13 minutes ago, birdman#12 said:

How the hell could Cincinnati's GM not know this before agreeing to a trade??

Incompetence. You know what's also odd? Cincy's GM is also a scout for us! I mean, what?

3 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Incompetence. You know what's also odd? Cincy's GM is also a scout for us! I mean, what?

That can’t be true … is it really??

If he drafts like he did in 2021-2024 we might contend in a couple of years, if he drafts like he did in 2025 and the early indications of this year it could be a while. I worry that when we lost Brandon Hunt as head of Scouting and Dave Caldwell as senior personnel director at the end of 2024 then Alec Halaby as Assistant GM at the end of 2025, the collective brain trust that was the reason for the stellar drafting of 21-24 have all left the building, and now we're back to "With the 21st pick of the 2020 Draft, The Eagles select... Jalen Reagor" Howie.

22 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

If he drafts like he did in 2021-2024 we might contend in a couple of years, if he drafts like he did in 2025 and the early indications of this year it could be a while. I worry that when we lost Brandon Hunt as head of Scouting and Dave Caldwell as senior personnel director at the end of 2024 then Alec Halaby as Assistant GM at the end of 2025, the collective brain trust that was the reason for the stellar drafting of 21-24 have all left the building, and now we're back to "With the 21st pick of the 2020 Draft, The Eagles select... Jalen Reagor" Howie.

I agree, his last 2 drafts have been.....unremarkable to be kind.

Hurts health has put us in a real dilemma ...I feel no matter what we are NOT giving Hurts an extension and shouldn't but until he proves he's healthy and can

play we can't get any real value for whims he probably has to be here next year just to prove he can but will he without extension...I believe without moving completely on

from Hurts for next year this draft is about acquiring the needs of other areas across both sides of the ball ..I don't have a problem acquiring a QB this draft early and allow next year be his sit watch and learn year

otherwise we'll be doing that for the 28 season. We really should've picked up the tackle in round 1 or 2 this past draft but I feel Howie got cute again and drafted a

TE that is the opposite of what he said he was looking for in a TE and I'm not just saying that because I had Stowers rated out of my top 10 in TEs. I didn't like Lemon either but I have started to see

some good in him despite the drops, that will come around. OL, DL and S are a priority ..obvious I know but they can be addressed this draft early.

34 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

If he drafts like he did in 2021-2024 we might contend in a couple of years, if he drafts like he did in 2025 and the early indications of this year it could be a while. I worry that when we lost Brandon Hunt as head of Scouting and Dave Caldwell as senior personnel director at the end of 2024 then Alec Halaby as Assistant GM at the end of 2025, the collective brain trust that was the reason for the stellar drafting of 21-24 have all left the building, and now we're back to "With the 21st pick of the 2020 Draft, The Eagles select... Jalen Reagor" Howie.

I was going to post this exact same thing ... I share the same concern. We have a haul of picks in the early rounds the next 3 years ... we absolutely need a high hit rate on them to become contenders again in the near future. Can't afford to blow them on Reagors and Dillards.

13 hours ago, time2rock said:

That can’t be true … is it really??

Correction...it's his son that's the Eagles scout. Saw a reputable Eagles guy on X say that and I was like what??? But yeah, it's the son. Hope the son isn't as incompetent as the father apparently is.

2 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Correction...it's his son that's the Eagles scout. Saw a reputable Eagles guy on X say that and I was like what??? But yeah, it's the son. Hope the son isn't as incompetent as the father apparently is.

That makes sense. I swear these people don't bother to fact check before posting. Same with Kerr yesterday when reporting the picks Howie has gained via trades thus far this season. It's annoying af.

It's inevitable that certain draft classes are not going to be as productive as others......it happens to every team and GM. To think the eagles are going to have every draft class be solid is not realistic nor possible.

Plus so much depends on a coaching staff proven to be able to develop talent, the draft slot where the team picks, team needs.......the list goes on.

Even first round picks can struggle when consensus is that they will be a star......and a coaching staff that struggles with developing talent can ruin an entire draft class.

The eagles are still pretty talented but there are very clear needs that Howie has to rebuild. The biggest problem though is the coaching......How they handle that in the offseason is anybody's guess.......and that could drastically reshuffle how Howie goes about retooling.

Sirianni has very clear limitations and I think he has lost influence with the team....and they need an experienced OC without Sirianni injecting himself into that role.....Fangio, I think is on his way to retirement....I don't think he wants to go thru another year of Sirianni and a new head coach may want his own hire.

So while it's fun to discuss draft picks and all the trades Howie possibly can work on draft day, but until the Eagles straighten out the coaching staff and be aggressive in doing it, the draft picks won't matter much.

On 11/10/2026 at 11:10 AM, LacesOut said:

Great job to gain all of these draft picks. BUT, who is going to Coach them? Some bad Coaching on this team. Might need 5-8 new coaches.

A team has to marry the two together…..good players still need good coaching. Sometimes that’s tough to harvest.

We ask this every time a coach is fired (or discussing the potential of it). Who will coach the team? Who's out there? With Reid it used to be Gruden and Cowherd mentioned. Now it's Tomlin and McDermott. Some fans can only think of former head coaches. The formula is usually hiring a coordinator. The Eagles hired Reid as a QB Coach, no one knew who he was and they were mocked for hiring him. Reporters made fun of his binder with a plan. Chip was an experiment, whatever. Then they hired two former coordinators back to back who both won the organization's first Super Bowls.

Other teams hire the "names" people know and most don't win championships. The Eagles hire people that fans and reporters mock as the last on their list, and have won championships.

If they fire Siri and clean house in coaching staff I think they want an offensive mind with a system he can install regardless of rotating OCs. Declan Doyle is a popular choice to go from OC to HC and have an offensive system. We'll see what they do. But their coaching hires have actually been very successful.

11 minutes ago, NOTW said:

We ask this every time a coach is fired (or discussing the potential of it). Who will coach the team? Who's out there? With Reid it used to be Gruden and Cowherd mentioned. Now it's Tomlin and McDermott. Some fans can only think of former head coaches. The formula is usually hiring a coordinator. The Eagles hired Reid as a QB Coach, no one knew who he was and they were mocked for hiring him. Reporters made fun of his binder with a plan. Chip was an experiment, whatever. Then they hired two former coordinators back to back who both won the organization's first Super Bowls.

Other teams hire the "names" people know and most don't win championships. The Eagles hire people that fans and reporters mock as the last on their list, and have won championships.

If they fire Siri and clean house in coaching staff I think they want an offensive mind with a system he can install regardless of rotating OCs. Declan Doyle is a popular choice to go from OC to HC and have an offensive system. We'll see what they do. But their coaching hires have actually been very successful.

Fun fact since Lurie has owned the team he has never hired a retread as a head coach. So we won't know who the next coach is simply because Lurie won't hire former head coaches

2 seasons is reasonable. 1 season is a stretch. You can't fully address every position in one offseason to the extent of championship level unless an amazing offseason like 2024, which capped several years of drafting. There are still pieces on this roster that will be part of a potential contender (assuming they become one). Everything depends on having good offseasons and doing well in the draft of course, like any year.

Question mark at QB

This will determine the plan.

• Hurts: Does he retire? Is he traded? Is he back but without an extension and knowing it's his final year? If so, he could be traded before the season, or before the trade deadline to a team that loses their QB. Or play out the season while a rookie learns as the #2 to take over the following year.

• New QB: do they like a guy enough in this draft to take him? Or do they roll with Hurts/Milton(or other veteran backup)/Payton? There are rumors some QBs will remain in college. Every year people hype up the QB class and then once the season is over, Senior Bowl, combine, etc. guys stock rise and fall. Will they want to wait until 2028?

2027 offseason:

I think they draft a QB regardless. But they could use the Jags 1st rounder or take a 2nd rounder if they don't love a guy in the top 5. If they love a guy, they'll take him even if they have to trade up, Howie will get his guy.

Howie wants to build the lines and will get back to using high picks on premium positions. I expect rounds 1-3 the next 2 years to address: Edge, OT, OG, QB, TE, Safety, maybe corner. You don't want to reach. If you take an Edge high now and there's not a stud OT you get that guy next year high and roll with Bell. Likewise if both top Edges are taken and there's an OT or QB you like, you do that. BPA but within those key premium positions you need.

Free agency should look for a decent TE, Safety and OG, maybe DT depth.

Then 2028 offseason you continue the plan with what you didn't get in 2027. The 2027 team could be good enough to make the playoffs and then 2028 come back as a legit SB contender. This all depends on coaching, hitting on picks and player health as always.

7 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Fun fact since Lurie has owned the team he has never hired a retread as a head coach. So we won't know who the next coach is simply because Lurie won't hire former head coaches

Also no HC in the history of the NFL has won a Super Bowl with 2 teams. So hiring a former SB winning HC has never resulted in winning a SB. There have been some former HC (like Reid) who went on to win, but most SB winners were former coordinators who were first time HC.

17 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Fun fact since Lurie has owned the team he has never hired a retread as a head coach. So we won't know who the next coach is simply because Lurie won't hire former head coaches

I wouldn't mind seeing that change for the next hire. I'd be quite intrigued by someone who has quite a bit of experience and proven to be successful for the majority of the time (someone like Harbaugh who went to NY this past offseason or Payton who was hired by Denver a couple years ago) that knows how to run a team and has a wide circle of coaching friends that he would attract so that we can get the right coordinators to run all 3 units. I wonder how someone like Tomlin might work here. I'm sure there will be other attractive candidates that shake free as well that you might not expect (like Harbaugh last year).

Find a new QB. Get a new Coach. Implement a new system. 2-3 years