5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Sad part is if it was reversed I think they wouldn't wait either

Politics have become more cutthroat and pandering

We need a reset button for politicians

Actually those cucks on the Left would wait.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Sad part is if it was reversed I think they wouldn't wait either

Politics have become more cutthroat and pandering

We need a reset button for politicians

And at least a 3 party system.  This 2 party stuff just doesn't work. 

3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Actually those cucks on the Left would wait.

Agree to disagree

28 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Lmfao you’re too much dude

Too much for you, Karen. I think those roots have dug too deeply into your brain and it's limiting your cognitive functions.

8 minutes ago, TEW said:

Fixed

I'm pretty cynical, but I'm not a nihilist. Ethics don't exist? That's a dangerous statement. They certainly exist, but we don't put people in power who believe in them. For the most part, though, I think we get the government we deserve.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Agree to disagree

What evidence do you have they wouldn’t wait?

RIP.  This really sucks. Would have been nice for her to have retired in her own accord. Lifetime appointments seem like kind of a blessing and a curse. Never gonna happen but I'd really like to see it go away. Get rid of all the gamemanship involved with the country's highest court. But yeah I guess that's just wishful thinking. 

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

What evidence do you have they wouldn’t wait?

Same as you. A guess

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

RIP.  This really sucks. Would have been nice for her to have retired in her own accord. Lifetime appointments seem like kind of a blessing and a curse. Never gonna happen but I'd really like to see it go away. Get rid of all the gamemanship involved with the country's highest court. But yeah I guess that's just wishful thinking. 

Part of the "checks and balances” system is that the President can nominate Supreme Court justices, but it seems like Congress has been ceding a lot of power and influence to the President in the last 40 years.

  Douglas Brinkley nails it (transcribed and edited for clarity from an interview last night):

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Well, the term grotesque hypocrisy that we are seeing out of this Republican Party—It used mean something to be a Republican Senator, but Donald Trump has been able to get them to abandon any kind of ethics, and just be in this kind of scorched-earth strategy. Burn, no matter what. Win, win, win, at all cost without stopping to think about what it means to our country long-term. And that’s the problem with the modern Republican Party: They don’t care about climate change; they want their money, now—not what their kids or grandkids might inherit. And they are not worried about what this means for how the judicial branch will function in the coming decades. They are worried about win, win, win, right now. And it’s sad—we’re looking at a decline in our American democracy—that we’re in an era, where there are not enough Republican Senators that would be willing to stand up and say, "Timeout. We’re not jamming this through. We’re going to have an election, nothing happening beforehand, and we’ll have a further discussion after November 3^rd. Instead, I’m afraid you might have Mitch McConell trying to slam this on immediately in the coming days, trying to get this done and make this the issue of the campaign.

 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Same as you. A guess

The U.S. Senate is often referred to as the world’s greatest deliberative body.  Jamming through a SCOTUS appointment doesn’t really jive with that.

 

26 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

You're trash. Utter trash. Far worst a human being than any of those on the left you routinely decry.

Happy weekend to you, too!!!!! 

 

 

33 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Your life must be so miserable. It's about to get worse come November 

55 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Let’s Fing go!

12 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I'm pretty cynical, but I'm not a nihilist. Ethics don't exist? That's a dangerous statement. They certainly exist, but we don't put people in power who believe in them. For the most part, though, I think we get the government we deserve.

Ethics exist, but we are talking about political power, and in political power, they rarely do.

The Republicans should have just come out in 2015 and said look "the fact is that the one who controls the Senate controls the nominations.”  They should have never argued "because there’s an election”

I love how the trumpbots think Mr. Person Woman Man Camera TV is suddenly gonna be employing game theory. 

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Ethics exist, but we are talking about political power, and in political power, they rarely do.

I disagree. Ethics exist for some politicians, but the people no longer care to hold their elected leaders accountable to it so much - especially on the right.

You think anyone on the right would have done what Franken did? You think the left would have nominated a Roy Moore?

13 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

  Douglas Brinkley nails it (transcribed and edited for clarity from an interview last night):

 

Both parties would do the exact same things that both parties did in these exact roles. The left wanted to ram through their own guy for Garland. Now they’re saying no because they are unprincipled just like the GOP is now going to attempt to ram through their own nominee after saying we should wait until after an election.

The only difference is that the GOP actually has the power to do what they want and the Democrats do not. Both parties are interested in winning at nearly any cost. Neither party cares about hypocrisy at all. 

The sooner you realize that they both act in the exact same way, the sooner you can understand that what TJ said was realism.

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

The Republicans should have just come out in 2015 and said look "the fact is that the one who controls the Senate controls the nominations.”  They should have never argued "because there’s an election”

It was always a BS argument. 

Situation reversed in 2016 I don't think Dems sit on a nomination. But now? I don't know. McConnell had lowered the bar.

Just now, TEW said:

Both parties would do the exact same things that both parties did in these exact roles. The left wanted to ram through their own guy for Garland. Now they’re saying no because they are unprincipled just like the GOP is now going to attempt to ram through their own nominee after saying we should wait until after an election.

The only difference is that the GOP actually has the power to do what they want and the Democrats do not. Both parties are interested in winning at nearly any cost. Neither party cares about hypocrisy at all. 

The sooner you realize that they both act in the exact same way, the sooner you can understand that what TJ said was realism.

"Ram through". Ok. 

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

The only difference is that the GOP actually has the power to do what they want and the Democrats do not. Both parties are interested in winning at nearly any cost. Neither party cares about hypocrisy at all.

Hypocrisy is obviously endemic to politics, but it exists by degrees. It's at levels that we have not witnessed in recent memory. People have been relying on these false equivalencies to avoid making the unfortunate but necessary choice between two evils. That's realism

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I disagree. Ethics exist for some politicians, but the people no longer care to hold their elected leaders accountable to it so much - especially on the right.

You think anyone on the right would have done what Franken did? You think the left would have nominated a Roy Moore?

Remember when this dude claimed to be a moderate?  

good times.

I think it’s true that most Dem voters don’t care as much about the Courts while a lot of GOP voters do.  Which makes this harder to gauge when factoring in political power.

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Remember when this dude claimed to be a moderate?  

good times.

Good point KKKz, we all know you're the only true moderate in CVON 

For Franken that picture looked bad.  He looked creepy as hell even if he was just messing around at the time.  I don’t think a GOP Senator would resign in the same position though.  That’s the main point.