clueless and superbad may be a final 4 battle

Pissed that Can't Hardly Wait didn't even make it out the first round!  Loved that movie

On 8/24/2020 at 5:02 PM, NOTW said:

I would've liked Ben Affleck to continue in this style of movie.  I thought he actually did a great job in BvS.

Agreed.  He was the one tolerable part of that movie. Probably mainly because him and the other Argo writer touched up the script. 
 

I would have loved to have seen him in a stand alone.

23 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

The rumor is he was set to do "The Batman" however , he is in recovery from alcohol and struggled with it during BVS . They told him not to do " The Batman " because he would relapse big time. 

Rumor I heard is that WB corporate around that time was a dumpster fire and he was ticked over what they did to JL. 

6 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

Pissed that Can't Hardly Wait didn't even make it out the first round!  Loved that movie

It beat 21 Jump Street, 8190 (56%) to 6321 (44%) in the first round according to the voting results (listed as now closed) below.  It's got a tough match up with American Pie now.  Get the feeling AP will win because it's A-more popular as a franchise than a one-off stand alone film and B-is the more recent film between the two.  If it were me Can't Hardly Wait would be coming out of that bracket and into the Final Four.

Voting ends at 6PM EST so voting for Round 2 is done.  Guess they'll update results soon.

F, I miss sports.

 

3 hours ago, Bill said:

Agreed.  He was the one tolerable part of that movie. Probably mainly because him and the other Argo writer touched up the script. 
 

I would have loved to have seen him in a stand alone.

Rumor I heard is that WB corporate around that time was a dumpster fire and he was ticked over what they did to JL. 

Well yes and it was causing him to go back to drinking so they said if he went and did the batman he would drink himself to death

In an interview published Tuesday by The New York Times, the two-time Oscar winner said his struggles with alcohol, his divorce from Jennifer Garner, and a "troubled shoot” on Justice League prompted him to abandon the role of Bruce Wayne.

"I showed somebody The Batman script,” Affleck told the Times. "They said, ‘I think the script is good. I also think you’ll drink yourself to death if you go through what you just went though again.”

Affleck said he "drank relatively normally,” but then things got out-of-control.

9 hours ago, Green_Guinness said:

It beat 21 Jump Street, 8190 (56%) to 6321 (44%) in the first round according to the voting results (listed as now closed) below.  It's got a tough match up with American Pie now.  Get the feeling AP will win because it's A-more popular as a franchise than a one-off stand alone film and B-is the more recent film between the two.  If it were me Can't Hardly Wait would be coming out of that bracket and into the Final Four.

Voting ends at 6PM EST so voting for Round 2 is done.  Guess they'll update results soon.

F, I miss sports.

 

it was definitely the age of the average voter. majority of those movies are all 20+ years old at least.

most of the brackets would be akin to my 18 year old son being asked for greater eagles qb, Rodney Pete or Doug Peterson. he'll vote Peterson because it sounds familiar. 

can't hardly wait, at least the sweet 16. i love the movie and young Lauren Ambrose.

12 hours ago, Green_Guinness said:

It beat 21 Jump Street, 8190 (56%) to 6321 (44%) in the first round according to the voting results (listed as now closed) below.  It's got a tough match up with American Pie now.  Get the feeling AP will win because it's A-more popular as a franchise than a one-off stand alone film and B-is the more recent film between the two.  If it were me Can't Hardly Wait would be coming out of that bracket and into the Final Four.

Voting ends at 6PM EST so voting for Round 2 is done.  Guess they'll update results soon.

F, I miss sports.

 

It did not beat 21 Jump Street - it might have won strictly on the online poll, but they also run polls on twitter and Instagram.  Guessing the social media polls went the way of 21 Jump St due to the youth factor vs us old heads doing it online.  When I voted yesterday, it was American Pie vs. Jump St.  I just checked again today - American Pie won and now faces Superbad.

2 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

It did not beat 21 Jump Street - it might have won strictly on the online poll, but they also run polls on twitter and Instagram.  Guessing the social media polls went the way of 21 Jump St due to the youth factor vs us old heads doing it online.  When I voted yesterday, it was American Pie vs. Jump St.  I just checked again today - American Pie won and now faces Superbad.

Oh, guess I only saw the online results.  Well that sucks.  I bet most of the ones who voted for stupid 21 Jump Street never even saw Can't Hardly Wait.  

 

9 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Oh, guess I only saw the online results.  Well that sucks.  I bet most of the ones who voted for stupid 21 Jump Street never even saw Can't Hardly Wait.  

 

Yeah that's what I was thinking - younger generation - only saw 21 Jump St.

Superbad will destroy American Pie would be my guess

16 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well yes and it was causing him to go back to drinking so they said if he went and did the batman he would drink himself to death

In an interview published Tuesday by The New York Times, the two-time Oscar winner said his struggles with alcohol, his divorce from Jennifer Garner, and a "troubled shoot” on Justice League prompted him to abandon the role of Bruce Wayne.

"I showed somebody The Batman script,” Affleck told the Times. "They said, ‘I think the script is good. I also think you’ll drink yourself to death if you go through what you just went though again.”

Affleck said he "drank relatively normally,” but then things got out-of-control.

What drove him to drink?  The vigorous training he had to do, or frustration with the production crew or something?

Just now, NOTW said:

What drove him to drink?  The vigorous training he had to do, or frustration with the production crew or something?

my guess is making a film, any film, is stressful. So maybe his stress management was that bottle...

... but then he makes The Way Back which is just straight boozing

5 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

my guess is making a film, any film, is stressful. So maybe his stress management was that bottle...

... but then he makes The Way Back which is just straight boozing

I enjoyed that movie until like the last 15-20 minutes

9 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

my guess is making a film, any film, is stressful. So maybe his stress management was that bottle...

... but then he makes The Way Back which is just straight boozing

 

He and his writing partner re-wrote all the Wayne/Batman scenes in BvS and they were the best parts of that movie.  He's a good director himself, so I would imagine it's frustrating to deal with a poorly run production.  There was this video when he was promoting it too:

 

 

41 minutes ago, NOTW said:

What drove him to drink?  The vigorous training he had to do, or frustration with the production crew or something?

Apperently he already had somewhat of a drinking problem and his divorce from Jennifer Garner was around the same time he was making BVS . I know they mentioned a few times he absolutely hated his script and some other parts of making that movie. 

10 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Apperently he already had somewhat of a drinking problem and his divorce from Jennifer Garner was around the same time he was making BVS . I know they mentioned a few times he absolutely hated his script and some other parts of making that movie. 

That's a shame.  Sounds like everything was hitting him at once.  I wonder if the production were in better hands and time had passed with getting some help for the drinking could it have worked out.

I said this back when BvS happened.  His parts were the best in the movie despite the concern over his casting, and what they should have done was punted and let him produce perhaps even direct.  Similar with how Jon Favreau has become part of the Disney inner circle on Marvel and now Star Wars content.  His style in Gone Baby Gone and The Town lends itself well to the Batman movies.  Oh well.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

What drove him to drink?  The vigorous training he had to do, or frustration with the production crew or something?

 

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

That's a shame.  Sounds like everything was hitting him at once.  I wonder if the production were in better hands and time had passed with getting some help for the drinking could it have worked out.

I said this back when BvS happened.  His parts were the best in the movie despite the concern over his casting, and what they should have done was punted and let him produce perhaps even direct.  Similar with how Jon Favreau has become part of the Disney inner circle on Marvel and now Star Wars content.  His style in Gone Baby Gone and The Town lends itself well to the Batman movies.  Oh well.

There’s a podcast I listen to that’s strictly about Batman in movies (nerd alert).  From what they’ve heard (the guy who runs the site is connected, and they bring in someone from the Hollywood Reporter every now and again) WB very much meddled in the movie and most of JL was reshoots. The execs at the time cut BvS down, and Affleck scored an EP credit for JL to keep it from happening again, but DC leadership and WB leadership kept making wrong moves to try and duplicate Marvel, which doesn’t work for DC. Suicide Squad was heavily edited, as well. 
 

luckily now with ATT being at the helm, they’re changing course and letting the filmmakers do their thing. Since it’s new ownership there’s no sunk cost for them to fix the DCEU, which is why we are seeing the Snyder Cut. 
 

Also it got announced that Affleck will be back as Batman in the Flash movie, which should work since they’re doing a Multiverse. 

26 minutes ago, Bill said:

 

There’s a podcast I listen to that’s strictly about Batman in movies (nerd alert).  From what they’ve heard (the guy who runs the site is connected, and they bring in someone from the Hollywood Reporter every now and again) WB very much meddled in the movie and most of JL was reshoots. The execs at the time cut BvS down, and Affleck scored an EP credit for JL to keep it from happening again, but DC leadership and WB leadership kept making wrong moves to try and duplicate Marvel, which doesn’t work for DC. Suicide Squad was heavily edited, as well. 
 

luckily now with ATT being at the helm, they’re changing course and letting the filmmakers do their thing. Since it’s new ownership there’s no sunk cost for them to fix the DCEU, which is why we are seeing the Snyder Cut. 
 

Also it got announced that Affleck will be back as Batman in the Flash movie, which should work since they’re doing a Multiverse. 

Yes Keaton is also in the flash movie as Batman

46 minutes ago, Bill said:

 

There’s a podcast I listen to that’s strictly about Batman in movies (nerd alert).  From what they’ve heard (the guy who runs the site is connected, and they bring in someone from the Hollywood Reporter every now and again) WB very much meddled in the movie and most of JL was reshoots. The execs at the time cut BvS down, and Affleck scored an EP credit for JL to keep it from happening again, but DC leadership and WB leadership kept making wrong moves to try and duplicate Marvel, which doesn’t work for DC. Suicide Squad was heavily edited, as well. 
 

luckily now with ATT being at the helm, they’re changing course and letting the filmmakers do their thing. Since it’s new ownership there’s no sunk cost for them to fix the DCEU, which is why we are seeing the Snyder Cut. 
 

Also it got announced that Affleck will be back as Batman in the Flash movie, which should work since they’re doing a Multiverse. 

The problem with individual filmmakers doing their own thing is you don't get the consistency within that movie universe unless you have producers steering it the right way.  Marvel has different directors and the movies have their own styles but they make it all fit within the universe.  That's why DC does well on TV it's all connected.  Marvel created their own studio so they could make the decision and ensure the cast and crew and stories were in line with the comics and each movie could be connected, easier for actors to appear in each other's movies, etc.

DC just missed the boat.  They resurrected Batman in 2005 with Batman Begins.  In 2008 The Dark Knight came out, same year as Iron Man launched the MCU.  Bale and Nolan didn't want to continue anyway and their 3rd movie IMO wasn't very good.  And it came out in 2012 which was when the First Avengers movie came out. 

Man of Steel came out the year after Bale's last Batman movie.  Had there been a cohesive plan they could have used the reboots of Batman and Superman and had a Wonder Woman solo - the big 3 - then do a BvS properly, then JL and other characters after that.  Also Snyder was a bad choice. 

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

The problem with individual filmmakers doing their own thing is you don't get the consistency within that movie universe unless you have producers steering it the right way.  Marvel has different directors and the movies have their own styles but they make it all fit within the universe.  That's why DC does well on TV it's all connected.  Marvel created their own studio so they could make the decision and ensure the cast and crew and stories were in line with the comics and each movie could be connected, easier for actors to appear in each other's movies, etc.

DC just missed the boat.  They resurrected Batman in 2005 with Batman Begins.  In 2008 The Dark Knight came out, same year as Iron Man launched the MCU.  Bale and Nolan didn't want to continue anyway and their 3rd movie IMO wasn't very good.  And it came out in 2012 which was when the First Avengers movie came out. 

Man of Steel came out the year after Bale's last Batman movie.  Had there been a cohesive plan they could have used the reboots of Batman and Superman and had a Wonder Woman solo - the big 3 - then do a BvS properly, then JL and other characters after that.  Also Snyder was a bad choice. 

WBs issue wasn’t one of continuity. Snyder was absolutely the wrong choice, but their problems weren’t an EP trying to keep continuity, it was C Suite level people digging their fingers in. 
 

They should have just listened to Nolan and only did solo movies. 

On 8/24/2020 at 11:51 AM, LeanMeanGM said:

They are going to shoot and show this scene again, arent they? I swear to god, we don't need 2,236 variations of this one simple scene.

from what i've been hearing they are jumping straight to Batman year 2.

13 minutes ago, DoWorx said:

from what i've been hearing they are jumping straight to Batman year 2.

Thank god. I know it’s petty as hell but like did we really need that scene in The Joker? 

22 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Thank god. I know it’s petty as hell but like did we really need that scene in The Joker? 

Every director wants their own take on it. 
 

Personally I like how they did it with the newest Spider-Man. 

33 minutes ago, Bill said:

Every director wants their own take on it. 
 

Personally I like how they did it with the newest Spider-Man. 

I get it but their takes are always almost identical

On 8/26/2020 at 7:10 AM, wholesale_Melvin said:

it was definitely the age of the average voter. majority of those movies are all 20+ years old at least.

most of the brackets would be akin to my 18 year old son being asked for greater eagles qb, Rodney Pete or Doug Peterson. he'll vote Peterson because it sounds familiar. 

can't hardly wait, at least the sweet 16. i love the movie and young Lauren Ambrose.

She's a cutie