2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Frankly you have to play to be valued as a 1st round trade option, so if he’s played himself into being a 1st then frankly he’s not the expendable one. Carson is. 

That's a good point but Bradford didnt exactly play himself into being a 1st.  Kolb didnt play himself into becoming a 2nd.  A certain team or teams have to really like Hurts and see enough that they want him.

If you ask me, Howie is full of it.

2 minutes ago, Makilavelli said:

Didn’t we trade McNabb after this experiment? I kid, I kid. I know that was Vick and I also remember Kolb’s coming out party while McNabb went down with another injury. Wait a minute.....

Jamis Winston is still out there. Might as well add him to the mix too. He can play Mike Vick. 

3 minutes ago, Makilavelli said:

Didn’t we trade McNabb after this experiment? I kid, I kid. I know that was Vick and I also remember Kolb’s coming out party while McNabb went down with another injury. Wait a minute.....

Drafting Kolb was the beginning of the end for Mcnabb.

Drafting Lamar Jackson was the beginning of a quick end for Flacco.

I find it comical that Howie would compare these situations to Wentz/Hurts.

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Jamis Winston is still out there. Might as well add him to the mix too. He can play Mike Vick. 

Winston to Eagles confirmed 😄

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Drafting Kolb was the beginning of the end for Mcnabb.

Drafting Lamar Jackson was the beginning of a quick end for Flacco.

I find it comical that Howie would compare these situations to Wentz/Hurts.

Honestly, I think Howie has bought into the narrative that Carson is injury prone. I thought it was telling that nobody higher up or Doug took exception to Clowney's dirty hit. Now, they draft a QB. I think they feel Wentz is injury prone and now they are hedging their bets by drafting Hurts. But, you just can't do that this year.  Wentz can't be happy.  I give him credit for texting Hurts and welcoming him. But, I have to believe that Wentz wants out now.

Just now, 315Eagles said:

That's a good point but Bradford didnt exactly play himself into being a 1st.  Kolb didnt play himself into becoming a 2nd.  A certain team or teams have to really like Hurts and see enough that they want him.

If you ask me, Howie is full of it.

Sam Bradford had some kind of magical hold on NFL GMs. I don’t know how that guy go paid! Let’s get to Kolb now. First off the Eagles did not draft him in order to flip him. He was supposed to the the heir apparent until Mike Vick showed up. That made McNabb and Kolb expendable. Secondly Kolb actually played some outstanding part time football. Things got bad when he was asked to be the guy and that’s when he would choke like nobody’s business. So if Hurts plays well enough to basically be a 2nd what is the point of drafting him at all?

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Jamis Winston is still out there. Might as well add him to the mix too. He can play Mike Vick. 

Then he can declare it's like..like a..a Dream Team!

1 minute ago, CaliEagle said:

Honestly, I think Howie has bought into the narrative that Carson is injury prone. I thought it was telling that nobody higher up or Doug took exception to Clowney's dirty hit. Now, they draft a QB. I think they feel Wentz is injury prone and now they are hedging their bets by drafting Hurts. But, you just can't do that this year.  Wentz can't be happy.  I give him credit for texting Hurts and welcoming him. But, I have to believe that Wentz wants out now.

Carson was on the breaking point dealing with Foles winning the SB with his team. You heard the stories coming out how he wasn’t being a good teammate at the time. A story he basically confirmed himself. There’s also a chance he hid his back injury for weeks trying to avoid Foles going back out there. He did anyway and led the Eagles to the playoffs. Sorry, but that doesn’t fly with a young QB. If Hurts pulls a Foles and if the Eagles try to reinstall Wentz that locker room will implode. 

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Then he can declare it's like..like a..a Dream Team!

Wasn’t this GM the orchestrator of the Dream Team? Just sayin....

8 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

Honestly, I think Howie has bought into the narrative that Carson is injury prone. I thought it was telling that nobody higher up or Doug took exception to Clowney's dirty hit. Now, they draft a QB. I think they feel Wentz is injury prone and now they are hedging their bets by drafting Hurts. But, you just can't do that this year.  Wentz can't be happy.  I give him credit for texting Hurts and welcoming him. But, I have to believe that Wentz wants out now.

I think Howie buys into my worst fear....that this roster is fine because they beat a bunch of bad teams at the end of last season to back into a playoff spot.

Basically he is smelling his own delusional farts..... even though they really do stink.

Just now, DevilMayRage said:

I think Howie buys into my worst fear....that this roster is fine because they beat a bunch of bad teams at the end of last season to back into a playoff spot.

Basically he is smelling his own delusional farts..... even though they really do stink.

Yep. I think we are worse at LB, if that's even possible. The secondary is about the same as last year.  We need another safety and could use more competition at CB.  Our OL depth isn't there now.  Howie drafted like we were the SB champs with hardly any holes.  Just crazy.

18 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Sam Bradford had some kind of magical hold on NFL GMs. I don’t know how that guy go paid! Let’s get to Kolb now. First off the Eagles did not draft him in order to flip him. He was supposed to the the heir apparent until Mike Vick showed up. That made McNabb and Kolb expendable. Secondly Kolb actually played some outstanding part time football. Things got bad when he was asked to be the guy and that’s when he would choke like nobody’s business. So if Hurts plays well enough to basically be a 2nd what is the point of drafting him at all?

Exactly this. When they drafted Kolb, it was to be the eventual starter. Reid has his timings right on McNabb.

Feeley - 5th round developmental. Bradford was brought in to be the guy.

If you genuinely want insurance for Wentz, you draft a guy later and/or sign someone like Flacco or Keenum.

Taking a QB in the second should only be if you one day expect him to be your starter.

1 minute ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Exactly this. When they drafted Kolb, it was to be the eventual starter. Reid has his timings right on McNabb.

Feeley - 5th round developmental. Bradford was brought in to be the guy.

If you genuinely want insurance for Wentz, you draft a guy later and/or sign someone like Flacco or Keenum.

Taking a QB in the second should only be if you one day expect him to be your starter.

Seriously how do you tell a 2nd round pick "you’re here just so we can flip you for something better.” Does that even make sense? 

Your topic is misleading.  Reuben Frank is saying that the Eagles might have concerns over Wentz' health NOT whether or not "he's the guy".  

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Seriously how do you tell a 2nd round pick "you’re here just so we can flip you for something better.” Does that even make sense? 

No - Hurts seems like a good guy, but you can tell he’s as confused as we are.

Roob has always been a lower tier writer on the Philly sports scene.  He rarely provides any good insight.  I wouldn't place too much credence in his drivel.

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Seriously how do you tell a 2nd round pick "you’re here just so we can flip you for something better.” Does that even make sense? 

Howie repeatedly talked about value, assets and referenced their history of trading backup QBs for picks.

Great strategy.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Your topic is misleading.  Reuben Frank is saying that the Eagles might have concerns over Wentz' health NOT whether or not "he's the guy".  

Still you don’t draft a QB in the second round just cause he’s a a nice kid for the locker room and you think your starter has durability issues (which he does). 

Like I said but the whole waiting and acquiring assets is getting old. When are we going to strike NOW and hit on gold NOW. So sick of waiting and acquiring talent for what? Like I said i'm not mad i'm just confused, this move is so risky for no reason. We had the picks just sit tight and hit on them or trade down and acquire more. SO Fing pointless trying to outsmart WHO

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Howie repeatedly talked about value, assets and referenced their history of trading backup QBs for picks.

Great strategy.

Trade AJ Feely for a 2nd? Great strategy! Trade McNabb and Kolb, because Vick is a better player? Great strategy! Draft a 2nd round pick spoon that you hope you can flip him into at least a 2nd round pick?? WTF?

22 minutes ago, DevilMayRage said:

I think Howie buys into my worst fear....that this roster is fine because they beat a bunch of bad teams at the end of last season to back into a playoff spot.

Basically he is smelling his own delusional farts..... even though they really do stink.

I think Howie is my worst fear. He’s a fraud who lucked into a Super Bowl and his true crappy colors are showing once again. 

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Still you don’t draft a QB in the second round just cause he’s a a nice kid for the locker room and you think your starter has durability issues (which he does). 

It woundn't of been my pick at 53 but if you think your starting QB has durability issues, then why wouldn't you draft a guy that would be a good backup, develop him for 2-3 years....and if Wentz shows that he's no longer injury prone, the backup for what you gave up for him in the first place.  Like I said, it wouldn't of been what I would do but it's not as crazy as some here are making it out to be. 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Trade AJ Feely for a 2nd? Great strategy! Trade McNabb and Kolb, because Vick is a better player? Great strategy! Draft a 2nd round pick spoon that you hope you can flip him into at least a 2nd round pick?? WTF?

yeah I don't remember the last time i was so disappointed by a draft pick immediately.  

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

It woundn't of been my pick at 53 but if you think your starting QB has durability issues, then why wouldn't you draft a guy that would be a good backup, develop him for 2-3 years....and if Wentz shows that he's no longer injury prone, the backup for what you gave up for him in the first place.  Like I said, it wouldn't of been what I would do but it's not as crazy as some here are making it out to be. 

Because it doesn’t make any sense. You draft in the first three rounds for starters and key contributors. You don’t pick developmental players you’re planning to flip! It’s stupid. Frankly if you have a QB with durability issues then you get a competent veteran backup instead. You draft developmental players in the 5th round or later. This team needs a starting corner, possibly safety, another receiver, and another back, but instead pick a 2nd round pick who won’t play unless Carson gets injured. Do you really believe if Carson goes down in a playoff game a rookie is coming off the bench to win that game?

7 minutes ago, NOTW said:

yeah I don't remember the last time i was so disappointed by a draft pick immediately.  

It sucks for Hurts and Wentz. Both of these guys will be dealing with this. Any reporter worth his salt will be asking Hurts how he feels about never starting and will be asking Carson time and again about his backup. Just a horrible move by the Eagles.