14 hours ago, proveagle said:

My read is Howie and Lurie think this team is a shitshow and they will need to clean house after the season. So now its onto to 2 maybe 3 things:

1. Evaluate players - who to invest in and keep and who to trade / cut.

2. Put talent on tape, especially quarterback. If they want to get an elite offensive mind into the Head Coach spot its easiest if that coach is excited about who they can build around at QB. Joe Milton presents BY FAR the highest upside.

3. Maybe they can squeeze out a more pleasant / competitive team to get excited about and win some more games and keep it close in a way that fans etc see a brighter future. It's Philly so as bad as it is now the environment can get FAR worse both outside the team and inside.

The story on Milton is strong arm, no accuracy.

The Eagles need to know what they have with Joe Milton and maybe Cole Payton before the end of the season.

If Milton plays strong, maybe he stays as the starter. Maybe we draft OLine and not QB. Is Hurts coming back?

It's simple: McKee will leave as a free agent and the season is over anyway. So Howie wants to evaluate Milton as the backup for next year.

He won’t make a difference and in 3 games we’ll see Cole or whatever his name is.

Get ready, it’s coming. Upset city ! Hey I can dream.

I hope he plays well enough to get the QB2 job for next season, backing Jalen.

But simultaneously, I hope he doesn’t play well enough to win any games. 😆🤣

Perfect backup for jalen. You guys called it. Under 200 yards passing, under 60% completion percentage, no passing tds, unnecessary sacks taken and accuracy issues. Felt like old times out there .

Well he got 1 game. Next up Payton?

I think he's a good example of "arm talent" not = NFL success.

All the easy throws are a challenge. Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are examples of QBs that improved their accuracy, but that happened early in their careers. I have my doubts that Milton will ever grasp the concept of "touch."

After seeing him play 1 game for us, all I can really say is I'm glad he only slid once and even that was dumb.

20 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I think he's a good example of "arm talent" not = NFL success.

All the easy throws are a challenge. Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are examples of QBs that improved their accuracy, but that happened early in their careers. I have my doubts that Milton will ever grasp the concept of "touch."

After seeing him play 1 game for us, all I can really say is I'm glad he only slid once and even that was dumb.

Not sure how you can judge him playing behind the worst Oline in football throwing to a bunch of 2nd stringers.

Not saying he’s the next Joe Montana but he’s got the physical tools to develop into a solid backup.

It was his first start behind an absolute sieve of an o line. Surprised he didn’t get seriously injured after some of those hits .

5 drops 2 terrible from lemon.

Not sure we could have expected much more tbh

1 minute ago, Road to Victory said:

Not sure how you can judge him playing behind the worst Oline in football throwing to a bunch of 2nd stringers.

Not saying he’s the next Joe Montana but he’s got the physical tools to develop into a solid backup.

That right there is what I don't get....NO QB behind that line is going to be successful whatsoever....add in an incompetent OC who has maybe four plays in his playbook and its a recipe for disaster. Look at Case Keenum, Jameis Winston, etc and any other backup and you see what competent playcalling can do for them....this coaching staff is clueless, Siri is beyond clueless, Mannion is clueless and it goes on and on.....

People in here are judging him based on their emotions and not seeing all of the other factors that play into this....calling him stupid and other unnecessary adjectives just because we lost YET AGAIN and not seeing that different QB's in this system will all fail.....

8 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

Not sure how you can judge him playing behind the worst Oline in football throwing to a bunch of 2nd stringers.

Not saying he’s the next Joe Montana but he’s got the physical tools to develop into a solid backup.

5 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

It was his first start behind an absolute sieve of an o line. Surprised he didn’t get seriously injured after some of those hits .

5 drops 2 terrible from lemon.

Not sure we could have expected much more tbh

It doesn't take much to become a solid backup. If fact, I believe McKee is already there. On a healthy roster, McKee can be expected to fill in for the starter for a game here and there without making the kind of mistakes that hurt a team.

So far, in Milton's NFL stint, he is responsible for several of the "drops" because he has no sense of touch and puts way too much on passes --- especially short ones. Because of that, he also misses many easy throws because the ball isn't in the air long enough for the receiver to get there. What I liked from Milton was his running ability, but as a passer, I didn't see anything that leads me to believe he might develop into a much better passer with better players around him. Wentz had a big arm and would often overthrow receivers, but he also showed touch on other throws. I believe Milton's runs did spark the offense early in the game, but numerous stalled possessions cast doubt on his abilities as a passer. I'm sure he'll get more chances this season, but I don't think Hurts has to worry about Milton unseating him. Not being able to complete short passes is a huge problem in today's NFL.

9 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

It doesn't take much to become a solid backup. If fact, I believe McKee is already there. On a healthy roster, McKee can be expected to fill in for the starter for a game here and there without making the kind of mistakes that hurt a team.

So far, in Milton's NFL stint, he is responsible for several of the "drops" because he has no sense of touch and puts way too much on passes --- especially short ones. Because of that, he also misses many easy throws because the ball isn't in the air long enough for the receiver to get there. What I liked from Milton was his running ability, but as a passer, I didn't see anything that leads me to believe he might develop into a much better passer with better players around him. Wentz had a big arm and would often overthrow receivers, but he also showed touch on other throws. I believe Milton's runs did spark the offense early in the game, but numerous stalled possessions cast doubt on his abilities as a passer. I'm sure he'll get more chances this season, but I don't think Hurts has to worry about Milton unseating him. Not being able to complete short passes is a huge problem in today's NFL.

Thanks for the analysis. We will watch for improvement. I don't expect to see it.

Good to know what we have for a backup.

I still don't want to draft QB in the first round.

Let's fix the OLine instead.

20 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I think he's a good example of "arm talent" not = NFL success.

All the easy throws are a challenge. Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are examples of QBs that improved their accuracy, but that happened early in their careers. I have my doubts that Milton will ever grasp the concept of "touch."

After seeing him play 1 game for us, all I can really say is I'm glad he only slid once and even that was dumb.

Not sure how you can judge him playing behind the worst Oline in football throwing to a bunch of 2nd stringers.

Not saying he’s the next Joe Montana but he’s got the physical tools to develop into a solid backup.

23 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

It doesn't take much to become a solid backup. If fact, I believe McKee is already there. On a healthy roster, McKee can be expected to fill in for the starter for a game here and there without making the kind of mistakes that hurt a team.

So far, in Milton's NFL stint, he is responsible for several of the "drops" because he has no sense of touch and puts way too much on passes --- especially short ones. Because of that, he also misses many easy throws because the ball isn't in the air long enough for the receiver to get there. What I liked from Milton was his running ability, but as a passer, I didn't see anything that leads me to believe he might develop into a much better passer with better players around him. Wentz had a big arm and would often overthrow receivers, but he also showed touch on other throws. I believe Milton's runs did spark the offense early in the game, but numerous stalled possessions cast doubt on his abilities as a passer. I'm sure he'll get more chances this season, but I don't think Hurts has to worry about Milton unseating him. Not being able to complete short passes is a huge problem in today's NFL.

Throwing with touch is something that can be taught. Having a cannon arm and being able to run like a deer cannot be taught. He’s got all the tools that you could ask for, just need to refine his skills. That’s something good coaching can do.

22 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

It doesn't take much to become a solid backup. If fact, I believe McKee is already there. On a healthy roster, McKee can be expected to fill in for the starter for a game here and there without making the kind of mistakes that hurt a team.

So far, in Milton's NFL stint, he is responsible for several of the "drops" because he has no sense of touch and puts way too much on passes --- especially short ones. Because of that, he also misses many easy throws because the ball isn't in the air long enough for the receiver to get there. What I liked from Milton was his running ability, but as a passer, I didn't see anything that leads me to believe he might develop into a much better passer with better players around him. Wentz had a big arm and would often overthrow receivers, but he also showed touch on other throws. I believe Milton's runs did spark the offense early in the game, but numerous stalled possessions cast doubt on his abilities as a passer. I'm sure he'll get more chances this season, but I don't think Hurts has to worry about Milton unseating him. Not being able to complete short passes is a huge problem in today's NFL.

Solid read on it.

Im actually mad for both of these guys and mannion (far far less for him) because its nearly impossible for them to put good film up in these conditions. I feel tanner is a solid backup but has doesnt have starter ceiling and Joe has starter attributes until you get to mechanics and touch. I cant tell you who fits the scheme better because we are so far down the depth chart who knows what we are running at this point. Its been a rough year. Im hoping for a safe recovery for Jalen and for these two young men to escape this season healthy and to get another shot somewhere next season.

4 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

Not sure how you can judge him playing behind the worst Oline in football throwing to a bunch of 2nd stringers.

Not saying he’s the next Joe Montana but he’s got the physical tools to develop into a solid backup.

Throwing with touch is something that can be taught. Having a cannon arm and being able to run like a deer cannot be taught. He’s got all the tools that you could ask for, just need to refine his skills. That’s something good coaching can do.

Sadly we do not have good coaching on this staff

5 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Sadly we do not have good coaching on this staff

This.

There isn't one Coach on the Offensive side of the ball that is good or can possibly develop a player.

A shame too, as the Eagles spend $$ for players but seem to come up really short (lately) when it comes to getting good Offensive minds into the building. I wonder, from the Chip experiment, are they just still a bit gun shy to bring in solid College Coaches. Always seem to be hiring NFL Assistants, who some are not suited to be a Coach at the NFL Level. IMO. Patullo, Johnson, Mannion, Kuper, Grizzard, etc.....

11 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

This.

There isn't one Coach on the Offensive side of the ball that is good or can possibly develop a player.

A shame too, as the Eagles spend $$ for players but seem to come up really short (lately) when it comes to getting good Offensive minds into the building. I wonder, from the Chip experiment, are they just still a bit gun shy to bring in solid College Coaches. Always seem to be hiring NFL Assistants, who some are not suited to be a Coach at the NFL Level. IMO. Patullo, Johnson, Mannion, Kuper, Grizzard, etc.....

Hopefully, Sirianni will be coaching high school next year.

1 hour ago, Road to Victory said:

Not sure how you can judge him playing behind the worst Oline in football throwing to a bunch of 2nd stringers.

Not saying he’s the next Joe Montana but he’s got the physical tools to develop into a solid backup.

Throwing with touch is something that can be taught. Having a cannon arm and being able to run like a deer cannot be taught. He’s got all the tools that you could ask for, just need to refine his skills. That’s something good coachinat5g can do.

He played five years of major college football at Michigan and Tennessee and this is his third year in the NFl with his third team. He is 26 years old. What you see is what you get. I would have liked to see more RPO's but that is beyond Mannion's brain. He' will hang around the fringes of the NFL for several years but that is about it.

On 11/6/2026 at 3:19 PM, CouchKing said:

The story on Milton is strong arm, no accuracy.

The Eagles need to know what they have with Joe Milton and maybe Cole Payton before the end of the season.

If Milton plays strong, maybe he stays as the starter. Maybe we draft OLine and not QB. Is Hurts coming back?

What they have is a strong arm and no accuracy QB. What they do not have is O line coach with half a brain. Diminished OL talent. We have to draft OL with first 2 picks next year.

33 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

He played five years of major college football at Michigan and Tennessee and this is his third year in the NFl with his third team. He is 26 years old. What you see is what you get. I would have liked to see more RPO's but that is beyond Mannion's brain. He' will hang around the fringes of the NFL for several years but that is about it.

This was his first start in the NFL since he was stuck behind Maye and Dak.

Some guys are late bloomers, like Kurt Warner, Baker Mayfield, and Sam Darnold. Give him some good coaching and some talent around him and he could develop. I said the same thing about Hurts when he got his first chance and got roasted by many on this site.

17 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

This was his first start in the NFL since he was stuck behind Maye and Dak.

Some guys are late bloomers, like Kurt Warner, Baker Mayfield, and Sam Darnold. Give him some good coaching and some talent around him and he could develop. I said the same thing about Hurts when he got his first chance and got roasted by many on this site.

I expect him to be signficantly better after the bye. He'll have a game under his belt plus a healthier Barkley, plus Smith, Wicks and possibly Bigsby. If he is not a good bit better after the bye then he has problems.

46 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

This was his first start in the NFL since he was stuck behind Maye and Dak.

Some guys are late bloomers, like Kurt Warner, Baker Mayfield, and Sam Darnold. Give him some good coaching and some talent around him and he could develop. I said the same thing about Hurts when he got his first chance and got roasted by many on this site.

Those guys had completely different skillsets and completely different starting points mechanically.

Hurts was a great football player who developed in to an adequate enough qb if that makes sense. The dude understood the game enough and was athletic enough early on to be effective in different ways. I wasnt a Hurts guy at all but I remember in the middle of the 22 season being like "didnt know a qb could be a plus one AND an mvp candidate."

Milton athletically will start slowing down in a year or two and has sloppy ass mechanics. He isnt someone i would invest too much on.

Inaccurate and inconsistent. That's a bad combo.

1 hour ago, Eagles1960 said:

I expect him to be signficantly better after the bye. He'll have a game under his belt plus a healthier Barkley, plus Smith, Wicks and possibly Bigsby. If he is not a good bit better after the bye then he has problems.

The problem is the Oline which hasn’t shown any improvement. In fact, they might be regressing.