On 4/24/2020 at 10:11 PM, Grump99 said:

Just thinking out loud here.  Now that we drafted Hurts, do you think we would/could trade him?  What sort of compensation would he be worth?  He just signed a cheap one year deal. 

We could potentially recoup a draft pick as well as have a young quality backup locked up for the next four years.  It would definitely soften the blow of giving up a second rounder.

I don't think the Eagles would get much value for Sudfeld (say no more than a 6th or 7th round draft choice) because he's only thrown 25 career NFL passes.

It would be better for the Eagles to keep Sudfeld IMO unless they bring in another low cost QB to compete for the 3rd string job (or 2nd string job if Sudfeld is considered better than Jalen Hurts in the latter's rookie season).

On 4/28/2020 at 7:54 AM, time2rock said:

They weren't going to go into a string of a few regular season games without ANY backup QB (while Sudfeld was on the shelf) - especially considering Wentz's injury history and the fact that they felt they had a SB contending team.  And obviously when adding one so late (just as the regular season was about to start) and basically the need to get up to speed as quickly as possible means adding a seasoned vet.  

The issue wasn't that Josh McCown was the backup when Sudfeld was on the shelf; the issue is that Sudfeld remained behind the 40 year old McCown on the depth chart AND was not on the active roster for the playoff game against Seattle (and IIRC at least a couple of late season regular season games) even after Sudfeld got healthy.

11 hours ago, CHIP72 said:

The issue wasn't that Josh McCown was the backup when Sudfeld was on the shelf; the issue is that Sudfeld remained behind the 40 year old McCown on the depth chart AND was not on the active roster for the playoff game against Seattle (and IIRC at least a couple of late season regular season games) even after Sudfeld got healthy.

I explained why I believe that was the case just 2 posts above the one to which you responded (i.e. that they promised McCown he'd remain #2 for the remainder of the season - regardless of Sudfeld returning - when they talked him into coming out of retirement).  He probably told him he wouldn't be interested if he would serve as #2 for only a couple of weeks and then be relegated to #3.   

2 hours ago, time2rock said:

I explained why I believe that was the case just 2 posts above the one to which you responded (i.e. that they promised McCown he'd remain #2 for the remainder of the season - regardless of Sudfeld returning - when they talked him into coming out of retirement).  He probably told him he wouldn't be interested if he would serve as #2 for only a couple of weeks and then be relegated to #3.   

You didn't explain the part after the "AND".  There were games earlier in Sudfeld's time with the Eagles where he was on the active roster despite the fact the #1 and #2 quarterbacks were healthy going into a game.

There are actually more QBs out there than holes for them on teams. Not going to be much of a market for Sudfeld, and Eagles will need him as the #2 when the season opens - assuming there is a shortened off-season. Sudfeld healthy (he wasn't last year when they signed McCown) and knows the offense. 

I think all three QBs will be active more games than not as the season goes on - but Hurts might start as inactive if his learning curve is slower.

It's STudfeld

2 hours ago, FastFreddie said:

There are actually more QBs out there than holes for them on teams. Not going to be much of a market for Sudfeld, and Eagles will need him as the #2 when the season opens - assuming there is a shortened off-season. Sudfeld healthy (he wasn't last year when they signed McCown) and knows the offense. 

I think all three QBs will be active more games than not as the season goes on - but Hurts might start as inactive if his learning curve is slower.

agreed...

The Eagles can't trade Sudfeld because there is no other # 2 QB on the Team. Hurts is a # 3 and needs to learn a lot before he takes a snap from center and starts throwing passes. 

6 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

The Eagles can't trade Sudfeld because there is no other # 2 QB on the Team. Hurts is a # 3 and needs to learn a lot before he takes a snap from center and starts throwing passes. 

And yet apparently some think he's going to be ready to go as the back up from week one. 

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And yet apparently some think he's going to be ready to go as the back up from week one. 

I mean... people are overcompensating against the sheer vitriol the pick has received from some. It’s only natural. 

he resigned here cause there was no takers , if the nfl has a preseason this year he will get the team thru til the season starts to keep wentz and hurts ready for the real games. then he rides the pine or we get lucky and get a pick for him when some team looses their starter and needs a backup for their backup.

I wonder if Hurts will be ready to even take over as QB if Wentz goes down. Everything I keep reading and hearing is that Hurts is a project of a passer. I think it’s more likely at least at first Sudfeld gets to start before Hurts.

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I wonder if Hurts will be ready to even take over as QB if Wentz goes down. Everything I keep reading and hearing is that Hurts is a project of a passer. I think it’s more likely at least at first Sudfeld gets to start before Hurts.

The shortened off-season is a big deal. Going to be tougher for rookies this year than most. 
 

I think the plan would be to use Sudfeld within the same game but consider retooling the offense around Hurts if Wentz misses a chunk of time. But that might be tricky if it happens in the early going. 

13 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And yet apparently some think he's going to be ready to go as the back up from week one. 

Yeah there’s no way anyone can expect Hurts to be ready week one. We really shouldn’t expect too much from any of the rookies early in the season. They will have a lot to learn and no OTAs, and possibly no training camp to learn. 

19 minutes ago, FastFreddie said:

The shortened off-season is a big deal. Going to be tougher for rookies this year than most. 
 

I think the plan would be to use Sudfeld within the same game but consider retooling the offense around Hurts if Wentz misses a chunk of time. But that might be tricky if it happens in the early going. 

I think the Eagles are dressing 3 quarterbacks all season. I wonder if the emergency QB rule is still in effect where if the 3rd string guy comes in the other quarterbacks can’t come back. In today’s NFL that’s such a bad rule that needs to be eliminated especially with the longer schedules.

47 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah there’s no way anyone can expect Hurts to be ready week one. We really shouldn’t expect too much from any of the rookies early in the season. They will have a lot to learn and no OTAs, and possibly no training camp to learn. 

Yeah I mean pretty much every analyst I've heard, even those who like the pick, say he's not going to be ready to go. That he shouldn't be the back up next year, he's not ready.

32 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I mean pretty much every analyst I've heard, even those who like the pick, say he's not going to be ready to go. That he shouldn't be the back up next year, he's not ready.

That kid has a lot to learn. I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles secretly told McCown to hang around just in case we need you. 

25 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

That kid has a lot to learn. I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles secretly told McCown to hang around just in case we need you. 

I mean I have to say... I wouldn't be surprised but if that's the case then it be honest it really does bring back the question as to why we drafted Hurts.

I read somewhere that they are opening a slot or 2 for gameday rosters too.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean I have to say... I wouldn't be surprised but if that's the case then it be honest it really does bring back the question as to why we drafted Hurts.

It’s been my question from the moment of the selection. I was puzzled looking at DP on my television all smiles after this pick. None of it makes sense.

On 4/24/2020 at 10:11 PM, Grump99 said:

What sort of compensation would he be worth?

7th at best. He sucks. He’s only worth something in the eyes of deranged eagles fans. 

10 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

7th at best. He sucks. He’s only worth something in the eyes of deranged eagles fans. 

Yeah I mean perhaps a swap of picks in the sixth if a team really wanted to trade for him? Can't see it though. He's just not that good. 

I've not read through all of this, but to me it seems pretty clear:

1) The Eagles have next to no faith in Sudfeld to be anything more than an emergency option who knows the system well and their actions over the past few years have shown that.

2) It is highly unlikely that Hurts will be ready to back up Wentz early in the season for various reasons that I am sure people have discussed in this thread. Unless we sign another veteran QB - we need him, probably for the whole year.

3) Sudfeld has next to no trade value.