What is the final outcome?

[JohnSnowsHair]

After all is said and done.

[we_gotta_believe]

He'll use claims of fraud to delay certification. He'll attempt to appoint his own electors. He'll contest legal challenges to the state legislatures attempting to do so. He'll try to drag it out as long as possible, but eventually it'll fail, primarily for one reason: he's a failure. Once that has all unfolded, he'll pack up and leave in the middle of the night leaving behind the smelly skidmarks of clearly the worst president of the modern era.

 

[SPIDER-MAN]

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He'll use claims of fraud to delay certification. He'll attempt to appoint his own electors. He'll contest legal challenges to the state legislatures attempting to do so. He'll try to drag it out as long as possible, but eventually it'll fail, primarily for one reason: he's a failure. Once that has all unfolded, he'll pack up and leave in the middle of the night leaving behind the smelly skidmarks of clearly the worst president of the modern era.

 

Can Trump actually do that? Or does he think he can do that like so many other things he thought he could do, but didn't have the power.

I chose: Trump makes no concession, must be physically removed

[Seventy_Yard_FG]

I think it’ll be like 1876.  Trump will raise enough questions that the potential for a constitutional crises will loom.  The parties in Congress will make some kind of deal to elect Biden but Trump will draw some face saving concession

[VanHammersly]

12 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I think it’ll be like 1876.  Trump will raise enough questions that the potential for a constitutional crises will loom.  The parties in Congress will make some kind of deal to elect Biden but Trump will draw some face saving concession

  "make some kind of deal"

Republicans: Who got more electoral votes?

Democrats: Biden.

Republicans: Okay, so, I've got an offer for you.  Biden wins the election.

Democrats: Deal.

[EaglesRocker97]

8 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

Can Trump actually do that?

Trump cannot do it, but states with GOP-controlled legislatures could conceivably transmit a slate of Electors to Congress. If two slates are provided to Congress, one presumably with the Governor's imprimatur and the other from the legislature, the law is murky, to put it mildly, as to how the discrepancy is resolved. At the heart of the matter is that Pence is President of the Senate, and the VP has presiding authority over the counting of Electoral Votes.

[Seventy_Yard_FG]

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

  "make some kind of deal"

Republicans: Who got more electoral votes?

Democrats: Biden.

Republicans: Okay, so, I've got an offer for you.  Biden wins the election.

Democrats: Deal.

We’ll see how many electoral votes there are for each side

[VanHammersly]

9 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

We’ll see how many electoral votes there are for each side

[we_gotta_believe]

14 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

Can Trump actually do that? Or does he think he can do that like so many other things he thought he could do, but didn't have the power.

I chose: Trump makes no concession, must be physically removed

Some of GOP state legislatures will try, at his urging.

9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

  "make some kind of deal"

Republicans: Who got more electoral votes?

Democrats: Biden.

Republicans: Okay, so, I've got an offer for you.  Biden wins the election.

Democrats: Deal.

[JohnSnowsHair]

20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He'll use claims of fraud to delay certification. He'll attempt to appoint his own electors. He'll contest legal challenges to the state legislatures attempting to do so. He'll try to drag it out as long as possible, but eventually it'll fail, primarily for one reason: he's a failure. Once that has all unfolded, he'll pack up and leave in the middle of the night leaving behind the smelly skidmarks of clearly the worst president of the modern era.

 

Sounds about right. If I disagreed I'd make a bet, but then I'd owe you two top shelf beers.

[EaglesRocker97]

Quote

And, yet, it is not entirely impossible to make the contrary argument,
especially if the state legislature acts to make its direct appointment of
electors before the safe-harbor deadline of six days before Monday,
December 14. This argument would depend, again, on the claim that the
state legislature was responding to an emergency analogous to a
cyberattack. Surely, if there were a cyberattack—this argument would
go—a direct legislative appointment of electors would be entitled to safe-
harbor status if made within the requisite deadline, in order to avoid
depriving the state of an opportunity to participate in the presidential
election. This direct legislative appointment would occur pursuant to
residual emergency authority that existed in state law prior to Tuesday,
November 3. There is always such residual legislative authority in the
context of a genuine emergency, this argument might add. Because the
state legislature viewed the blue shift during the canvass as a theft of the
popular will of the state, comparable to a cyberattack and thus an
equivalent emergency, the direct legislative appointment of electors is
entitled to safe harbor status in the one emergency situation as much as
the other.

This argument might not seem especially strong, but it is enough to
claim that under 3 U.S.C. § 15 neither of Pennsylvania’s electoral vote
submissions may be counted when the House has voted to count one and
the Senate has voted to count the other. Because it is an argument that in
this context supports Trump’s claim to reelection, one would expect
Republicans to make it in the run-up to January 6. The argument depends
on the further proposition that, once it is determined that Pennsylvania
has failed to appoint any electors capable of being recognized as
authoritative by Congress, then Trump has a majority of votes from all
electors authoritatively appointed: 260 of 518. One would thus expect
Republicans to make that claim as well.

Thus, January 6 approaches in this hypothetical scenario, the speculative chatter on cable and Twitter is
that if the House and Senate divide over which electoral votes from
Pennsylvania to accept, then Mike Pence as President of the Senate will
proclaim that neither counts and will use that proclamation as the basis
for declaring Trump re-elected by a majority of electors appointed.

 

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, Toty said:

Bank on it -

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho WIIL be inaugurated in January 

 

 

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[mr_hunt]

this is about what i expect:

 

"Do not expect him to concede,” one top aide said. More likely, the aide said, "he’ll say something like, ‘We can’t trust the results, but I’m not contesting them.’”

 

Another adviser said that after the legal battles and recounts, the closest the president is likely to get to a concession is, "he’ll acknowledge the results and that we’ll never know how accurate they are.”

"But we’re not there yet,” the adviser said.

[Steve 17]

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 clearly the worst president of the modern era.

 

Nah...... I'll give him second place...... and God willing I have at least 20 more years....... but hope to not see him fall to third place.

[Dave Moss]

It will end 306-232 after the recounts.  Trump will be dragged out of the White House by the military.

[DEagle7]

2 hours ago, Steve 17 said:

Nah...... I'll give him second place...... and God willing I have at least 20 more years....... but hope to not see him fall to third place.

I'll take the bait, who do ya got at number 1?

[Joe Shades 73]

I am hoping for physically  removed

[DEagle7]

5 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I am hoping for physically  removed

I mean, if we're talking about what we're hoping for...

 

[Boogyman]

I am hoping they tase him.

[Dawkins 20]

There was talk after the last election about the electors going against the way the states voted in order to keep Trump out. It didn't happen then and it won't happen now. 

I think there's zero chance he concedes but I think he leaves under his own power. 

[20dawk4life]

WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dave Moss]

1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is it good for?

[Brianfive]

I voted civil war, This is not something I want to see, but one half of the country can’t continue to hate he other half and vise versa without it eventually leading to a "civil war”,,

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing !

[Gannan]

Many have suggested that Trump is going to start his own "news" network. I'll go one better, he is such a money grubbing scam artist, it will be a streaming service. Some of the rubes here would gladly fork over $8 a month for his conspiracy nonsense and live poop tweet updates. If this happens he will probably prefer to be dragged out for ratings and to begin his crusade against Biden and the Deep State. 

[Dave Moss]