April 2Apr 2 1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: From Florio: But the MOFO had no problem wishing and hoping and trying to rig a 3rd championship in a row for the Chiefs. He is a hypocrite.
April 2Apr 2 What needs to be called out to Goodell in an interview is why the vote was tabled. If the reports are true, it is complete BS that it was postponed because there weren't enough votes to ban it. "Oh, we don't have 24 votes to ban it? Let's think about this some more and postpone until May" If there were 24 votes to ban it, would they have voted then? W T F Goodell seems to be in favor of the ban so he is catering to either his own desire along with those who want it banned. And wants to allow more time to lobby to get more teams on "his" side.
April 2Apr 2 So it looks like they might try to get all pushing banned for safety reasons. At that point an assist on a tackle is also dangerous and could involve pushing so only 1 person can try to tackle a player at any one time. Its all about the player safety.
April 2Apr 2 Author 11 hours ago, time2rock said: There is no data to prove the first point is a concern (ZERO injuries linked to the play). And the "pace of play" is another load of horsesheet. It all boils down to they can't stop it so they want it banned. Bunch of f****** pu$$ies. How quickly we forget what happened to Jordan Howard when he was with the Eagles. He was a power back used late in games and in short yardage situations. His career was cut short by stingers. I would think a play like the tush push would cut down on stingers and that type of injury.
April 3Apr 3 13 hours ago, Procus said: How quickly we forget what happened to Jordan Howard when he was with the Eagles. He was a power back used late in games and in short yardage situations. His career was cut short by stingers. I would think a play like the tush push would cut down on stingers and that type of injury. The NFL does have rules in place about leading with a helmet --- even for ball-carriers. What is getting me here is the implication of "player safety" without data and specific wording that only makes the pushing "bad" if it's immediately on the "QB" at the snap. I can't for the life of me figure out why this concept would promote a "safer" QB sneak. That's what needs to be explained. I've seen quite a few QBs (Purdy for example) get concussed on a traditional QB sneak.
April 3Apr 3 On 4/2/2025 at 11:33 AM, EagleJoe8 said: Every excuse given to ban it is BS. The real reasoning is simple. The Eagles, despite just having won the SB, and not a team rich with championship history, and Jalen Hurts is not someone who is the face of the league. This play would not be in question if the Cowboys, Steelers or Patriots were running it. It would not be questioned if Mahomes were running it. It’s 100% jealousy. When Tom Brady did it, it wasn't a problem.
April 3Apr 3 Eagles should get their media team to compile clips of other teams having players push a RB or WR to help them get a 1st down. Should that be banned too? What about multiple defenders tackling a player and the mob on both sides pushing to get/stop a 1st down or TD? The arguments about aesthetics is the dumbest thing I've heard. The QB can throw the ball away into the stands to avoid a sack on one play, but get intentional grounding on another. Kneeling to end the game isn't "aesthetic" either nor a "football play." The Chiefs can spin around in a circle when coming out of the huddle, Mahomes can sling side arm passes or toss the ball up in the air when he's about to get hit and he's "Magic Mahomes." Not a single argument against the play is valid. There's no data about injuries. They simply hate that they can't stop it, and especially that it's the Eagles. They'd LOVE it if it were Mahomes. If Travis Kelce were pushing Mahomes it would be the main NFL highlight in marketing and Taylor Swift would make a song about it.
April 3Apr 3 This is probably the best place to place this (rather than starting a new thread): Lawyers will likely nudge the league to dump the tush push Even if concerns about injury and aesthetics have become embarrassing pretexts for dumping the tush push, the effort to nudge the play out of the rule book has likely started the clock on the official expiration of the technique. By flagging the play as a catastrophic injury waiting to happen, the league has (intentionally or not) activated the legal bat signal. As noted by Kalyn Kahler of ESPN.com in an excellent postmortem on the tush push escapades in Palm Beach, NFL chief medical officer Allen Sills harped on the injury risk, to league staff, the Competition Committee, coaches, and owners. "It’s all about health and safety,” an unnamed owner told ESPN.com. "[Dr. Sills said], ‘It’s not if but when a catastrophic injury occurs.’” When incoming general counsel Ted Ullyot sees that quote, the die will be cast; he’ll say they need to get rid of the play before someone literally dies. Even if the data doesn’t support it, Sills’s adoption of a hair-on-fire posture (possibly at the nudging of those who want to kill the play, including the Commissioner) becomes a massive problem for the league if/when a serious injury happens during a tush-push play. It’s why the NFL changed the kickoff, even if they never say it out loud. They wanted to eliminate the very real risk of (another) catastrophic injury when two large, strong men run in opposite directions at top speed and collide. They have. By introducing the vague possibility of a catastrophic injury on the tush push, the eventual reality (if it happens) of a catastrophic injury makes those remarks a goldmine for proof of league liability. For that reason alone, it now seems obvious for the first time that the anti-tush push forces will get what they want. Especially since the push doesn’t really change what fundamentally is a very effective quarterback sneak. Indeed, the Eagles will still run the sneak. And they’ll do it very well. If/when a serious injury happens, the notion that it happened during the inherently dangerous tush-push play will be off the table and unavailable to the lawyer who is hired to obtain maximum compensation for the player who suffered it. There it is. Game over for the tush push. And the lawyers will be the ones who make it happen — especially since that advice will mesh with what the league office seemingly wants to do, anyway. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/lawyers-will-likely-nudge-the-league-to-dump-the-tush-push
April 3Apr 3 The injury excuse is BS. There is no data that it causes injury. The Eagles have not had injuries from it. Lurie even said that the way they do it actually protects the QB more than the regular QB sneak. They keep using the argument "potential for injury" which makes no sense, the entire game of football has the potential for injury. Andy Reid cited Jason Kelce trying to suggest it was bad for players, but Kelce never said it caused injury he just said it sucked being at the bottom of the pile...same with a sack, fumble recovery, RB running the ball on short yardage or other plays. It's all BS because they hate Philly and hate that they have a play that is close to a 90% success rate and they can't stop it.
April 4Apr 4 On 4/3/2025 at 4:03 PM, NOTW said: The injury excuse is BS. There is no data that it causes injury. The Eagles have not had injuries from it. Lurie even said that the way they do it actually protects the QB more than the regular QB sneak. They keep using the argument "potential for injury" which makes no sense, the entire game of football has the potential for injury. Andy Reid cited Jason Kelce trying to suggest it was bad for players, but Kelce never said it caused injury he just said it sucked being at the bottom of the pile...same with a sack, fumble recovery, RB running the ball on short yardage or other plays. It's all BS because they hate Philly and hate that they have a play that is close to a 90% success rate and they can't stop it. In all fairness the eagles themselves hate the play and running it. Its just to successful to not run it
April 6Apr 6 Author On 4/3/2025 at 4:03 PM, NOTW said: The injury excuse is BS. There is no data that it causes injury. The Eagles have not had injuries from it. Lurie even said that the way they do it actually protects the QB more than the regular QB sneak. They keep using the argument "potential for injury" which makes no sense, the entire game of football has the potential for injury. Andy Reid cited Jason Kelce trying to suggest it was bad for players, but Kelce never said it caused injury he just said it sucked being at the bottom of the pile...same with a sack, fumble recovery, RB running the ball on short yardage or other plays. It's all BS because they hate Philly and hate that they have a play that is close to a 90% success rate and they can't stop it. If you want to reduce the potential for injury, don't go to an 18 game schedule. Stop the dynamic kick bs and put the ball back on the 20 for a touchback on a kickoff. Better yet, since football is an inherent unsafe sport, just shut down the league. But don't give us this prospective injury bs.
April 7Apr 7 4 hours ago, time2rock said: ^^^^^^^^ Poster child for the biggest pu$$y in the NFL. He was a Redskin, so hating the Eagles is in his blood. Anything to hurt us, he'll be all for.
April 8Apr 8 Author On 4/3/2025 at 2:44 PM, NOTW said: Eagles should get their media team to compile clips of other teams having players push a RB or WR to help them get a 1st down. Should that be banned too? reports are that the proposal will be revised to ban all pushing
April 8Apr 8 9 hours ago, Procus said: reports are that the proposal will be revised to ban all pushing Good luck enforcing that! There are so many plays other than the "Tush Push" that involve pushing. Goal line plays, fighting for that extra yard or 2 to get a 1st down, etc., where other players push or pull the ball carrier to assist in that effort. This is ridiculous.
Create an account or sign in to comment