23 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

This actually isn't totally true.  There is an entire cottage industry built around bilking Medicare dollars for people to "stay home to care for a family member or friend".  

I am not aware of any Medicare $$ paying a family member.  There is a waiver program, but that's Medicaid which varies by state, and again, you have to be dead broke to qualify.

2 hours ago, The Norseman said:

There's going to be a lot of that over the next four years.  The honeymoon period with this guy will be short lived.  That being said, I think he is handling the transition well and trying to calm everyone down.  Unlike Trump he does have some grace. 

I think we all know what we're getting with sleepy joe. A boring gaffe machine who at least means well. If confusing two sports teams is as bad as it gets, then sign me the F up.

1 hour ago, OCEaglefan said:

Not a person this thread is addressed to but I’ll say we’d be better off as a country if everyone had health insurance and access to medical care that isn’t the ER 

ACA didnt do it. Trump said he had a plan but was full of ish. Republicans offered nothing. 
 

I don’t know how you do it what % Public vs Private but we’re all better off if it’s figured out 

I like the idea in theory that it could be like K-12 education:  tax-paid public option and if you want more, pay for extra/private insurance.  Some other countries that have "free health care" also have only certain things covered and you have to pay more for additional services, (say elective surgery for example).

I think my problem is I don't trust our government to implement and run it and we are 21 trillion in debt.  I'd like to see us get more financially stable and reduce wasteful spending before adding major programs.

It also needs to be something bipartisan that is built for long-term success.  ACA was something Republicans wanted to overturn immediately.  We can't put something in place that will just be repealed when the next party is in power, it needs to be done properly.

51 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I think we all know what we're getting with sleepy joe. A boring gaffe machine who at least means well. If confusing two sports teams is as bad as it gets, then sign me the F up.

Hopefully it will be.  I do think the country is in need of some serious leadership on a number of different levels right now though.  I hope he can step up and keep the economy moving while getting us out of this virus.  It seems that the rioting and division has settled down now that the alt left got what they wanted.  Hopefully it stays that way.  

5 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Hopefully it will be.  I do think the country is in need of some serious leadership on a number of different levels right now though.  I hope he can step up and keep the economy moving while getting us out of this virus.  It seems that the rioting and division has settled down now that the alt left got what they wanted.  Hopefully it stays that way.  

Respect, Norseman. We're all brothers, and we need to work together to keep ourselves and each other safe, now more than ever.

2 hours ago, OCEaglefan said:

Not a person this thread is addressed to but I’ll say we’d be better off as a country if everyone had health insurance and access to medical care that isn’t the ER 

ACA didnt do it. Trump said he had a plan but was full of ish. Republicans offered nothing. 
 

I don’t know how you do it what % Public vs Private but we’re all better off if it’s figured out 

Also free tuition and so on, unfortunately the money has to come from somewhere

1 hour ago, Shepard Wong said:

There will be certain policies that will be sops to the left but for the most part the Democratic Party over the past few years has clearly chosen moderates over further left leaning candidates with Biden being the obvious example.  Not wanting to repeat the mistake that Republicans made in 2016 allowing a radical like Trump win the primary or the liberals in the UK made swinging too far left with Corbyn in the 2019, you saw the Dem primary candidate field choose to self narrow and coalesce behind a moderate like Biden to ensure Bernie didn't gain momentum and pull a majority in a split field.  Among rank and file Dems, this was a very popular result.  Bernie supporters didn't like it but that's par for the course.  More radical right wingers hated moderates in their party when they managed to control the looneys.  If Rs had done this behind Kasich in 2016, we’d all be far better off.  Unfortunately, those days seem gone for the Republican Party.

The Dem success in the 2018 midterms was almost exclusively tied to running qualified moderate candidates in areas outside the leftmost districts.  At least in the short term of the next 4 years, I don't see the wild swing left many fear.  Now if Biden is a one term president without making any progress in 'healing the rift' and either Trump returns to win or , even worse, someone eager to exploit many of the same vulnerabilities in the country but isn't actually an emotionally stunted moron, all bets are off. 

Personally I'm not optimistic long term.  Between the Trump base and the far left wing, there are too many voters that seem to have little to no tether to reality.  That kind of ignorance and stupidity usually has harsh repercussions. 

I keep seeing people declaring that this election saved our democracy, which seems naïve.  I think it's far more likely that all we did was temporarily chase away the largest buzzard from a dying carcass.  

i voted for kasich, when trump took the nomination i knew my party had jumped the shark.

i might be a little more optimistic about the long term, but the division in this country must be narrowed dramatically. the voices of the fringes need to be drowned out. 

2 hours ago, binkybink77 said:

This actually isn't totally true.  There is an entire cottage industry built around bilking Medicare dollars for people to "stay home to care for a family member or friend".  

I actually just heard about this a month or so ago. I don't know how much it is though but any little bit helps and it's great IMO

11 hours ago, The Norseman said:

There's going to be a lot of that over the next four years.  The honeymoon period with this guy will be short lived.  That being said, I think he is handling the transition well and trying to calm everyone down.  Unlike Trump he does have some grace. 

Agree. I enjoyed his victory speech because he said EXACTLY what i wanted him to focus on.  Uniting and beating covid.  That’s it. Now get it done

20 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Agree. I enjoyed his victory speech because he said EXACTLY what i wanted him to focus on.  Uniting and beating covid.  That’s it. Now get it done

Yep. And even if he can’t beat COVID himself, at least get out of the way. And stay off Twitter so that the American people can go back to ignoring the President and focusing on Congress.

6 minutes ago, Thrive said:

Yep. And even if he can’t beat COVID himself, at least get out of the way. And stay off Twitter so that the American people can go back to ignoring the President and focusing on Congress.

When i say " beat”that’s basically what i mean.  Stay out of the way if the professionals and give them the tools they need 

On 11/8/2020 at 4:15 PM, bobeph said:

The only thing that scares me about Biden and Harris, and "The Squad” is that they are going to try to push our country to a socialist economy and a communist government.  Honestly, other than that I am totally fine with President elect Joseph Biden.

so for you diehard Democrats, is this something that you are also hoping for or willing to accept?

I don’t give a crap what you say one way or the other, I am literally just curious.

BIDEN 2020!

I’m a lifelong republican that voted for Biden. A republican senate will keep far far left ideas from passing. I’m fine with more liberal policies and rolling back a lot of Trumps policies, but I am def not down with Bernie type policies

On 11/8/2020 at 5:36 PM, Joe Shades 73 said:

It will be another nut like Cruz or Trump again

need a kasich type

Thread title lies.

Not a serious question.

2024 Republican ticket:

Nikki Haley - President

Daniel Cameron - Vice President

She will be first female POTUS (unless something happens to Joe in next 4 years......)

He will be the first black VP.

2 minutes ago, NVeagle said:

2024 Republican ticket:

Nikki Haley - President

Daniel Cameron - Vice President

She will be first female POTUS (unless something happens to Joe in next 4 years......)

He will be the first black VP.

Pssssh, identity politics 

10 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

Agree. I enjoyed his victory speech because he said EXACTLY what i wanted him to focus on.  Uniting and beating covid.  That’s it. Now get it done

I honestly don't think he has to do much.  I know everyone in here is hyper focused on masks, but I honestly think that's more because Trump wasn't.  Either way, a mask mandate certainly can't hurt....but it doesn't appear to have stopped the spread in the European countries that have mandated it.  

The vaccine will come in the next month or two and once the elderly population is protected we can all take a deep breath.  The media will then focus on the greatly reduced death rates (instead of new cases) and we can start to get back to normal.  I hope that by the time Biden is inaugurated much of this will already be in play. 

9 hours ago, homerpat said:

need a kasich type

Agree in terms of his approach,  but probably not his demographic.  The republicans are going to need to find a way to keep the "new Trump right" working class engaged, so they are going to need his public endorsement of a candidate to get out the vote.  This is especially true if mail in voting remains as strong as it was in this election.  They're going to be looking for a new school candidate who was connected to Trump....but not too connected. 

On 11/8/2020 at 4:35 PM, bobeph said:

Go all of the Way back to when he made fun of a handicap journalist.  That was terrible.  

Actually, he made those exact same gestures with his hands towards others that weren't handicapped.....just saying, be careful of the fake news

3 hours ago, EagleVA said:

Actually, he made those exact same gestures with his hands towards others that weren't handicapped.....just saying, be careful of the fake news

Yeah, that video of him acting disabled and mocking people with disabilities was the best CGI I have ever seen.  I heard they used a fish eye lens to shoot it too.

On 11/9/2020 at 11:43 PM, NVeagle said:

2024 Republican ticket:

Nikki Haley - President

Daniel Cameron - Vice President

She will be first female POTUS (unless something happens to Joe in next 4 years......)

He will be the first black VP.

Nope

2024: Trump

2028: Don Jr

You're stuck with them. Enjoy it. 

On 11/8/2020 at 4:18 PM, EaglesRocker97 said:

They lost seats in the House and are unlikely to take the Senate, so I think the pressure from the left flank will be much less than people anticipated. Honestly, it really wouldn't be in Biden's best interest to seriously appease for at least the first half of this term.

I've read a few articles that state McConnell and Biden had a very good relationship when Biden was the VP and MM thinks very highly of him. Not that I think McConnell will get the senate to approve everything the president puts forward, but at least there is a friendship that can be a building block.

Although the old McConnell might be gone after the last administration.