January 30Jan 30 Meanwhile, despite the ATC seeing both aircraft and notifying each of the others presence, Democrats are blaming Trump for understaffing at the FAA.
January 30Jan 30 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Meanwhile, despite the ATC seeing both aircraft and notifying each of the others presence, Democrats are blaming Trump for understaffing at the FAA. obviously anyone doing that is equally an asshat.
January 30Jan 30 41 minutes ago, Bill said: Work up of the audio combined with an overlay. Goes to show you that what you see sometimes isn't what happened. After having seen the actual crash video over and over last night, I'd have sworn that the helicopter was coming in from the rear of the plane, or rear/side. Not almost head on.
January 30Jan 30 3 hours ago, Paul852 said: You know this is a thread about people dying, right? Just put him on ignore
January 30Jan 30 12 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Meanwhile, despite the ATC seeing both aircraft and notifying each of the others presence, Democrats are blaming Trump for understaffing at the FAA. We know it was DEI, amiright?
January 30Jan 30 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: We know it was DEI, amiright? Maybe it was both. Like Trump might be a minority or something.
January 30Jan 30 55 minutes ago, Bill said: Work up of the audio combined with an overlay. Thanks for that. Who is MWAA? It also sounded like they had 3 planes on approach, and they were asked to go to 3K ft before the actual crash? Just diverting traffic?
January 30Jan 30 28 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Meanwhile, despite the ATC seeing both aircraft and notifying each of the others presence, Democrats are blaming Trump for understaffing at the FAA. It’s trumps game to immediately point blame to any political opponent he can for anything bad that happens. How can you honestly be surprised by this?
January 30Jan 30 2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Disrespectful but this is what some of you wanted and voted for Or didn't bother voting out.
January 30Jan 30 9 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: It’s trumps game to immediately point blame to any political opponent he can for anything bad that happens. How can you honestly be surprised by this? True, who can forget this famous quote? "When they go low, we go it's Trump's fault!"
January 30Jan 30 54 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: same clown as last time He is a despicable and vile human being. But everyone already knows that.
January 30Jan 30 20 minutes ago, DiPros said: Thanks for that. Who is MWAA? It also sounded like they had 3 planes on approach, and they were asked to go to 3K ft before the actual crash? Just diverting traffic? Metro Washington Airports Authority. More or less who runs the airport. I’m guessing that was an all call on their ground freq to let anyone who is supposed to respond to that kind of thing that it did happen. Have to coordinate with the tower because ground vehicles can’t just drive all over the airport at will, which is why the ground controller told all aircraft to hold positions on the ground so that the emergency vehicles could drive on whatever surface they needed to. In terms of the diversions, yeah after an incident the airport becomes closed for takeoffs and landings. It takes a minute to coordinate that with the approach controllers who are on a separate freq in a different area than tower. The usual standard for a go around or missed approach is to climb to a certain altitude and at a certain heading. Usually those are published and can be found on the airport diagrams. In this case they were vectored up and away from the airport and the immediate airspace around the incident scene (you’re gonna have rescue helos coming out of the woodwork in that area). So it was more or less inbound aircraft getting handed off from approach to the tower because approach wasn’t aware, and then the tower directing them to go around and giving them a direction and altitude away from the airport and area.
January 30Jan 30 I take it those flights on approach had to land somewhere else, like Dulles or BWI? Especially with all that goes on with ground crews who had to halt so emergency response could get going. It's got to be a crazy job at times. I've always found it fascinating, especially on 9/11 that there were no crashes during the ground stop. Quite an unforgettable feat.
January 30Jan 30 3 minutes ago, DiPros said: I take it those flights on approach had to land somewhere else, like Dulles or BWI? Especially with all that goes on with ground crews who had to halt so emergency response could get going. It's got to be a crazy job at times. I've always found it fascinating, especially on 9/11 that there were no crashes during the ground stop. Quite an unforgettable feat. Either that or they had an alternate airport already filed that they went to.
January 30Jan 30 4 minutes ago, Bill said: Either that or they had an alternate airport already filed that they went to. https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/air-traffic-audio-from-american-airlines-crash-with-military-helicopter-did-you-see-that/vi-AA1y76R9?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=0f02630ab43b425ef04bb7106617c436&ei=7 Found it. One went to Glebe, one to Dulles, and one to BWI. Thanks
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