JFC

On 9/2/2021 at 10:52 PM, DEagle7 said:

 

JFC

Well, maybe there’s a pattern of, gee I dunno, bullying. They’re defending themselves from a lawsuit and have a legal right to find evidence. 

3 hours ago, Bill said:

Well, maybe there’s a pattern of, gee I dunno, bullying. They’re defending themselves from a lawsuit and have a legal right to find evidence. 

Bullying? No one is arguing that they don't have a legal right to look at information, but these were 6 year old.  What possible relevance could the attendance/disciplinary records of a 6 year old have on the case?

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Bullying? No one is arguing that they don't have a legal right to look at information, but these were 6 year old.  What possible relevance could the attendance/disciplinary records of a 6 year old have on the case?

Oh NVM, I was thinking Parkland. 
 

Yeah, not sure, but they do have a right to a defense of the civil suit. 

I have a reloading question. My brother bought some .224 bullets for reloading. I'm not sure if he bought them by mistake or on someone's advice. They're for a 5.56/.223 rifle.

Can they be reloaded into 5.56/.223 brass for a 5.56/.223 barrel? 

On 9/4/2021 at 11:30 PM, DEagle7 said:

Bullying? No one is arguing that they don't have a legal right to look at information, but these were 6 year old.  What possible relevance could the attendance/disciplinary records of a 6 year old have on the case?

 

I can see their argument now.

Johnny was a bully and received detention 3 times. He deserved to die.
Suzy, smoked in the bathroom and was suspended for a week. She deserved to die.
Jake skipped school and got suspended for a day. He deserved to die.

Those kids families don't deserve any money because their kids are delinquents who asked for it.

Billy Bob got caught with gun in his locker. No action taken. He has a job at Remington waiting for him when he turns 18.

2 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I have a reloading question. My brother bought some .224 bullets for reloading. I'm not sure if he bought them by mistake or on someone's advice. They're for a 5.56/.223 rifle.

Can they be reloaded into 5.56/.223 brass for a 5.56/.223 barrel? 

I don't believe so. .22 cal bullets are normally used for .223. sounds like a great excuse to go but a .224 Valkarie though

2 hours ago, BFit said:

I don't believe so. .22 cal bullets are normally used for .223. sounds like a great excuse to go but a .224 Valkarie though

He bought 6 boxes of the bullets because someone said that they would work in a 5.56. Me? I don't want to stray away from what's supposed to be used. .223 is ok, I know that. But I'm not at all familiar with .224. 

Of course, like you said, it could be a good excuse to just build a .224 upper to fit the lower. 

Didn't the 224 kinda fall off the face of the earth? 

Everyone is on the 6.X bandwagon now 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-half-bald-golden-eagles-190100648.html

Nearly half of bald and golden eagles in the US have chronic lead poisoning, most likely from bullet fragments

• Nearly half of bald and golden eagles in the US have chronic lead poisoning, a new study found.

• Eagles scavenge the remains of hunted animals, which carry lead fragments from bullets.

• Lead poisoning threatens to slow their population growth.

It's a common pattern during hunting season in the winter: Hunters shoot elk or deer, then eagles scavenge the waste.

That scavenged meal may have deadly consequences for eagles, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Science.

The researchers detected high rates of lead poisoning among the two most common types of eagles in the US, bald eagles and golden eagles, from 2010 to 2018. Their findings suggest that eagles are ingesting lead fragments from bullets in animal carcasses left behind by hunters.

"Every single time a lead bullet hits a deer, it fragments into many, many pieces," Todd Katzner, a research wildlife biologist at the US Geological Survey and co-author of the study, told Insider. "It only takes a tiny fragment, something the size of the head of a pin, to kill an eagle."

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/03/05/washington-limits-on-sale-of-high-capacity-magazines/

The Washington Legislature has approved the prohibition of the manufacture, distribution and sale of firearm magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

The Seattle Times reported the measure passed on a 55-42 vote in the Democratic-held House late Friday night. The bill — which passed the state Senate last month — now heads to Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee for his signature.

The measure limits magazines for rifles that hold 20 or 30 rounds and for a host of pistols that carry more than 10 rounds. It does not prohibit the possession of such magazines.

The legislation — requested by Attorney General Bob Ferguson — includes exceptions to magazine limits for law enforcement and corrections officers, members of the armed forces, Washington’s National Guard and for licensed firearms dealers who sell to those institutions.

Violations would be a gross misdemeanor, which in Washington is punishable by up to 364 days in county jail, a maximum fine of up to $5,000, or both.

 

The legislation also makes the sale or offering for distribution or sale of a prohibited magazine a violation of Washington’s Consumer Protection Act. That law allows the attorney general’s office to take action on alleged violations of the act to get restitution and civil penalties.

In a legislative floor speech, Democratic Rep. Liz Berry recounted the mass shooting in 2011 during an event held by then-U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, a Democrat from Arizona, for whom Berry worked for at the time. Six people died in that attack, and 13 others, including Giffords, who was shot in the head, were injured.

"Gun violence is preventable, this bill will save lives,” said Berry.

The House vote on Friday fell along party lines, with nearly all Democrats voting in support. Republicans voted against it, and in a show of protest, forced the Democrats to spend hours debating potential amendments to the legislation.

"It is clear that the bill before us now impairs the right of the individual citizen to bear arms,” Republican Rep. Jesse Young said during the debate.

In a statement issued after the vote, Ferguson said Washington would join nine states that already restrict high-capacity magazines in some form.

Ferguson’s office noted that the Washington measure is like a Maryland measure because it focuses on the supply side and does not prohibit the possession of high-capacity magazines.

Just picked up a sweet S&W 10mm yesterday. Unfortunately I couldn't buy any ammo from my local dealer so I ordered that online can't wait to shoot that puppy.

On 2/17/2022 at 7:59 PM, jsdarkstar said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-half-bald-golden-eagles-190100648.html

Nearly half of bald and golden eagles in the US have chronic lead poisoning, most likely from bullet fragments

• Nearly half of bald and golden eagles in the US have chronic lead poisoning, a new study found.

• Eagles scavenge the remains of hunted animals, which carry lead fragments from bullets.

• Lead poisoning threatens to slow their population growth.

It's a common pattern during hunting season in the winter: Hunters shoot elk or deer, then eagles scavenge the waste.

That scavenged meal may have deadly consequences for eagles, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Science.

The researchers detected high rates of lead poisoning among the two most common types of eagles in the US, bald eagles and golden eagles, from 2010 to 2018. Their findings suggest that eagles are ingesting lead fragments from bullets in animal carcasses left behind by hunters.

"Every single time a lead bullet hits a deer, it fragments into many, many pieces," Todd Katzner, a research wildlife biologist at the US Geological Survey and co-author of the study, told Insider. "It only takes a tiny fragment, something the size of the head of a pin, to kill an eagle."

Since most hunters take the meat home and that's where to bullets are (if they stay in) I find this to be horse crap. The key word in this is "suggests".

10 minutes ago, greend said:

Since most hunters take the meat home and that's where to bullets are (if they stay in) I find this to be horse crap. The key word in this is "suggests".

I thought there was a big push against lead ammo years back.  Any hunters out there, is this still a thing ?

3 hours ago, Talkingbirds said:

I thought there was a big push against lead ammo years back.  Any hunters out there, is this still a thing ?

Lead is still a thing. You can't use it for waterfowl that's steel

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Lead is still a thing. You can't use it for waterfowl that's steel

i believe the states are eventually going to do away with any lead use in or near waterways. some already outlawed lead weights for fishing. that will eventually expand. 

On 3/9/2022 at 10:24 AM, Alpha_TATEr said:

i believe the states are eventually going to do away with any lead use in or near waterways. some already outlawed lead weights for fishing. that will eventually expand. 

Damn! And I'm just putting the finishing touches on my prototype lead-lined paddle boat.

 

Scenario:

A man in his 90's who has cancer and dementia lives alone in an apartment. The apartment below him catches fire and the building has to be evacuated and is now unlivable. He is in REALLY, REALLY poor health and may not ever go home again, either because of passing away or because of being placed in a nursing home. 

Said man own three rifles, nothing special, a bolt action, a lever action and another one that I'm not sure of. All valued at probably less than a few hundred dollars each. Nothing at all special. Not that that matters, they're all still rifles. 

A woman who was helping him, is at the apartment and notices the maintenance guys kind of rummaging through things and 'admiring this and that'. She says something that makes them leave. So she takes possession of the rifles and a few other items that would surely vanish, if she didn't. 

So now she is in possession of these rifles (in Maryland), strictly for safe keeping while the man is in the hospital and decisions can be made. 

Said woman takes said rifles to one of her friends homes for safekeeping, said friend is a family member of mine whose son in law has now frightened her into thinking that she's now a federal felon for being in possession of 'unlicensed firearms'.

What is the best way to deal with these rifles? My initial thought is that if the man can't go back to living on his own and can't re-take possession of the rifles, call the State Police and see how they suggest to proceed. 

Any thoughts?

1 minute ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Scenario:

A man in his 90's who has cancer and dementia lives alone in an apartment. The apartment below him catches fire and the building has to be evacuated and is now unlivable. He is in REALLY, REALLY poor health and may not ever go home again, either because of passing away or because of being placed in a nursing home. 

Said man own three rifles, nothing special, a bolt action, a lever action and another one that I'm not sure of. All valued at probably less than a few hundred dollars each. Nothing at all special. Not that that matters, they're all still rifles. 

A woman who was helping him, is at the apartment and notices the maintenance guys kind of rummaging through things and 'admiring this and that'. She says something that makes them leave. So she takes possession of the rifles and a few other items that would surely vanish, if she didn't. 

So now she is in possession of these rifles (in Maryland), strictly for safe keeping while the man is in the hospital and decisions can be made. 

Said woman takes said rifles to one of her friends homes for safekeeping, said friend is a family member of mine whose son in law has now frightened her into thinking that she's now a federal felon for being in possession of 'unlicensed firearms'.

What is the best way to deal with these rifles? My initial thought is that if the man can't go back to living on his own and can't re-take possession of the rifles, call the State Police and see how they suggest to proceed. 

Any thoughts?

Virginia?

https://vsp.virginia.gov/services/firearms/

There are phones numbers and links to email, they can probably point you in the right direction.

11 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Virginia?

Maryland

4 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Maryland

Kentucky ??

3 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Maryland

I guess the state police is a good way to go. No MD experience, myself.

24 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Scenario:

A man in his 90's who has cancer and dementia lives alone in an apartment. The apartment below him catches fire and the building has to be evacuated and is now unlivable. He is in REALLY, REALLY poor health and may not ever go home again, either because of passing away or because of being placed in a nursing home. 

Said man own three rifles, nothing special, a bolt action, a lever action and another one that I'm not sure of. All valued at probably less than a few hundred dollars each. Nothing at all special. Not that that matters, they're all still rifles. 

A woman who was helping him, is at the apartment and notices the maintenance guys kind of rummaging through things and 'admiring this and that'. She says something that makes them leave. So she takes possession of the rifles and a few other items that would surely vanish, if she didn't. 

So now she is in possession of these rifles (in Maryland), strictly for safe keeping while the man is in the hospital and decisions can be made. 

Said woman takes said rifles to one of her friends homes for safekeeping, said friend is a family member of mine whose son in law has now frightened her into thinking that she's now a federal felon for being in possession of 'unlicensed firearms'.

What is the best way to deal with these rifles? My initial thought is that if the man can't go back to living on his own and can't re-take possession of the rifles, call the State Police and see how they suggest to proceed. 

Any thoughts?

i mean, is it actually illegal for her to hang on to them? maryland cant be that backwards where merely possesing a rifle is illegal. im my opinion, if the state police get involved, those guns will never be seen again.....

55 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Scenario:

A man in his 90's who has cancer and dementia lives alone in an apartment. The apartment below him catches fire and the building has to be evacuated and is now unlivable. He is in REALLY, REALLY poor health and may not ever go home again, either because of passing away or because of being placed in a nursing home. 

Said man own three rifles, nothing special, a bolt action, a lever action and another one that I'm not sure of. All valued at probably less than a few hundred dollars each. Nothing at all special. Not that that matters, they're all still rifles. 

A woman who was helping him, is at the apartment and notices the maintenance guys kind of rummaging through things and 'admiring this and that'. She says something that makes them leave. So she takes possession of the rifles and a few other items that would surely vanish, if she didn't. 

So now she is in possession of these rifles (in Maryland), strictly for safe keeping while the man is in the hospital and decisions can be made. 

Said woman takes said rifles to one of her friends homes for safekeeping, said friend is a family member of mine whose son in law has now frightened her into thinking that she's now a federal felon for being in possession of 'unlicensed firearms'.

What is the best way to deal with these rifles? My initial thought is that if the man can't go back to living on his own and can't re-take possession of the rifles, call the State Police and see how they suggest to proceed. 

Any thoughts?

Does the man have any family? I think they could legally take them

36 minutes ago, BFit said:

maryland cant be that backwards

 

 

41 minutes ago, BFit said:

im my opinion, if the state police get involved, those guns will never be seen again....

I don't personally know this man, so they aren't 'family firearms' (for my family). Looking at the few pictures of them that I've seen, I have no real interest in them. If there was a parts correct, WWII "bring home" Garand or a 1903 (especially), or something of that sort, I'd be making offers to buy it/them. But I see nothing at all to desire to the point of going out if my way for and don't really care if they go to a 'chipper'. 

 

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Does the man have any family? I think they could legally take them

To my knowledge, no.