April 25, 20205 yr I see a lot of small minded responses here. We all saw what happened with the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. We saw how Andy Reid's offense evolved into a SB Championship team. We saw how the Eagles incorporated Chip Kelly concepts to cap a SB Championship season. The team hired Rich Scangerello from Denver. This offense will continue to evolve and DP has demonstrated he is a sound and innovative offensive coach. This team is capable of cooking up some innovative and exciting offensive schemes that haven't been played out in the NFL yet.
April 25, 20205 yr 19 minutes ago, Procus said: Let's look at the Eagles history through the past 20 years. AJ Feeley - drafted in the 5th, flipped to Miami for a second. Kevin Kolb - drafted in the 2nd, flipped for second and fourth round picks and DRC. Sam Bradford - acquired in a trade for Nick Foles. Flipped for a first round pick to Minnesota 🤣🤣 Look at the team's history before freaking out. He'll be in the Philly QB room, he will be contributing on the field even while Wentz is healthy, he has experience running Lincoln Riley's offense, he'll be an able back up, and yes, he will likely get flipped for a first round pick before his rookie contract is up. Too many needs. Take a QB in the 4th round if you want, you have three 4th round picks. 2nd was too high.
April 25, 20205 yr 16 minutes ago, Procus said: Who gives a crap if you're waiting. The Eagles will do what's good for the team. And for that matter, if the offense evolves with two QB's on the field at the same time, so be it. The Eagles will do what's in the best interests of the team, period. Dick Vermeil Yeah, because picks never bust and humans never make mistakes. Got it.
April 25, 20205 yr It really isn't all that different from what the Patriots have done for two decades with Brady at the helm. So many of the Patriots backups have gone on to starting gigs in the NFL and the Patriots benefited from a lot of draft picks in trades. It honestly isn't a bad idea to pick a draft pick that will accumulate multiple picks in the future potentially. Especially when you have paid the franchise QB and cheap draft talent is where the team will need to find most of its talent going forward to stay competitive.
April 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said: https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/2020-nfl-draft-only-one-way-interpret-eagles-second-round-jalen-hurts-carson-wentz That didn't take long, the local guys have already started peddling the QB controversy narrative. Wait till the national media gets a hold of it tomorrow. Skip Bayless, Max Kellerman, and the Josina Anderson's of the world are gonna have field a day and season. Thanks a lot Howie you witless F***. Somewhere Bobby is smiling.
April 25, 20205 yr This has been the offseason of offseasons when it comes to the Eagles sending mixed messages. From the moment they got put out the playoffs they have done nothing but contradict themselves, and made convoluted choices. From the OC hunt to the draft has been nothing but head scratching moves for the most part. The media is gonna have a field day with this. Imagine mid September if Wentz has three consecutive bad games. The boo birds will fly. The demand for his benching will fill the radios. The Eagles totally screwed this all up.
April 25, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, Procus said: I see a lot of small minded responses here. We all saw what happened with the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. We saw how Andy Reid's offense evolved into a SB Championship team. We saw how the Eagles incorporated Chip Kelly concepts to cap a SB Championship season. The team hired Rich Scangerello from Denver. This offense will continue to evolve and DP has demonstrated he is a sound and innovative offensive coach. This team is capable of cooking up some innovative and exciting offensive schemes that haven't been played out in the NFL yet. No matter how you slice it bro you don’t see teams running two QBs at the same time systems so what’s the point?
April 25, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/2020-nfl-draft-only-one-way-interpret-eagles-second-round-jalen-hurts-carson-wentz That didn't take long, the local guys have already started peddling the QB controversy narrative. Wait till the national media gets a hold of it tomorrow. Skip Bayless, Max Kellerman, and the Josina Anderson's of the world are gonna have field a day and season. Thanks a lot Howie you witless F***. Reuben is right unfortunately. No matter what nonsense the Eagles are pushing this move makes it seem like they’re second questing the franchise.
April 25, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, Devaster said: It really isn't all that different from what the Patriots have done for two decades with Brady at the helm. So many of the Patriots backups have gone on to starting gigs in the NFL and the Patriots benefited from a lot of draft picks in trades. It honestly isn't a bad idea to pick a draft pick that will accumulate multiple picks in the future potentially. Especially when you have paid the franchise QB and cheap draft talent is where the team will need to find most of its talent going forward to stay competitive. It's not a bad idea if your team is already stacked. When your team has holes everywhere and your QB needs to make it through a season healthy, you improve your team now rather than treating draft picks like a hedge fund manager.
April 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: Let's look at the Eagles history through the past 20 years. AJ Feeley - drafted in the 5th, flipped to Miami for a second. Kevin Kolb - drafted in the 2nd, flipped for second and fourth round picks and DRC. Sam Bradford - acquired in a trade for Nick Foles. Flipped for a first round pick to Minnesota 🤣🤣 Look at the team's history before freaking out. He'll be in the Philly QB room, he will be contributing on the field even while Wentz is healthy, he has experience running Lincoln Riley's offense, he'll be an able back up, and yes, he will likely get flipped for a first round pick before his rookie contract is up. What if he never plays or he blows? Then it's a huge waste of a 2nd round pick. I was so ready for them to get Mims or Zack Baun. But instead they do this. Howie is good at swinging trades and the salary cap but drafting he is terrible. Ita pretty much been proven now.
April 25, 20205 yr 24 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: This has been the offseason of offseasons when it comes to the Eagles sending mixed messages. From the moment they got put out the playoffs they have done nothing but contradict themselves, and made convoluted choices. From the OC hunt to the draft has been nothing but head scratching moves for the most part. The media is gonna have a field day with this. Imagine mid September if Wentz has three consecutive bad games. The boo birds will fly. The demand for his benching will fill the radios. The Eagles totally screwed this all up. ^^^^^^^^
April 25, 20205 yr 46 minutes ago, Devaster said: It really isn't all that different from what the Patriots have done for two decades with Brady at the helm. So many of the Patriots backups have gone on to starting gigs in the NFL and the Patriots benefited from a lot of draft picks in trades. It honestly isn't a bad idea to pick a draft pick that will accumulate multiple picks in the future potentially. Especially when you have paid the franchise QB and cheap draft talent is where the team will need to find most of its talent going forward to stay competitive. I’d have been fine with it if they didn’t piss away picks over the last 4-5 years. The fact they can’t evaluate corners high or WR in general has made it that they don’t really have the luxury to draft for later assets. When you miss on Matthews, huff, agholor, JJAW, hollins and then add on jones and Douglas you need picks for the immediate impact holes and future. They not only missed on those picks but compounded the situation by making multiple trades where 3 3rd rounders were dealt away. Only slay is on the team still and for who knows how long at 29. that is the problem. You don’t have the luxury of using a pick now to get future assets when you basically failed at wr with a first, two seconds and a third rounders and then failed on a 2nd and 3rd round corner And then dealt away 3 more thirds
April 25, 20205 yr I knew they'd run with this. They won't stop for a couple seasons either. Every presser will start with when could Jalen start if needed?
April 25, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, 315Eagles said: What if he never plays or he blows? Then it's a huge waste of a 2nd round pick. I was so ready for them to get Mims or Zack Baun. But instead they do this. Howie is good at swinging trades and the salary cap but drafting he is terrible. Ita pretty much been proven now. Jeez. He was just drafted a few hours ago. Let this play itself out. The guy was a Heisman runner up.
April 25, 20205 yr 37 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: No matter how you slice it bro you don’t see teams running two QBs at the same time systems so what’s the point? Correction - you haven't seen teams running two QB's at the same time. Who knows what the future holds.
April 25, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Jeez. He was just drafted a few hours ago. Let this play itself out. The guy was a Heisman runner up. You honestly are ok with this move? If the Cowboys did this in a similar scenario we would all be laughing at them.
April 25, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Correction - you haven't seen teams running two QB's at the same time. Who knows what the future holds. If that’s the plan for the Eagles I foresee a lot of stupid football.
April 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Devaster said: It really isn't all that different from what the Patriots have done for two decades with Brady at the helm. So many of the Patriots backups have gone on to starting gigs in the NFL and the Patriots benefited from a lot of draft picks in trades. It honestly isn't a bad idea to pick a draft pick that will accumulate multiple picks in the future potentially. Especially when you have paid the franchise QB and cheap draft talent is where the team will need to find most of its talent going forward to stay competitive. Everyone needs to stop comparing any move to the Patriots. When the Eagles have the best HC and QB of all time and win 6 championships they can start doing those kind of things. When you're desperate at LB, WR, corner and need depth or replacements at DE and O line you don't take a backup QB in the 2nd round.
April 25, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Procus said: Jeez. He was just drafted a few hours ago. Let this play itself out. The guy was a Heisman runner up. You seem to feel he'll be good enough to trade for a 1st before his contract is up. You stated this. I'm just saying what if the opposite happens? What if he doesnt play well? Lots of guys have won or been Heisman runner ups. Doesnt mean they will be good in the NFL.
April 25, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, NOTW said: Everyone needs to stop comparing any move to the Patriots. When the Eagles have the best HC and QB of all time and win 6 championships they can start doing those kind of things. When you're desperate at LB, WR, corner and need depth or replacements at DE and O line you don't take a backup QB in the 2nd round. But we really shouldn’t be surprised. The Eagles have been wasting 2nd round picks on backups and developmental players since Howie’s been back.
April 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Devaster said: It really isn't all that different from what the Patriots have done for two decades with Brady at the helm. So many of the Patriots backups have gone on to starting gigs in the NFL and the Patriots benefited from a lot of draft picks in trades. It honestly isn't a bad idea to pick a draft pick that will accumulate multiple picks in the future potentially. Especially when you have paid the franchise QB and cheap draft talent is where the team will need to find most of its talent going forward to stay competitive. IMO, it really is a LOT different from the Pats. Wentz isn't Brady and Doug isn't Belichek. Wentz doesn't have a titanium vice grip on his reputation and job and Doug isn't regarded by the entire planet as the world's greatest football mind. So the entire NFL isn't lining up to trade for their #2 QB. Hurts wasn't some projected top 15 pick who had a surprising fall because he was raw, got scooped up like a buy-low blue chip stock, and will be dished for multiple picks in the future. He's a 2-3rd round QB prospect with flaws...3 anonymous years as a backup aren't going to have teams lining up to trade 2nd round picks for him.
April 25, 20205 yr Just now, 315Eagles said: You seem to feel he'll be good enough to trade for a 1st before his contract is up. You stated this. I'm just saying what if the opposite happens? What if he doesnt play well? Lots of guys have won or been Heisman runner ups. Doesnt mean they will be good in the NFL. Frankly you have to play to be valued as a 1st round trade option, so if he’s played himself into being a 1st then frankly he’s not the expendable one. Carson is.
April 25, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: Can't believe I'm saying this, but if they wanted insurance or had lost faith in Wentz, then they should have just traded to bring Foles back. or never let him go in the first place
April 25, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: If that’s the plan for the Eagles I foresee a lot of stupid football. Didn’t we trade McNabb after this experiment? I kid, I kid. I know that was Vick and I also remember Kolb’s coming out party while McNabb went down with another injury. Wait a minute.....
April 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Lloyd said: It's hard enough to draft QBs in the first round. So now we're hoping to peddle pick #53 into what? Pick #44? in 2023? We could have held a referendum on Sudfeld with a 4th rounder. Yep the whole point of a QB factory is to draft a QB in Round 4 or later and then deal them for a 2nd or 3rd to gain a profit in drafting. What profit are we going to get by drafting a QB in the 2nd just to deal him in the 2nd, if that, a couple of years later?
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