On 3/20/2025 at 1:36 PM, RememberTheKoy said:

The only thing the 2017 team has on the 2024 team is a better Jake Elliott.

Otherwise it's easily the 2024 team. Best defense in the NFL of this current century and the most talented offense in Eagles franchise history.

The dude was 4 for 4 (5 for 5 actually if you count the redo) in the Superbowl....

1 hour ago, opa-opa said:

The dude was 4 for 4 (5 for 5 actually if you count the redo) in the Superbowl....

 

Yeah thankfully.  But he was ass throughout the season and playoffs. Undeniable it was the worst season of his career.

36 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Yeah thankfully.  But he was ass throughout the season and playoffs. Undeniable it was the worst season of his career.

That was all Lovato’s fault.  Mann’s handling of Lovato’s errant snaps threw Elliot’s timing off.

Most points scored by a kicker in Superbowl history:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/which-kicker-has-the-most-points-in-the-super-bowl

I'd rank our SB appearing teams in this order, based primarily on talent on the field.  But to be honest, I could be persuaded to swap the 2018 and 1981 teams.  

1. 2025
2. 2005
3. 2023
4. 2018
5. 1981

Honestly the only position I see where the 2017 seems clearly better was TE. You might be able to argue the LBs (outside of Baun) were better but that's a huge caveat.  The RB corp was deeper with Ajayi/Blount/pre injury Clement, but none of em were close to Barkley's level. 

But that's about it. Everywhere else I think 2024 is clearly better. 

The 2024 team was better but not by much

4 hours ago, The Norseman said:

I'd rank our SB appearing teams in this order, based primarily on talent on the field.  But to be honest, I could be persuaded to swap the 2018 and 1981 teams.  

1. 2025
2. 2005
3. 2023
4. 2018
5. 1981

I understand you are basing it on talent on the field, but I still can't wrap my head around a team that won being behind two teams that lost.

20 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Honestly the only position I see where the 2017 seems clearly better was TE. You might be able to argue the LBs (outside of Baun) were better but that's a huge caveat.  The RB corp was deeper with Ajayi/Blount/pre injury Clement, but none of em were close to Barkley's level. 

But that's about it. Everywhere else I think 2024 is clearly better. 

 

Better Safety tandem n 2017.

On 3/21/2025 at 11:44 PM, AmericanEagle77 said:

I was a touch young to remember that in particular too well, but it's just insane when you look at what they did, particularly in the playoffs. When you hear 'the defense and special teams alone outscored the other teams before the offense even was factored in, in the playoffs' it's still something that sounds mind boggling even to this day.

I would still like to see Ray's white suit but on the field he was a menace when he was young. (2012 Ray was a late-to-the-pile figurehead)

Those Titans of 1998-2000 were incredible. They lost the SB by a yard and they lost to the Ravens because Ray said "MY FOOTBALL!" and just ripped it from a Titan (Eddie George, I think)

There are about 25-50 iconic moments from Super Bowls and one was the Giants getting a kick return and then Jamal Lewis taking the very next kick to the house to completely crush the spirit of the Giants. They could have played for 10 hours and the Giants were still not scoring a TD on offense.

I think the 1980 team is underrated because they got blasted in that game.

Jaworski was an elite QB that year. He was top 5 or so in almost all QB stats and he was first in ANY/A.

The D was ranked 1st in points and 2nd in yards.

They were 1st in point differential and they won their regular season games by an average of 10 and the first two playoff games by 14.

They just had a really bad day in New Orleans.

 

 

2017 passing>2024 passing

2024 run game and defense>2017 run game and defense

2017 playcalling>2024 playcalling

Regular season: 2017 >2024; post-season: 2024 > 2017.

On 3/22/2025 at 6:25 AM, NJWolverEagle11 said:

I think most agree that 24 is the better roster but let's  dive a little deeper.

Better prop? Dog Masks or Inner Excellence?

Better rallying cry? "We all we got, we all we need" or "Let's hunt"

Better (more significant) pick 6? Patrick Robinson or Coop?

Most memorable play? Philly special or Saquon snow run (my fave)?

Better prop: Dog Masks. Underdog story.

Better rallying cry: Let's hunt. Sounds better.

Better (more significant) pick 6: Patrick Robinson. Vikings drove down the field on their opening and got a touchdown, then Eagles got stopped on their drive. That pick 6 changed momentum of the game. After Barnett strip sack, Eagles were essentially in the driver's seat to win. With Cooper DeJean pick 6, Eagles pretty much dominated Chiefs all game.

Most memorable play: Philly Special. Other teams have ran that play since and essentially got Eagles Super Bowl in 2017.

30 minutes ago, gameshowfan91 said:

Regular season: 2017 >2024; post-season: 2024 > 2017.

Better prop: Dog Masks. Underdog story.

Better rallying cry: Let's hunt. Sounds better.

Better (more significant) pick 6: Patrick Robinson. Vikings drove down the field on their opening and got a touchdown, then Eagles got stopped on their drive. That pick 6 changed momentum of the game. After Barnett strip sack, Eagles were essentially in the driver's seat to win. With Cooper DeJean pick 6, Eagles pretty much dominated Chiefs all game.

Most memorable play: Philly Special. Other teams have ran that play since and essentially got Eagles Super Bowl in 2017.

Yea that NFCCG was not looking good prior to the Robinson play but after that we never looked back. 

But pretty much agree w all those. I liked "we all we got we all we need" but let's hunt is more to the point lol and as awesome as this post season run was idk if anything ever takes the place of Philly Special 

On 3/21/2025 at 12:04 PM, SkippyX said:

Wrong Century

LOL. Many folks don't know that the 21st century didn't begin until 2001. While we're on the subject, the Eagles have had more Super Bowl wins this century than the Cowboys, Commanders, and Packers, and the same amount as the Steelers.  

On 3/22/2025 at 7:18 AM, NJWolverEagle11 said:

Kinda like the 01 hurricanes woulda been 8-4 had they never scored an offensive TD

The 1976 Steelers gave up 28 points in their last 9 regular season game. (5 shutouts) That's 3.1 points per game!

They won the first playoff game 40-14 but got mangled by injuries and the Madden Raiders finally beat them.

5 hours ago, JamesK said:

LOL. Many folks don't know that the 21st century didn't begin until 2001. While we're on the subject, the Eagles have had more Super Bowl wins this century than the Cowboys, Commanders, and Packers, and the same amount as the Steelers.  

Eagles and Chiefs franchise before during and after Andy Reid.

Its insane for anyone to do that once. Reid did it twice.

Was jus watching highlights from 17 nfccg and pre 52 hype. Still gets the eyes watery if that's worth anything in this debate

I can't decide. 

1960 Eagles beat Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers with Bart Starr and the packer sweep. Fuzzy Thurston. They go on to become a dynasty.

2018. Eagles beat Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, the Goat.

2025. Eagles beat Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes, the best in the NFL.

That's a pretty good track record. You have to beat the best to be the Best.

I'm gonna go with 2018. The First Super Bowl. It holds the most meaning. It washed away 50 years of pain, suffering, frustration, anger, malaise, and defeat. 2018 takes the cake for me.

On 3/23/2025 at 2:36 PM, eagle45 said:

I understand you are basing it on talent on the field, but I still can't wrap my head around a team that won being behind two teams that lost.

It's tough...and if you asked about impact to the city and the fan base then the 2017/18 team would be far and away the best. But, a huge part of that in my opinion was that they were real underdogs, playing with a backup QB and nobody expected them to go that far.

There is no "right answer” to this, unless of course you chose my answer.

Seriously though, both teams have special meaning and are both great in different regards. I would say the 2017 offense was better by a small bit but the 2024 defense was better by a huge margin.

The first is always special, but just destroying Reid, Mahomes and KC was just so friggin awesome!

23 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

1960 Eagles beat Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers with Bart Starr and the packer sweep. Fuzzy Thurston. They go on to become a dynasty.

2018. Eagles beat Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, the Goat.

2025. Eagles beat Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes, the best in the NFL.

That's a pretty good track record. You have to beat the best to be the Best.

I'm gonna go with 2018. The First Super Bowl. It holds the most meaning. It washed away 50 years of pain, suffering, frustration, anger, malaise, and defeat. 2018 takes the cake for me.

Since it the only one of the three I went to in person, I choose 1960.

On 4/15/2025 at 8:19 PM, jsdarkstar said:

1960 Eagles beat Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers with Bart Starr and the packer sweep. Fuzzy Thurston. They go on to become a dynasty.

2018. Eagles beat Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, the Goat.

2025. Eagles beat Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes, the best in the NFL.

That's a pretty good track record. You have to beat the best to be the Best.

I'm gonna go with 2018. The First Super Bowl. It holds the most meaning. It washed away 50 years of pain, suffering, frustration, anger, malaise, and defeat. 2018 takes the cake for me.

Each of the Eagles past three NFL titles prevented three peats by the team they beat

2024 had more talent overall but both teams were very good and won it all and that’s what matters.