DeathByEagle Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Portyansky said: Now we need to go after Robinson. You must be playing Madden Franchise with the salary cap turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Portyansky said: Now we need to go after Robinson. It sucks that we're in cap hell because there's some nice FA this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, What The F said: Hopefully all of them. Kelce and Ertz? I think Brandon Graham is the only one that is safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain F Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, [TSM]_PimpDaddyPain said: Kelce and Ertz? I think Brandon Graham is the only one that is safe Eagles 30 or over on the roster Peters 39 - Retire/Cut Kelce 33 Maybe retire? BG 32 Stay Curry 32 Stay/Cut? Brooks 31 Stay Malik Jackson 31 Stay/Cut? Alshon 31 Gone Lane 30 Stay McLeod 30 Stay Ertz 30 Trade? Goodwin 30 Cut? Cox 30 Stay Slay 30 Stay So, I guess we will likely roll into the season with 7/8 guys 30 or over. This team seriously needs some talented youth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, What The F said: Eagles 30 or over on the roster Peters 39 - Retire/Cut Kelce 33 Maybe retire? BG 32 Stay Curry 32 Stay/Cut? Brooks 31 Stay Malik Jackson 31 Stay/Cut? Alshon 31 Gone Lane 30 Stay McLeod 30 Stay Ertz 30 Trade? Goodwin 30 Cut? Cox 30 Stay Slay 30 Stay So, I guess we will likely roll into the season with 7/8 guys 30 or over. This team seriously needs some talented youth. Ah true, I thought some of them were 29 still lol....either way definitely gonna be a youth movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Reglar Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 hours ago, DBW said: Lurie: how do you intend to fix the team and make us perennial contenders again? howie: simple, I’m going to undo every single thing I did for the last 4.5 years lurie: I love it Sometimes players don't get better over time? Giving players, as they age and get worse, periodic raises, does not really seem like the best way to go, but they are known quantities, and popular players. I tend to think that expensive dline is fine, should be restructured, as well as the oline, generally. There are players who will need to be cut, traded or restructured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Reglar Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 hours ago, time2rock said: This was expected following the recent restructure of his contract. It helped us by freeing up some cap space and it helps him ... the new contract calls for us to pay him $25M for the 2022 season if he is still on the roster when the new league year starts. It gives him a guarantee we’ll release him rather than hold on to him and attempt to trade him. Malik Jackson will also be cut for the same reason. The combination of the Jeffrey cut and the Malik Jackson cut will save the Eagles $21 Million off the cap this year. That right there, those 2 cuts, takes care of half of the over the cap problem the Eagles have. Those 2 cuts, pretty much, make it so, with restructuring, they can get under the cap without getting rid of anybody else. But they might want some cap room to do some things, like sign rookies, but the Eagles need to get under the cap by 3/17, they can do more things after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwide Schrude Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, Random Reglar said: Sometimes players don't get better over time? Giving players, as they age and get worse, periodic raises, does not really seem like the best way to go, but they are known quantities, and popular players. I tend to think that expensive dline is fine, should be restructured, as well as the oline, generally. There are players who will need to be cut, traded or restructured. I don’t have receipts, but Alshon being re-signed that year was pretty well received if I remember right. His huge decline & injury issues was surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 No surprise here. It has to be done. More moves to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle45 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said: I don’t have receipts, but Alshon being re-signed that year was pretty well received if I remember right. His huge decline & injury issues was surprising. Re-sign after SB was well received, as it should have been. The extension after that...there were those who just cheered on anything, but a lot of people questioned that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Reglar Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said: I don’t have receipts, but Alshon being re-signed that year was pretty well received if I remember right. His huge decline & injury issues was surprising. I would guess that long term contracts for vets are better in the beginning of the contract than in the end. I'm not trying to make the case that any particular move was a bad one. It's just that certain results come from certain actions, I'm not saying those actions shouldn't have been taken because all the results weren't always great, may be well have been the best choice, or an acceptably good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I mean this isn't exactly news as we knew this was coming. When they restructured Jeffrey's and M.Jackson's deals we knew that they were going to cut them. Both players agreed to those restructured deals so they could get out at the beginning of FA and give themselves the best chance of getting a move that they want with a good contract to go with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 hours ago, What The F said: Eagles 30 or over on the roster Peters 39 - Retire/Cut Kelce 33 Maybe retire? BG 32 Stay Curry 32 Stay/Cut? Brooks 31 Stay Malik Jackson 31 Stay/Cut? Alshon 31 Gone Lane 30 Stay McLeod 30 Stay Ertz 30 Trade? Goodwin 30 Cut? Cox 30 Stay Slay 30 Stay So, I guess we will likely roll into the season with 7/8 guys 30 or over. This team seriously needs some talented youth. If they’re in full rebuild mode many of these guys will have to go. This is shaping up like a complete tear down. It’s all about clearing space for ‘22. If they’re gonna eat dead money this is the year to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: If they’re in full rebuild mode many of these guys will have to go. This is shaping up like a complete tear down. It’s all about clearing space for ‘22. If they’re gonna eat dead money this is the year to do it. Absolutely yes! That is key to this. They need to clear the roster, clear the cap and eat the dead money this year because they know they aren't going to be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: If they’re in full rebuild mode many of these guys will have to go. This is shaping up like a complete tear down. It’s all about clearing space for ‘22. If they’re gonna eat dead money this is the year to do it. Yeah, that's the truth. But if you ask me, I couldn't wait for Jeffery to get out of the door, rebuild or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Absolutely yes! That is key to this. They need to clear the roster, clear the cap and eat the dead money this year because they know they aren't going to be competitive. Exactly. Cox, Johnson, Brooks and maybe Kelce stay. Ertz, Slay, Barnett, Curry, Graham? They're all goners, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochis_Calhoun Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Exactly. Cox, Johnson, Brooks and maybe Kelce stay. Ertz, Slay, Barnett, Curry, Graham? They're all goners, one way or another. Barnett is 24 and even if he tests free agency he's unlikely to get an astronomical offer, I'd say he's one that survives and my money would be on Johnson only staying to maintain some continuity if Kelce retires and maybe not even then, he wasn't great last season even when he was healthy which wasn't very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Ertz, Slay, Barnett, Curry, Graham? They're all goners, one way or another. I am pretty sure Slay will stay. And I think Graham might stay too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Random Reglar said: Malik Jackson will also be cut for the same reason. The combination of the Jeffrey cut and the Malik Jackson cut will save the Eagles $21 Million off the cap this year. That right there, those 2 cuts, takes care of half of the over the cap problem the Eagles have. Those 2 cuts, pretty much, make it so, with restructuring, they can get under the cap without getting rid of anybody else. But they might want some cap room to do some things, like sign rookies, but the Eagles need to get under the cap by 3/17, they can do more things after that. They have to cut Malik for the same reason they will cut Jeffery ... their restructured deals contain a clause that they will pay them $25M for the 2021 season if they are on the roster for the start of the league year. That gives them the guarantee they will indeed be cut early so they can look for employment elsewhere (and not drag this out thinking they can trade them). And the cap savings is a hair off ... it yields $18.8M in immediate savings (with additional savings to be realized after June 1st). It is all outlined in the link below. And you can bet they will cut Goodwin - that yields another $4.23M in cap relief. Have to believe Ertz is gone too - another $4.7M. https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-cap-room-2021-eagles-howie-roseman-alshon-jeffery-malik-jackson-zach-ertz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Exactly. Cox, Johnson, Brooks and maybe Kelce stay. Ertz, Slay, Barnett, Curry, Graham? They're all goners, one way or another. I guess the issue they have with some of those players is what is the cap hit if they trade them? Some of them the cap hit will be very low but what about someone like Slay? Curry is gone anyway isn't he? He was only on a one year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cochis_Calhoun Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, time2rock said: They have to cut Malik for the same reason they will cut Jeffery ... their restructured deals contain a clause that they will pay them $25M for the 2021 season if they are on the roster for the start of the league year. That gives them the guarantee they will indeed be cut early so they can look for employment elsewhere (and not drag this out thinking they can trade them). And the cap savings is a hair off ... it yields $18.8M in immediate savings (with additional savings to be realized after June 1st). It is all outlined in the link below. And you can bet they will cut Goodwin - that yields another $4.23M in cap relief. Have to believe Ertz is gone too - another $4.7M. https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-cap-room-2021-eagles-howie-roseman-alshon-jeffery-malik-jackson-zach-ertz Ertz they may try and get a 5th off someone but at this stage after eating Wentz dead money alongside the hole we were already in capwise other teams know we need money off the books fast and will cut if we can't trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I guess the issue they have with some of those players is what is the cap hit if they trade them? Some of them the cap hit will be very low but what about someone like Slay? Curry is gone anyway isn't he? He was only on a one year deal? If they trade Slay they save $6 million in cap space but have to eat almost $10 million in dead money. They can do a post-June designation and save even more but that would push money into '22 which is what they're trying to avoid. Yes, Curry is a UFA and it's hard to see him coming back at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Portyansky said: Now we need to go after Robinson. With what money? Shedding Alshon’s contract and the other vets that are sure to be let go is just to get out from being OVER the cap. They still aren’t going to be able to afford Robinson or really any decent free agents. 2022 should be good, but we’re not getting any reinforcements other than the draft this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Infam said: I am pretty sure Slay will stay. And I think Graham might stay too. Hard to see. Slay was a below-average cornerback last year and Graham is on the wrong side of 32. Moreover, they have a combined cap hit of almost $34 million dollars. Why not clear that out now and continue with the rebuild? It's a lost season and Howie seems focused on getting out from under all these bad deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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