mr_hunt Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 argue about the minimum wage here! what should it be? should the govt control it at all? breakdown by state: State 2020 Minimum Wage 2021 Minimum Wage Alabama $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) Alaska $10.19 $10.34 Arizona $12.00 $12.15 Arkansas $10.00 $11.00 California $13.00 $14.00* Colorado $12.00 $12.32 Connecticut $12.00 $13.00 (effective 8/1/21) Delaware $9.25 $10.25 Washington D.C. $15.00 $15.00 Florida $8.56 $10.00 (effective 9/30/21) Georgia $5.15 (Employers subject to Fair Labor Standards Act must pay the $7.25 Federal minimum wage.) $5.15 (Employers subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act must pay the $7.25 Federal minimum wage) Hawaii $10.10 $10.10 Idaho $7.25 $7.25 Illinois $10.00 $11.00 Indiana $7.25 $7.25 Iowa $7.25 $7.25 Kansas $7.25 $7.25 Kentucky $7.25 $7.25 Louisiana $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) Maine $12.00 $12.15 Maryland $11.00 $11.75** Massachusetts $12.75 $13.50 Michigan $9.65 $9.65 Minnesota $10.00 $10.08*** Mississippi $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) Missouri $9.45 $10.30 Montana $8.65 $8.75 Nebraska $9.00 $9.00 Nevada $8.00 $8.75 (effective 7/1/21)**** New Hampshire $7.25) $7.25 New Jersey $11.00 $12.00***** New Mexico $9.00 $10.50 New York $11.80 $12.50****** North Carolina $7.25 $7.25 North Dakota $7.25 $7.25 Ohio $8.70 $8.80 Oklahoma $7.25 $7.25 Oregon $12.00 $12.75 (effective 7/1/21)****** Pennsylvania $7.25 $7.25 Rhode Island $10.50 $11.50 South Carolina $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) South Dakota $9.30 $9.45 Tennessee $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) $7.25 (Federal, no state minimum) Texas $7.25 $7.25 Utah $7.25 $7.25 Vermont $10.96 $11.75 Virginia $7.25 $9.50 (effective 5/1/21) Washington $13.50 $13.69 West Virginia $8.75 $8.75 Wisconsin $7.25 $7.25 Wyoming $5.15 (Employers subject to Fair Labor Standards Act must pay the Federal minimum wage.) $5.15 (Employers subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act must pay the $7.25 Federal minimum wage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemack8 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 I have no feelings, other than people should be less poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I have no feelings, other than people should be less poor. i'm betting most folks would love to be less poor. i haven't done a lot of research on min wage...but my gut tells me that a jump from $7.25 to $15.00 is pretty drastic...and min wage probably shouldn't be crammed into the covid relief bill...especially since compromise no longer seems to exist in congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVeagle Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Chick Fila in Las Vegas is starting wages at $12.50/hour with nice benefits package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: i'm betting most folks would love to be less poor. i haven't done a lot of research on min wage...but my gut tells me that a jump from $7.25 to $15.00 is pretty drastic...and min wage probably shouldn't be crammed into the covid relief bill...especially since compromise no longer seems to exist in congress. Yeah, I wasn’t a math major, but I’m pretty sure $15 is more than double $7.25 I’d love to double my income. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Republicans act like if the minimum wage was $15 everyone would go out and buy a new Lexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_hunt Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Republicans act like if the minimum wage was $15 everyone would go out and buy a new Lexus. but a cheesy gordita crunch at taco bell would cost $25! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kz! Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Republicans act like if the minimum wage was $15 everyone would go out and buy a new Lexus. The primary Republican concern is that a $15 minimum wage could put many small businesses out of business. Another concern is that unemployment would rise when businesses would predictably shed positions. Mega corporations, that democrats used to hate, would easily be able to handle it and would welcome less competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas83 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Zero. The federal minimum wage should be zero. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 $150/hr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Zero. The federal minimum wage should be zero. Since we're advocating a return to the glory days of centuries passed, why not do away with all those pesky child labor laws while we're at it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: The primary Republican concern is that a $15 minimum wage could put many small businesses out of business. Another concern is that unemployment would rise when businesses would predictably shed positions. Mega corporations, that democrats used to hate, would easily be able to handle it and would welcome less competition. If I had to guess most people making less than $15 are on some sort of government assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha_TATEr Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 i don't feel completely right telling a mom & pop shop they have to pay their employees $15 an hour. the flip side is, shouldnt this force many off welfare ? i mean, a person in Pennsy could use the reason that $7.25 cant support their family so they stay on welfare. well, at $15 doesn't that excuse go away for most ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 $15 is too high in some places and barely enough in others. I've long thought that it should be pegged to something along the lines of a combination between CPI and regional/local cost-of-living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemack8 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Also - WTF Wyoming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas83 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: While we're advocating a return to the glory days of centuries passed, why not do away with all those pesky child labor laws while we're at it? Oh look, here comes the liberal queefing. Let me make it clearer for you. The FEDERAL minimum wage shouldn't exist. I said nothing about states. $15/hour in CA is a little different than $15/hour in South Dakota. It's idiotic policy. I personally would never support any minimum wage by any government -- people should be free to work for whatever wage they deem sufficient. Furthermore, the focus on nominal earnings as opposed to purchasing power reveals liberals' kindergarten level understanding of economics. A company can leave a state that passes ridiculous labor regulations (min wage, union shops, etc.). The answer shouldn't be to try and chase them out of the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Oh look, here comes the liberal queefing. Let me make it clearer for you. The FEDERAL minimum wage shouldn't exist. I said nothing about states. $15/hour in CA is a little different than $15/hour in South Dakota. It's idiotic policy. I personally would never support any minimum wage by any government -- people should be free to work for whatever wage they deem sufficient. Furthermore, the focus on nominal earnings as opposed to purchasing power reveals liberals' kindergarten level understanding of economics. A company can leave a state that passes ridiculous labor regulations (min wage, union shops, etc.). The answer shouldn't be to try and chase them out of the country. So you’d rather have more people on government assistance? That’s dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Oh look, here comes the liberal queefing. Pointing out your insanely antiquated view of the subject is "queefing," lol, ok. Your response certainly expelled much more vaginal gas than my initial reply did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas83 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: So you’d rather have more people on government assistance? That’s dumb. I'd rather not have government assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, vikas83 said: I'd rather not have government assistance Vikas would rather step over corpses in the street as he strolls to pick up his next polo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I'd rather not have government assistance I kinda figured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikas83 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Vikas would rather step over corpses in the street as he strolls to pick up his next polo. I'd rather people have to feel consequences for their poor decisions as opposed to rewarding them. Hey, you can't support your kids and decided to have MORE kids? Here's more money. Genius strategy. I am logically consistent. We have fought a war on drugs for decades that has done nothing, and I want to end it. We have fought a war on poverty for over half a century, and you liberals keep telling me it has accomplished nothing. So...maybe try something new. I support unemployment insurance funded by companies for assistance if someone is laid off. I don't support welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare or any other entitlement programs. And I will say outloud the part you think is a "gotcha" -- if someone dies because they can't afford medical care, I'll sleep fine. People need to be responsible for their own lives. And seriously? Polos are delivered dude. Only the poors walk to stores. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: And seriously? Polos are delivered dude. Only the poors walk to stores. Yeah, I actually thought right after I posted that, "Who am I kidding? This guy doesn't shop for himself." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Hey, you can't support your kids and decided to have MORE kids? Here's more money. Genius strategy. And this is the weird part where I kinda, basically agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 If we’re being honest a lot of this policy dates back to the New Deal when Republicans had no answers for the scale of human suffering. Up to that point the GOP had been able to block minimum wage laws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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