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I've just been reading a story that some Eagles players and coaches have been promoting something called Life Surge. Seems to be a pretty unsavoury prosperity gospel (if that's the right term). Those promoting it include Sirianni, Saquon, BG, Coop and Dawkins.

Anyone know anything about this? Is it being reported in other places? Seems a bit disappointing they would be involved in what seems to be pretty scammy. Here's a link https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jun/02/life-surge-philadelphia-eagles-conference-evangelical-money-finance

The entirety of all religions are, by nature, scams. This is just another offshoot of the basic religion scam.

On 6/13/2025 at 5:35 AM, kiwinavega said:

Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, please feel free to move.

I've just been reading a story that some Eagles players and coaches have been promoting something called Life Surge. Seems to be a pretty unsavoury prosperity gospel (if that's the right term). Those promoting it include Sirianni, Saquon, BG, Coop and Dawkins.

Anyone know anything about this? Is it being reported in other places? Seems a bit disappointing they would be involved in what seems to be pretty scammy. Here's a link https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jun/02/life-surge-philadelphia-eagles-conference-evangelical-money-finance

If the concept interests anybody, I would encourage them to seek more reviews than just one from the guardian. It's not hard to find a perspective (for anything) that may not be entirely fair or written by someone unwilling to give a fair take. Here's one from someone that was at least willing to hear them out first: https://blog.biblewiki.com/p/a-review-of-life-surge-christian-wealth.html

It sounds like the "event" could have some good speakers with some good Christian messages. However, it also sounds like those speakers aren't really part of the program and are just paid "big names" to help draw more people in. That should be a red flag for anybody reaching for their wallets. It's wise for anybody, including Christians to learn how to be better stewards of their finances and everybody should research what investments may or may not align with their values. But there should be loads of free resources available out there that aren't having to rely on big fame to draw crowds.

https://www.howtomoney.com/ is a pretty good podcast that mostly avoids politics to help people understand what things they can do.

I would say that there is only one financial lesson to learn from, "Give me $1000 and I'll teach you how to make $1000." I mean ... some things are just too obvious.

p.s. I'm calling bull on the "Amy Wolfe" $12M story ... I would have believed $12K, but anybody with $12M doesn't need a financial mentorship.

I mean, that's all fair comment I guess. It's perhaps bevause this kind of monetised evangelism is alien to me that I find it weird and creepy. We don't have it in Spain as far as I am able to see (Catholic Church aside lol) and we never really had it in the UK unless it came from Africa (mostly Nigeria). I just question why very wealthy Eagles luminaries thought this was worth getting caught up in. It's not like they need the money. And for those really religious among that crew, camels and needles spring to mind. So what's the motivation?

On 6/14/2025 at 11:23 AM, kiwinavega said:

I mean, that's all fair comment I guess. It's perhaps bevause this kind of monetised evangelism is alien to me that I find it weird and creepy. We don't have it in Spain as far as I am able to see (Catholic Church aside lol) and we never really had it in the UK unless it came from Africa (mostly Nigeria). I just question why very wealthy Eagles luminaries thought this was worth getting caught up in. It's not like they need the money. And for those really religious among that crew, camels and needles spring to mind. So what's the motivation?

There are always going to be people trying to make money and there are always going to be people that want to learn how. Barkley, Siriani, BG, Dawkins, etc ... have agents and that's what they (the agents) are employed to do. So they aren't being asked to "speak" as much as they are just being asked to "draw people in" with their celebrity.

I honestly don't know anything about Life Surge other than what the articles are saying. Christians have an obligation to test what they are hearing by comparing it to Biblical text. Smooth-talking people with prosperity doctrines have been taking advantage of people looking to get their ears scratched for decades. Just based on the reports, it sounds pretty sketchy. But without hearing an account from someone maybe helped by Life Surge, what other conclusion should you expect? Instead of hearing success stories, they choose to promote by using famous people that amassed wealth without Life Surge. That's a huge red flag to me and I would tend to be very skeptical.

In the end, most people probably attend just to get autographs of famous people.