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  1. 1. Who killed JFK?

    • Oswald acted alone
    • It was the CIA
    • It was the Mafia
    • It was the Cuban exile community
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    • LBJ ordered the hit
    • Conspiracy involving more than one of the above

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I think his head just kinda did that on its own. 

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20 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Might be the first time I've seen the Bee mock their own party 

This photo also rules out a shooter on the overpass. Inside the target car viewed that position and the bullet would have to pass through windshield of the limo. No possible way it came from there.

23 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I believed it for years too. It wasn't until I lived through 9/11, and the aftermath in the few years that followed, when I started to realize how similar the conspiracy theories were being constructed from misleading facts or outright false claims about the events that day. I actually still remember watching the infamous Loose Change truther video from my bed in college when it hit me that maybe what I had taken at face value about the JFK assassination had probably also been wrong, so I got up and immediately spent the next week reading about the assassination at length, including the warren commission report, and coming to the conclusion that Oswald definitely killed him. 

Is there more to the story than what was reported in real time? Probably 

Does the government, specifically the CIA/FBI, hide information from the general public? Yes

Does the release of classified information under  a trump administration make him more trustworthy for doing so? Only if you’re a moron.

The goal of this whole circus act of releasing classified information is give looney conspiracy theorists an "Ah Ha!!!” moment, feed their insanity, sow more distrust in the federal government and make people believe they can trust trump.

And not one single thing is going to change.  JFK is still dead. There will never be a final, case-closed solution of what really happened. Conspiracy theorists will continue to believe all sorts of crazy made up scenarios that are mostly meaningless.

 

My write in vote for the poll: OP is a green lantern.

In this episode # 2, they view different locations, angles and trajectories. Only 2 remain. Grassy Knoll and the Book Depository. Shots from both locations have very different results. The grassy knoll shot exits the left side of the presidents head, while the shot from behind exits the right front of his head. The arterial blood spray matches the Zapruder film exactly with a shot from behind. Proving to me Oswald was the shooter. Also, the matter inside the car was shown to two witnesses who viewed the car at the hospital and stated that they successfully reproduced what the saw on that day. Case closed.

 

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Probably should edit the poll to add Arthur Jackson as a choice

15 minutes ago, Procus said:

Probably should edit the poll to add Arthur Jackson as a choice

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Eyewitness testimony of railroad workers standing on overpass
 
Several railroad workers stationed on the Triple Overpass in Dallas, Texas, provided eyewitness accounts related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. These workers had a vantage point overlooking Dealey Plaza, offering them a clear view of the events as the presidential motorcade passed through. Their testimonies have been widely discussed, particularly in relation to the number of shots they heard and the observation of smoke near the grassy knoll area.
 
One prominent witness was S.M. "Sam" Holland, a railroad supervisor. Holland reported hearing four shots during the assassination. He stated that after the shots were fired, he observed a puff of smoke rising from the trees near the wooden picket fence atop the grassy knoll, to the right of the Texas School Book Depository. Holland described the smoke as lingering under the trees, suggesting to him that at least one shot originated from that location rather than solely from the Depository. He later testified to this effect before the Warren Commission and reiterated his account in a 1970 interview, emphasizing the distinct sound and the visual confirmation of smoke.
 
Other railroad workers corroborated aspects of Holland’s account. James L. Simmons, another worker on the overpass, similarly reported hearing multiple shots—more than the three officially recognized by the Warren Commission—and also noted seeing smoke drifting out from the trees near the knoll. Richard C. Dodd and Clemon Johnson, fellow railroad employees, supported the observation of smoke emanating from the same area, describing it as coming from the direction of the grassy knoll or the right field bleachers, as they perceived it. Royce Skelton and Thomas Murphy also provided supporting statements, noting unusual activity or sounds consistent with shots from that vicinity.
 
These workers’ accounts contrast with the official findings of the Warren Commission, which concluded that all shots were fired by Lee Harvey Oswald from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. The Commission acknowledged the presence of the railroad workers on the overpass but determined that no credible evidence supported shots originating from the grassy knoll or elsewhere beyond the Depository. The smoke sightings were dismissed as possibly being exhaust from a nearby vehicle or other environmental factors, though the workers maintained their observations were tied to the timing of the gunfire.
 
The consistency among these testimonies—particularly regarding the number of shots and the presence of smoke—has fueled debate about the accuracy of the official narrative. However, eyewitness testimony, including that of the railroad workers, is often subject to scrutiny due to factors like memory distortion, the chaos of the moment, and the influence of reverberating sounds in Dealey Plaza, which could confuse the perceived direction of shots. Despite these challenges, the accounts of Holland, Simmons, Dodd, Johnson, Skelton, and Murphy remain significant for those examining alternative interpretations of the assassination events.
30 minutes ago, Procus said:

Probably should edit the poll to add Arthur Jackson as a choice

If you do that then I'll place a vote

@Procus

You covered yourself pretty well in your vote with the "one or more of the above" and considering Oswald was one of the choices :roll:

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3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

@Procus

You covered yourself pretty well in your vote with the "one or more of the above" and considering Oswald was one of the choices :roll:

Actually, that was calculated - but more correctly should read "more than one of the above"  which would preclude Oswald having acted alone.  Thanks for pointing out - I revised the choice.

The grassy knoll shot produces very different results then the shot from behind. Case closed.

 

1 hour ago, Procus said:

 

the head of the cia was a republican. the gop strikes again. :nonono:

7 hours ago, Procus said:

You have room to talk with your global warming conspiracy nutjob bs.  Al Gore said the ice caps on the poles would have melted by 2014.  How'd that go?

JFC.  If you don’t understand the science behind releasing carbon from the earths crust into our atmosphere and how it causes warming, then I don’t know what to tell you.  It’s proven scientific fact man has greatly contributed to climate change.

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Probably should edit the poll to add Arthur Jackson as a choice

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1 hour ago, Procus said:

Probably should edit the poll to add Arthur Jackson as a choice

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12 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

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I voted no in the Is Arthur Jackson Funny thread

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And Lee Bowers mysteriously died in a car crash in 1966

 

Just now, Procus said:

I voted no in the Is Arthur Jackson Funny thread

That's because you, @Dave Moss, and the rest of the dumb butt fartfaces don't understand my particular brand of high-brow intellectual humour.

Your loss.

7 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

That's because you, @Dave Moss, and the rest of the dumb butt fartfaces don't understand my particular brand of high-brow intellectual humour.

Your loss.

I’ll have to rewatch Life Of Brian

19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I’ll have to rewatch Life Of Brian

Romanes eunt domus

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48 minutes ago, barho said:

JFC.  If you don’t understand the science behind releasing carbon from the earths crust into our atmosphere and how it causes warming, then I don’t know what to tell you.  It’s proven scientific fact man has greatly contributed to climate change.

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1 hour ago, barho said:

...proven scientific fact...

Please don't use this phrase.

Thanks.

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