3 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I'd love to have a real A1, but no way at the prices of real ones. Actually, some of my A1 is real, just not the parts that make it an M16 (the lower and the fire control group). The upper, the furniture, the stock and the BCG are from a parts kit. The XM177E2 is 100% clone. I also had an M4 clone, but I wound up selling that to build the XM177E2. Come to think of it, I also sold an A2 upper assembly. I liked that rifle, but I never carried one and wanted a carbine version that matched the era of the A1. 

I'm not really 'into' the modern style ARs. Though I may end up getting an AR-10 at some point, but my M1A (dressed up in an M14 stock), kind of fills my .308 'need'.

What about modern AR's don't you like?

1 minute ago, Bill said:

What about modern AR's don't you like?

I wouldn't really say that I don't like them. I really like the AR platform. But I'm more into military 'history', even if only through 'clones'. My brother (one of my brothers), is the opposite. He's more into the modern iterations.

For me, I just love the feel of an A1 in my hands, but like I said, that's because I carried one in the Army, so that has a lot to do with that. The CAR-15 is just a rifle that I always thought was super cool looking when I was in my teens, and saw them in movies or whatnot. I bought the M4 because I wanted a carbine, but it just wasn't the carbine that I wanted.

My brother also loves the latest/greatest pistols, while I love me a good 1911 lol. So for me, I'm just more into the military style rifles. I have an 1892 Krag, an 1873 Trapdoor and an M1, which are all genuine (though the M1 is from the CMP and is a re-build with a CMP stock... which I intend on replacing with a period correct stock at some point). Then I have my M1A, which represents an M14, and my AR clones.

So you can see the 'service rifle' theme there lol. If I had the funds, I'd try to get as many service rifle examples as I could, going all the way back to the Revolution... which my grandfather had, but my uncle wound up getting it and selling it (after my grandfather passed away).

41 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I wouldn't really say that I don't like them. I really like the AR platform. But I'm more into military 'history', even if only through 'clones'. My brother (one of my brothers), is the opposite. He's more into the modern iterations.

For me, I just love the feel of an A1 in my hands, but like I said, that's because I carried one in the Army, so that has a lot to do with that. The CAR-15 is just a rifle that I always thought was super cool looking when I was in my teens, and saw them in movies or whatnot. I bought the M4 because I wanted a carbine, but it just wasn't the carbine that I wanted.

My brother also loves the latest/greatest pistols, while I love me a good 1911 lol. So for me, I'm just more into the military style rifles. I have an 1892 Krag, an 1873 Trapdoor and an M1, which are all genuine (though the M1 is from the CMP and is a re-build with a CMP stock... which I intend on replacing with a period correct stock at some point). Then I have my M1A, which represents an M14, and my AR clones.

So you can see the 'service rifle' theme there lol. If I had the funds, I'd try to get as many service rifle examples as I could, going all the way back to the Revolution... which my grandfather had, but my uncle wound up getting it and selling it (after my grandfather passed away).

I cringed reading about the rifles being sold. It also pains me how many surplus rifles got sporterized. 

I'm more into the function over anything, but with the modern stuff you get a lot of guys getting Gucci gear just because and they shoot for ish. 

To me the best service rifle is the M1. When you compare to what peer militaries had in Mass when the M1 was adopted, it is clear that the M1 was revolutionary. Obviously some German small arms were very advanced, but not fielded en masse (similar to the repeater rifles that the Union fielded, a high volume of fire but not produced enough to make a difference), however US infantrymen went into combat with a very reliable weapon system that was very much ahead of what our allies or enemies had. 

6 minutes ago, Bill said:

I cringed reading about the rifles being sold. It also pains me how many surplus rifles got sporterized. 

I'm more into the function over anything, but with the modern stuff you get a lot of guys getting Gucci gear just because and they shoot for ish. 

To me the best service rifle is the M1. When you compare to what peer militaries had in Mass when the M1 was adopted, it is clear that the M1 was revolutionary. Obviously some German small arms were very advanced, but not fielded en masse (similar to the repeater rifles that the Union fielded, a high volume of fire but not produced enough to make a difference), however US infantrymen went into combat with a very reliable weapon system that was very much ahead of what our allies or enemies had. 

I actually only sold the upper assemblies (on Gunbroker), so they went to other enthusiasts. For the A2, the person that bought it told me that she planned to make wood furniture and a wood stock. I asked her to send me pics when she was finished, but I haven't ever gotten any. The M4 upper also went to an enthusiast, I want to say he was in Boston but I don't remember at the moment. 

I love my M1, I won't say that it's my favorite rifle, but it's one of my favorites. The receiver is Springfield, I want to say 1943 vintage... but again, my memory is also saying it might be 1944 vintage. The barrel is early 1950's, so potentially a Korean War barrel. 

As much as I like my AR's though, I think my M1A is my favorite. It's a sweet shooter, and I love the surplus M14 stock that I bought for it. It's a Springfield Armory stock, so it's fitting that the rifle itself is Springfield Armory (Inc). Not the 'real' Springfield Armory, but it's namesake. 

On 4/22/2020 at 11:47 PM, Bill said:

Lots of good info quoted here

So I have the basics. Glock 19, Ruger 10/22, a couple other 9mm with a .380 pocket pistol thrown in so I can pretend to be James Bond.

The Ruger is my favorite to shoot though and I want to get more into long range shooting. 500 to 1000 yards thereabout. What would you suggest for that?

7 minutes ago, graysferry said:

So I have the basics. Glock 19, Ruger 10/22, a couple other 9mm with a .380 pocket pistol thrown in so I can pretend to be James Bond.

The Ruger is my favorite to shoot though and I want to get more into long range shooting. 500 to 1000 yards thereabout. What would you suggest for that?

get a 308 and practice until youre goo at shooting 100. like 3 shot groups at a half an inch or less. having that mastered will go a long way once you step out to 300+. i say 308 cause its cheap and easy to find. i bought a 7mm mag a couple years ago with the same intent as you. i dont shoot it as much as i want because a box of cheap ammo is $25+. 

also, over spend on a good optic. even if you upgrade the rifle at some point, you can keep that optic. 

39 minutes ago, BFit said:

get a 308 and practice until youre goo at shooting 100. like 3 shot groups at a half an inch or less. having that mastered will go a long way once you step out to 300+. i say 308 cause its cheap and easy to find. i bought a 7mm mag a couple years ago with the same intent as you. i dont shoot it as much as i want because a box of cheap ammo is $25+. 

also, over spend on a good optic. even if you upgrade the rifle at some point, you can keep that optic. 

Yeah, a lot of articles I've read emphasized not skimping on the scope so that makes sense. Been going back and forth between going with a 308 and .223/.556, but I think I'm gonna go this route. Thanks.

1 hour ago, graysferry said:

Yeah, a lot of articles I've read emphasized not skimping on the scopeb so that makes sense. Been going back and forth between going with a 308 and .223/.556, but I think I'm gonna go this route. Thanks.

Second vote for .308.  It's readily available, accurate, and there are plenty of rifles chambered for it.  My 40 year old hunting rifle is a .308, and I've had no complaint with it. 

16 minutes ago, graysferry said:

Yeah, a lot of articles I've read emphasized not skimping on the scopeb so that makes sense. Been going back and forth between going with a 308 and .223/.556, but I think I'm gonna go this route. Thanks.

i originally went with an AR chambered in 223 when i wanted a long range gun. that was a failed venture and i really didnt know what i was doing when i put it together. learned from it though. 

if you get everything put together and want to start a shooting journal for the gun, i made some sheets up in photoshop a couple years ago. i can post em on here if you want. they were asking like 20 bucks for a journal online. a 3 dollar binder and 30 sheets of paper does just fine 

3 minutes ago, BFit said:

i originally went with an AR chambered in 223 when i wanted a long range gun. that was a failed venture and i really didnt know what i was doing when i put it together. learned from it though. 

if you get everything put together and want to start a shooting journal for the gun, i made some sheets up in photoshop a couple years ago. i can post em on here if you want. they were asking like 20 bucks for a journal online. a 3 dollar binder and 30 sheets of paper does just fine 

That would be awesome, thanks.

these might not print out right, i have them saved as PDF files but i dont know how to post them. if someone knows how, let me know and ill do it

18 hours ago, graysferry said:

So I have the basics. Glock 19, Ruger 10/22, a couple other 9mm with a .380 pocket pistol thrown in so I can pretend to be James Bond.

The Ruger is my favorite to shoot though and I want to get more into long range shooting. 500 to 1000 yards thereabout. What would you suggest for that?

i came across a genuine german ppk a few years back - really wish i had bought it but man that sucker was heavy

i also want a 308 at some point, but i dont hunt and my setups are all cqb for home defense, so thinking shotgun or 300 first

Paul Harrell is the man.  "If you’re sleeping with a handgun like this, there’s a good chance you are sleeping by yourself” said while wearing Spongebob pajamas in the pouring rain with a 7 shooter.  

 

 

On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2020 at 6:20 PM, BFit said:

get a 308

 

On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2020 at 6:46 PM, Mlodj said:

Second vote for .308.

 

On ‎4‎/‎29‎/‎2020 at 12:48 PM, ToastJenkins said:

i also want a 308

I'll add my voice to the chorus. My .308 (M1A) is my favorite rifle. I haven't done any long distance shooting with it (yet), but it's a sweet shooter, I really like it a lot.

On 4/28/2020 at 6:46 PM, Mlodj said:

Second vote for .308.  It's readily available, accurate, and there are plenty of rifles chambered for it.  My 40 year old hunting rifle is a .308, and I've had no complaint with it. 

My dad used a pre 64 model 88 .308win for hunting. Very nice rifle that my son now has in his collection. 

7 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

 

 

I'll add my voice to the chorus. My .308 (M1A) is my favorite rifle. I haven't done any long distance shooting with it (yet), but it's a sweet shooter, I really like it a lot.

Shot an FN Scar in 308. Damn thing was smooth as silk

I built an AR 10 in 6.5 Creedmoor and it's amazing.

SOCOM has already ditched 308 for 6.5 Creedmoor 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/05/08/socom-snipers-will-ditch-their-bullets-for-this-new-round-next-year/

We got a .45 and a Mossberg shotgun.  Took about 10 minutes.

I didn't want either but with Trump fanning racist hate, Mrs TP was feeling especially nervous.

The Mossberg is pretty badarss but the .45 is the deadly weapon.

 

I hope to sell them both as soon as Biden is president.

5 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

I built an AR 10 in 6.5 Creedmoor and it's amazing.

SOCOM has already ditched 308 for 6.5 Creedmoor 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/05/08/socom-snipers-will-ditch-their-bullets-for-this-new-round-next-year/

I evidently missed it.  They say the 6.5 doubles hit probability at 1,000 meters but don't give any explanation how.

6 hours ago, TomatoPie said:

We got a .45 and a Mossberg shotgun.  Took about 10 minutes.

I didn't want either but with Trump fanning racist hate, Mrs TP was feeling especially nervous.

The Mossberg is pretty badarss but the .45 is the deadly weapon.

 

I hope to sell them both as soon as Biden is president.

I have 0 desire for a gun as well, but viewing places like here, Twitter, and a few other sites. Conservatives are truly nuts and a danger to this country. I'm not a Nancy and don't need a gun to keep me secure, but with this loons packed to the gills I've considered and looked at some revolvers.

Can you gift firearms to your adult child across state lines? Or grandchild?

I asked this on the old board and I think I was given a link but that's gone now

All the betas are are arming up cause orange man bad 

9 hours ago, MR-CYN said:

All the betas are are arming up cause orange man bad 

What fear drives you to arm up? I have not had a weapon in my house for about 30 years because I haven’t felt the need. However, with the economic outlook as it is, I fear that some of the 30-40 million people out of work will get desperate at some point and I need something to protect my TP stock.