mr_hunt Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 who it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Not America, thats for damn sure 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain F Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The meme creators won. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I’m gonna say a tie. Trump mainly defeated Chris Wallace. He rattled Biden, but he also acted like an imbecile most of the night. Trump convinced 0 new voters he’s fit. His camp remains loyal, but I think he’s done (barring something unforeseen). Biden will win the EC by 100-150 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsvand12 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Team trump handed Biden the win before it even started. They claimed for months he’d basically be up on stage drooling and peeing on himself. He came off as coherent and destroyed the trump team’s narrative. The next one being a town hall will be even easier for Biden to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Biden is leading already. He doesn’t have to win any of the debates. Trump has lost some of the suburban white women that voted for him last time and that’s going to cost him big time. He didn’t win any of them back last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Neither so I'll say tie What a sheet show 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 who won? ... Trump sucked all the air out of the room with his interjections and childish ranting and raving. And the lies... oh the lies. But that's what he does in general, and it can be effective. But I find it hard to watch last night's debate and think that it was. He came off as whiny, petulant, and childish. All the things anyone paying attention knows he is, but I don't think he did himself favors. Biden wasn't really given much room to operate frankly. He's got to stand up there opposite the equivalent of a monkey flinging poo and try to maintain composure. For the most part I think he did, and if I think about any lines being memorable or effective in a positive way last night we're looking at "would you just shut up" (because it exposes Trump's antics), the heartfelt way he talked about his sons, and in general I think him trying to rise above it and talking to the camera was probably a bit effective. But to be sure this is graded very much on a curve; Biden wasn't "good", but he wasn't a dumpster fire like Trump was. Given that Biden is the consensus front-runner in this, it was Trump that needed to come up with a performance that can turn the few undecideds. I think all he did was ensure that all the nutjobs who are already voting for him are all in. I think he may have even lost some more suburban women, if that's possible. So on that, I guess Biden won? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobeph Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Nobody. It was a waste of ukn’ time and they both embarrassed America. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBMTx Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 If you can not simply denounce white supremacists, you lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolg Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 It was like a 23-23 tie to the worst team in football.... Actually, the Eagles game last week was somehow more compelling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kz! Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, xBMTx said: If you can not simply denounce white supremacists, you lose. Yeah, that was a layup. He could have simply denounced it and asked Biden to do the same of Antifa and then made fun of Biden as he mumbles about how they're an idea. He didn't because he basically has the mentality of a toddler. If someone tells him to do something, he's not going to do it. Wallace could have asked him to denounce Obama, and he wouldn't have simply because he saw Wallace as an adversary at that point and didn't want to give him what he wanted. That said I voted Trump won bigly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBMTx Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yeah, that was a layup. He could have simply denounced it and asked Biden to do the same of Antifa and then made fun of Biden as he mumbles about how they're an idea. He didn't because he basically has the mentality of a toddler. If someone tells him to do something, he's not going to do it. Wallace could have asked him to denounce Obama, and he wouldn't have simply because he saw Wallace as an adversary at that point and didn't want to give him what he wanted. That said I voted Trump won bigly. Did Dear Leader tell you to vote in this poll? Last instruction I heard he gave you was to stand by. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanHammersly Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 No one won it. But Trump lost it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we_gotta_believe Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, xBMTx said: Did Dear Leader tell you to vote in this poll? Last instruction I heard he gave you was to stand by. It's gonna be a looooong time before this one gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, xBMTx said: Did Dear Leader tell you to vote in this poll? Last instruction I heard he gave you was to stand by. kkkz is more of a round boy 🐘 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we_gotta_believe Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogyman Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yeah, that was a layup. He could have simply denounced it and asked Biden to do the same of Antifa and then made fun of Biden as he mumbles about how they're an idea. He didn't because he basically has the mentality of a toddler. If someone tells him to do something, he's not going to do it. Wallace could have asked him to denounce Obama, and he wouldn't have simply because he saw Wallace as an adversary at that point and didn't want to give him what he wanted. That said I voted Trump won bigly. Holy hell, thats a lot of deflection for one paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Probably better to put the word debate in quotes. I'm not sure you could call it that. We had a 2 bit tyrant screaming at everyone and asking white nationalist terrorists to stand by. How anyone could watch Trump last night and think to themselves "Yes! I want him as president!" is beyond me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devpool Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, xBMTx said: If you can not simply denounce white supremacists, you lose. This is why I voted biden won big despite both of them performing terribly last night. Literally all trump has to do was denounce white supremacists, and couldn't even do that. Actually somehow made it WORSE with the "stand by" comment. I don't think biden gained any voters last night in the traditional sense but I believe trump lost some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanHammersly Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 If this debate took place in an alternate America where 200K people hadn't just died, millions weren't out of work and the country weren't in a state of crisis on pretty much every front, it may have just been a nice gladiator match that people would've enjoyed for the blood sport of it. But now, with everything that's going on? Not good. Trump hurt himself exactly where he can't hurt himself, with suburban women. And he didn't help himself anywhere, because everyone who was hoping for an in-the-mud bareknuckle boxing match is already deep in the cult. The VP debate (for as much as that matters) should be a cake walk for Harris. Pence is way out of his element and I'd guess he'll just do what he did against Kaine: shake his head, give her the look like he just took a dump in his pants and act like she's crazy. But Harris's gameplan should be do no harm, so I'd imagine she reigns it in to protect the lead. Then there's the next Prez debate, which will go the exact same way as this one because with Trump, everything's inevitable. He'll need desperately to pull himself back and act like a grown up but he's incapable of doing that so we'll get a carbon copy of this one. Basically, all these debates are doing is giving America a chance to see what they hate about Trump one more time, in person and unfiltered. That's bad news for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul852 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, toolg said: It was like a 23-23 tie to the worst team in football.... Actually, the Eagles game last week was somehow more compelling. So it was like the Bengals tying us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul852 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yeah, that was a layup. He could have simply denounced it and asked Biden to do the same of Antifa and then made fun of Biden as he mumbles about how they're an idea. He didn't because he basically has the mentality of a toddler. If someone tells him to do something, he's not going to do it. Wallace could have asked him to denounce Obama, and he wouldn't have simply because he saw Wallace as an adversary at that point and didn't want to give him what he wanted. That said I voted Trump won bigly. It must hurt so bad to truly know he botched it because the debates were pretty much his last chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toastrel Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: No one won it. But Trump lost it. That was my take. America lost first, but Trump was a close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kz! Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: It must hurt so bad to truly know he botched it because the debates were pretty much his last chance. Yeah, he definitely had a chance to win over a bunch of leftists with a better showing. What a missed opportunity! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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