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11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

You're using a single outlier to try and prove your point. RCV has been used successfully for multiple elections in Alaska and have helped deliver moderate candidates like Murkowski who fended off an extreme Trump backed GOP candidate.

Maine has also had RCV for multiple election cycles.

Virginia GOP used RCV in Youngkin's primary win.

In the NYC mayoral general RCV would give a better path to defeating Mamdani by not forcing the collective opposition to his candidacy to try and arrange for a single candidate. If both Adams and Cuomo were to run against Mamdani for example, voters that would split between them could rank Adams and Cuomo in no particular order 1 and 2 on their ballots and whichever gets the most votes would survive to round 2 to pick up the majority of those who voted for the alternative.

I would be OK with the Alaska system, which is VERY different. They did a jungle primary where everyone (Dems, Republicans and independents) ran against each other and the top 4 went to the general election. Then Murkowski won - she was in first after round 1 as well. California does something similar for Senate - a jungle primary where the top 2 go on to the general election.

Using RCV when you have 10 candidates running, asking people to rank all of them, is mass confusion that causes voters to be disenfranchised and rejected.

This was the ballot in 2022 in Oakland - this is hard to follow for anyone, let alone those who speak English.

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The 3rd place finisher was De La Fuente, the only hispanic candidate who won the Latino vote. He got around 13k votes in round 1….and then over 6k of those were exhausted because his voters didn’t rank anyone else. That swung the election to Thao over Taylor.

A MUCH better system would have been to have the top 2 go to a runoff so those that were confused got to have their vote count.

How is it confusing? You number the candidates in order of preference. Even a dope like me can figure it out.

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if he gets elected, nyc deserves the ramifications.

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

if he gets elected, nyc deserves the ramifications.

Don't worry, Trump says he's going to have the federal government take control of the city.

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

Don't worry, Trump says he's going to have the federal government take control of the city.

oh yeah, i forgot about that claim. nothing says "end federal gov overreach" more than we are going to take over your city because you're stupid.

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17 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

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Look at it, Sarah. Look at it. He pardoned the people who did this, and you cheered.

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