully not too rusty.
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I certainly don’t think the preparation for this weeks game is "helping” provide any clarity on the situation. If it were a normal week we’d know more because he’d either be cleared or he wouldn’t. But because the starters are resting this week that changes the whole dynamic. I am concerned at this point because it’s been 13 days now and he’s still not cleared protocol. That said there are mitigating circumstances this week why he may not have. So I guess it’s going to be an anxious few days wait until early next week to find out.
nipples Posted January 4 Posted January 4 9 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: Yeah, I’m officially worried. We have virtually no shot without him against GB. GB might be the most overrated team in the league, and Love the most overrated QB. I’m confident the Eagles beat them even without Hurts.
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, nipples said: GB might be the most overrated team in the league, and Love the most overrated QB. I’m confident the Eagles beat them even without Hurts. GB are better than Washington on their day. Their defense is better overall and it all comes down to Love. He can win games but he can lose them. I’m not sure which I’d prefer to face.
nipples Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: GB are better than Washington on their day. Their defense is better overall and it all comes down to Love. He can win games but he can lose them. I’m not sure which I’d prefer to face. Meh. I’d much rather play GB than Washington. They have just never impressed me at all. They’re I believe 2-4 against playoff teams this season, and one of those was against the Rams early in the year when they were 1-4 or something like that.
Procus Posted January 4 Posted January 4 A nice little side story to this is the play of Pickett and McKee. I feel more confident with either of those two behind center than i did with Gardner Minshew. Especially McKee. He's a Stanford guy AND he has physical tools you can't teach. I'd keep McKee over Pickett, but KP showed toughness and resiliency last week, and I believe he won over a fan base that was in large part not necessarily in his corner. 2
time2rock Posted January 4 Posted January 4 13 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: Yeah, I’m officially worried. We have virtually no shot without him against GB. BDN on speed dial? 1
Procus Posted January 4 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, time2rock said: BDN on speed dial? Tanner McKee could be BDN, Jr.
brkmsn Posted January 4 Posted January 4 9 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: Normally, I'd be concerned too and maybe I should be. But with all of the 'resting' of starters, I'm just not concerned. I would like for him to get reps, I'd actually like for him to play this weekend, but that's admittedly a little because I think that if he were to play a half, so would Barkley and if that happened, he'd get the record. But he'd be sitting out regardless of being in the protocol. I do think (hope) that the 'bye week' is just being utilized to give him that much more time to recover and maybe it is a little bit of gamesmanship, though I don't see the point in that. The Redskins and/or Packers will prepare for Hurts with the thought that they'll be able to load the box and stop either of our backups from hurting them in the air. I fully expect (hope) that Hurts will be out there for the playoffs. Just hopefully not too rusty. The reason I feel the concern about the effects of the concussion dragging out is because Hurts is a QB and also a physical one. So he will take hits as a passer and as a runner. It's safe to say at this point he's been pretty durable and avoided lengthy major injuries. But taking longer than normal to advance through the protocol brings back thoughts of Luke Kuechly. Making me scratch my head even more is that this particular concussion didn't seem remarkable and Hurts bounced right up. Most players don't come out of a game and then miss the following two games because they haven't been cleared. Players are usually a LP at practice at some point before the next game and if they do miss that game are FP early the following week. Kuechly had 3 reported concussions in the NFL. All of them took longer than normal to return from. He retired at 28 years old.
LacesOut Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I think Hurts plays the WC game, and he's being held out again (this week) for extra precaution.
eglz1 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 5 hours ago, Procus said: A nice little side story to this is the play of Pickett and McKee. I feel more confident with either of those two behind center than i did with Gardner Minshew. Especially McKee. He's a Stanford guy AND he has physical tools you can't teach. I'd keep McKee over Pickett, but KP showed toughness and resiliency last week, and I believe he won over a fan base that was in large part not necessarily in his corner. We haven't seen enough of McKee to form a valid opinion but he appears to play the style I like to see a Quarterback play,
VaBeach_Eagle Posted January 4 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, eglz1 said: We haven't seen enough of McKee to form a valid opinion ... Since when has that ever stopped us?
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