Didn't have the votes to ban, and Packers' proposal was poorly worded, so the NFL might take this up again during May meetings - or not

Stupid- just make a freekin decision and be done with this sheeeiiit.

It's just a frickin QB sneak!!! The NFL will ban THAT play too??!!! 

Oh let's extend the season to 18 games, but that won't have any affect on players health. But this one play, ran maybe 3x a game, will affect players health. SMFH.

I'm almost ready to just have it banned so people can stop whining about it. With our line and Hurts at QB/Barkley at RB, we'll be an elite short yardage team with or without it. 

Ja’Marr Chase is really really good at catching the football.  The NFL should make that illegal too.  

The better the Eagles are at doing it, the more likely they'll ban it... unless someone comes up with a way to stop it or other teams get better at it. 

It's coming, just don't know when. Maybe we can squeeze another Lombardi out of it first, though. 

Better ban the no look pass and the sidearm throw too. 

Looks like this is headed toward some sort of reinstatement of the ban on pushing that was historically in place prior to 2005.  If that happens, it kills the tush push.  Goodell seems to be lining up in favor of going back to the way things were.  This created the perfect loophole for the Eagles to exploit, and credit the team for taking full advantage.  By from what I'm reading, the tush push may be on life support.

 

 

43 minutes ago, Procus said:

Goodell seems to be lining up in favor of going back to the way things were.

He doesn't matter to it though, it's whether 24 owners vote to ban it. Which will likely happen at some point. If not this year, maybe next. I expect it. 

So can we use it or is there another vote in May?

I recall reading about when they were all horrified at an idea presented to them- the forward pass. They were all in an uproar over that before it became a legal play. A lot of owners are just stupid when it it comes to the actual GAME.

From grok

10 hours ago, Procus said:

From grok

There is no data to prove the first point is a concern (ZERO injuries linked to the play).  And the "pace of play" is another load of horsesheet.  It all boils down to they can't stop it so they want it banned.  Bunch of f****** pu$$ies.  

So what I’ve heard (via WIP) is that they’ve pushed the decision back to May, is that right? Basically there wasn’t the support to ban it but they want to spend the next month or two gathering a storm and momentum so they can ban it.

Honestly it’s pathetic. These teams can’t stop it so instead they want to ban it. There’s no data to suggest it causes injuries. In fact it was interesting what Lurie said about the play that they worked on it to protect the QB. It gives the QB more protection and support around him to reduce the risk of the QB getting injured. Also it can’t be about injuries when the league just voted to essentially encourage more kick off returns when not long ago they tried focused on making it safer.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So what I’ve heard (via WIP) is that they’ve pushed the decision back to May, is that right? Basically there wasn’t the support to ban it but they want to spend the next month or two gathering a storm and momentum so they can ban it.

Honestly it’s pathetic. These teams can’t stop it so instead they want to ban it. There’s no data to suggest it causes injuries. In fact it was interesting what Lurie said about the play that they worked on it to protect the QB. It gives the QB more protection and support around him to reduce the risk of the QB getting injured. Also it can’t be about injuries when the league just voted to essentially encourage more kick off returns when not long ago they tried focused on making it safer.

They asked GB to go back and think about re-wording the proposal (many thought the way it is worded now doesn't really make the play illegal).  Goodell fed them nuggets about pushing/pulling players - making that illegal (as it once had been).  

Ban the tush push play because "it leads to more injuries" (even though there is no data to support that).

Also the NFL ... let's add an 18th game.

Such a hypocritical league.  

8 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Ban the tush push play because "it leads to more injuries" (even though there is no data to support that).

Also the NFL ... let's add an 18th game.

Such a hypocritical league.  

They need the 18th game to get more injury data on the tush-push.

52 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So what I’ve heard (via WIP) is that they’ve pushed the decision back to May, is that right? Basically there wasn’t the support to ban it but they want to spend the next month or two gathering a storm and momentum so they can ban it.

Honestly it’s pathetic. These teams can’t stop it so instead they want to ban it. There’s no data to suggest it causes injuries. In fact it was interesting what Lurie said about the play that they worked on it to protect the QB. It gives the QB more protection and support around him to reduce the risk of the QB getting injured. Also it can’t be about injuries when the league just voted to essentially encourage more kick off returns when not long ago they tried focused on making it safer.

I literally just said that same thing the other day.  They changed rules to encourage fewer kick returns because it had concussion injury data.  Now they're changing the rules again encouraging more returns.  All while citing "health and safety" to ban a play that has 0 injury data.  W T F

2 hours ago, time2rock said:

They asked GB to go back and think about re-wording the proposal (many thought the way it is worded now doesn't really make the play illegal).  Goodell fed them nuggets about pushing/pulling players - making that illegal (as it once had been).  

Ah okay so in other words go away and write it this certain way and then we will put it to a vote. And in the meantime we will push the agenda with teams to get it banned.

1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

I literally just said that same thing the other day.  They changed rules to encourage fewer kick returns because it had concussion injury data.  Now they're changing the rules again encouraging more returns.  All while citing "health and safety" to ban a play that has 0 injury data.  W T F

And add a 18th game as @time2rock points out. It’s all BS.

Goodell doesn't like that the Eagles are at the top of the NFC right now and the Cowboys and Giants aren't. He wants it gone because he hates that the Eagles have an unstoppable play that directly impacts the Cowboys and Giants negatively. If the Cowboys were he ones who mastered this play, he'd be in full on support of keeping it around.

The Cowboys btw haven't play an overseas game in over 10 years. And when they do, the NFL will never take a home game away from them.

From Florio:

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On the tush push, what does Roger Goodell want?

By Mike Florio

Published April 2, 2025 09:38 AM

 

Whenever someone asks about the longtime hammerlock Rich McKay has had on the Competition Committee, the answer is simple.

McKay, as the belief goes in league circles, continues to chair the Committee because the Commissioner wants him to. And, as the belief also goes, the Commissioner wants McKay in that position because McKay ultimately delivers whatever the Commissioner wants.

And so the question becomes, as it relates to the sudden story of the offseason, what does Roger Goodell want when it comes to the tush push?

With the NFL going full-blown red state/blue state on the issue, it’s highly unlikely that Goodell is a neutral observer. And his comments from Tuesday point to his preference. He apparently wants the NFL to bring back the rule that prohibits any pushing of the player with the ball.

"I think that makes a lot of sense in many ways because that expands it beyond that single play,” Goodell said. "There are a lot of plays where you see people pushing or pulling somebody that are not in the tush push formation that I think do have an increased risk of injury. So I think the Committee will look at that and come back in May with some proposals.”

A rule against any and all pushing would seem to be less about the tush push and more about addressing whether it’s safe and proper for a player to be pushing a teammate with the football. Some would say, for example, having an offensive lineman barrel down the field at full speed and slam into the pile in an effort to push it past the line to gain raises even greater risks than the tush push does.

But the context is obvious. It’s all about taking away something the Eagles do better than anyone. And the goalposts are moving from safety to aesthetics to justify the basic reality that some teams don’t like the fact that the Eagles are kicking everyone’s ass.

Why would the Commissioner care about that? Parity is good for the NFL. If fans of the other 31 teams believe the Eagles will continue to run roughshod over the league — fueled by a go-to move that makes short-yardage plays a near-automatic win — those fans might be less engaged in all things football.

To be as popular as possible, and to make as much money as possible, the league needs to have all fans of all teams believe that every team has a chance, every year. Currently, there’s a small handful of true contenders. And the Eagles stand out among them. On the heels of back-to-back Super Bowl wins by the Chiefs, we’re looking at two (and maybe three) in a row by the Eagles.

That’s reason enough for the Commissioner to want to stir things up. To give more teams a chance. And to take away the cheat code that is available to all teams but only one of which has figured out.

 

Every excuse given to ban it is BS. The real reasoning is simple. 
 

The Eagles, despite just having won the SB, and not a team rich with championship history, and Jalen Hurts is not someone who is the face of the league. This play would not be in question if the Cowboys, Steelers or Patriots were running it. It would not be questioned if Mahomes were running it. It’s 100% jealousy. 

I said this in the blog too but here is an analogy on Goodell's complete lack of power and influence among NFL owners.

Lets say the Senate is voting and its 50/50 but they need 60 to break the fillibuster. They all sit down to a banquet for lunch.

Can the waiter convince 10 of them to vote for the law? Of course not.

Goodell is just a waiter for the owners. He's a shoe shine boy. They throw him 10m worth of nickels. He's a mudflap on their truck, lots of dirt hits him.

Yosemite Sam on the mudflap does not tell the truck driver where to turn.

 

The odds of him changing 8 votes are zero.