Gannan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Yes. You read that correctly. Quote Health officials are alarmed as a pandemic adviser reportedly pushes the White House to adopt Sweden's controversial herd immunity strategy. Neuroradiologist Scott Atlas, a top medical adviser to President Trump, has reportedly urged the White House to implement a pandemic strategy of trying to protect vulnerable groups while letting COVID-19 spread through most of the country so that healthy people can build up immunity to the virus, modeling the way Sweden has responded to the coronavirus crisis. Atlas, who reportedly meets with Trump nearly every day, doesn't have a background in infectious diseases or epidemiology. Health experts are highly concerned about herd immunity being discussed by the White House, because by some estimates, it may require 2.13 million U.S. deaths to reach a 65 percent threshold of immunity. So crackpot who has no background in infectious diseases or epidemiology wants the government to intentionally infect us all. Hopefully in time for the election. Grandma must die for Trump's re-election. Brought to you by the party of "pro life". 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanh8 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 That's been the strategy from the start with him doing absolutely nothing. He's only now making it an official policy position. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Can’t wait until Trump makes us a third-rate power like Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Was wondering when this was going to come up as an idea for the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynched1 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 If anything I should have caught it by now but I can't find anyone who's had it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPeeteRules Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Kind of misleading title considering nowhere does it say that Trump wants to do this. If he has multiple advisors and they disagree about a subject, does that mean that Trump both supports and is against that item? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toastrel Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Trump is holding rallies without masks or distancing. He doesn't care if he kills his supporters. We know he cares nothing for the rest of us, he has made that clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: Kind of misleading title considering nowhere does it say that Trump wants to do this. If he has multiple advisors and they disagree about a subject, does that mean that Trump both supports and is against that item? Generally I'd agree, but if it's true he's meeting with Trump daily then he might be currently in favor. The case of reinfection out of HK put the nail in the coffin of natural herd immunity. Immunity will only be achievable through vaccination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynched1 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Trump is holding rallies without masks or distancing. Just wait until they start rioting, looting, and burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: Kind of misleading title considering nowhere does it say that Trump wants to do this. Tell that to Herman Cain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: Tell that to Herman Cain! So was Herman Cain a trial balloon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: So was Herman Cain a trial balloon? Some will have to be sacrificed for the glory of MAGA! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglegenius Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 55 minutes ago, RPeeteRules said: Kind of misleading title considering nowhere does it say that Trump wants to do this. If he has multiple advisors and they disagree about a subject, does that mean that Trump both supports and is against that item? It's what the Demz want... why CNN has been the "Covid News Network" since the pandemic arrived. Up until being forced to address the crime issue by (un)popular opinion, covid was all they had. Even CNN'S daily corona count shows the global death rate at 1 in 30 of the infected, while the US rate is 10% better at 1 in 33, yet they continue claiming the US is performing the worst of all countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gannan said: Some will have to be sacrificed for the glory of MAGA! reminds me of this one: 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwieagle Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, eaglegenius said: It's what the Demz want... why CNN has been the "Covid News Network" since the pandemic arrived. Up until being forced to address the crime issue by (un)popular opinion, covid was all they had. Even CNN'S daily corona count shows the global death rate at 1 in 30 of the infected, while the US rate is 10% better at 1 in 33, yet they continue claiming the US is performing the worst of all countries. Now do the same with deaths / population. Saving very slightly more of those infected but letting it spread like wildfire isn’t something to celebrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, kiwieagle said: Now do the same with deaths / population. Saving very slightly more of those infected but letting it spread like wildfire isn’t something to celebrate What was that stat recently, we have 4% of the worlds population and 10% of the worlds deaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, eaglegenius said: It's what the Demz want... why CNN has been the "Covid News Network" since the pandemic arrived. Up until being forced to address the crime issue by (un)popular opinion, covid was all they had. Even CNN'S daily corona count shows the global death rate at 1 in 30 of the infected, while the US rate is 10% better at 1 in 33, yet they continue claiming the US is performing the worst of all countries. because our deaths keep piling up while other nations have slowed to near zero. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-million?tab=chart&year=2020-04-28&country=ITA~KOR~ESP~SWE~GBR~USA Nothing is "made up" here. We have handled this very poorly because some states are following Trump's lead by sticking their heads in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPeeteRules Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Gannan said: Tell that to Herman Cain! I don’t think I can tell him that one of Trump’s advisors thoughts doesn’t mean Trump has the same thought. Trump very well may believe it the herd immunity thing, but nowhere in your post did Trump say he wants to give you Covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglegenius Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 56 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: because our deaths keep piling up while other nations have slowed to near zero. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-million?tab=chart&year=2020-04-28&country=ITA~KOR~ESP~SWE~GBR~USA Nothing is "made up" here. We have handled this very poorly because some states are following Trump's lead by sticking their heads in the sand. WTF dude? Every other country on that chart has higher rates than the US. Which proves you ignore the facts and declare nonsense! In case you're color challenged, that's Spain at the top and the US on the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzmattzx Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Can’t wait until Trump makes us a third-rate power like Sweden. Bernie Sanders will get his wish! Do it the Nordic way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, eaglegenius said: WTF dude? Every other country on that chart has higher rates than the US. Which proves you ignore the facts and declare nonsense! In case you're color challenged, that's Spain at the top and the US on the bottom. Yeah no ish dude. I specifically picked the nations that had the worst outbreaks of COVID-19. All of their deaths are concentrated near the beginning of the outbreaks. Look at their lines now. They're flat. They're not getting a large number of new deaths. Meanwhile the US keeps climbing with no sign of ebbing/flattening. We do not have control of it. We will very soon pass these worst hit nations and - unless something changes - continue right past. We were in a position where we could have been largely unscathed by this. It hit Asia and Europe before it got here. But no, we had to squander our natural advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglegenius Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah no ish dude. I specifically picked the nations that had the worst outbreaks of COVID-19. All of their deaths are concentrated near the beginning of the outbreaks. Look at their lines now. They're flat. They're not getting a large number of new deaths. Meanwhile the US keeps climbing with no sign of ebbing/flattening. We do not have control of it. We will very soon pass these worst hit nations and - unless something changes - continue right past. We were in a position where we could have been largely unscathed by this. It hit Asia and Europe before it got here. But no, we had to squander our natural advantage. The rates have been fluctuating all over the world. Even countries in Central Europe are closing their borders left and right, banning travel from various nations on the continent. If you think it'll be any different under Biden, guess again. People are refusing to wear masks, 35% have declared they won't get a vaccine even after it's gone through phase 3 testing, and college students are holding big parties without masks or distancing which is contributing to the rise. You can't outlaw stupidity. I'm not even a Trump supporter. I just see dirty politics on both sides. And using covid as the big club to knock down the door to the white house doesn't do it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I'll take my chances with the guy who will listen to doctors and not actively trying to divide the nation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesfandan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Gannan said: Tell that to Herman Cain! 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: So was Herman Cain a trial balloon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, RPeeteRules said: I don’t think I can tell him that one of Trump’s advisors thoughts doesn’t mean Trump has the same thought. Trump very well may believe it the herd immunity thing, but nowhere in your post did Trump say he wants to give you Covid. Well I’d say it’s probably closer to the truth than "Joe Biden wants to eliminate the suburbs”. Yes folks, the irony here is that Gannan from the EMB is being held to a much higher standard than the president of the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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