March 10, 20214 yr Just now, vikas83 said: While I would go further, this would obviously help a ton. We need to stop incentivizing and rewarding poor decisions. would it help a ton?...idk. are there statistics on women on public assistance having more babies in order to get more assistance? most agree that public assistance should be meant as a temporary thing to help folks get back on their feet so they can support themselves. anyway, we got sidetracked bigly...the original discussion here was better parenting & i think all are on board with that. what % of "crappy parents" are on public assistance? who the hell knows.
March 10, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, vikas83 said: While I would go further, this would obviously help a ton. We need to stop incentivizing and rewarding poor decisions. Sure, and especially ones that put so much stress on society like overpopulation and bad parenting. At the same time, though, I think we need to ensure that we do provide high-quality public services to ensure a fundamentally viable and healthy populace. So, sure, disincentivize irresponsibility, but fund the schools and communities that support the people.
March 10, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Sure, and especially ones that put so much stress on society like overpopulation and bad parenting. At the same time, though, I think we need to ensure that we do provide high-quality public services to ensure a fundamentally viable and healthy populace. So, sure, disincentive irresponsibility, but fund the schools and communities that support the people I'm 100% in favor of redoing school funding so it doesn't rely mainly on property taxes in the surrounding area. Equalizing opportunity means making schools better in low income communities. Pool all the money at the state level and allocate based on student census.
March 10, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I'm 100% in favor of redoing school funding so it doesn't rely mainly on property taxes in the surrounding area. Equalizing opportunity means making schools better in low income communities. Pool all the money at the state level and allocate based on student census. PA was looking at this as a implementing a state sales tax and doing away with school real estate taxes. It got axed. The biggest concern I had with it was the lobbying power of the big cities as opposed to the suburbs/rural areas. Somehow I don't think it would be fair and equitable in the end and would lead to large amounts of enrollment fraud. I wouldn't mind not getting the $7k school tax bill every year that seems to increase 3% every year.
March 10, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Yeah, those folks need to be dealt with as well. I don't have kids because (i) I don't want the job and (ii) I wouldn't be able to handle the disappointment of seeing them corrupted by this current climate. These morons chose to have kids and need to be made responsible for them. Here's a few suggestions: 1. Have administrators back teachers who actually fail students, instead of backing the parents. Stop tying funding to metrics like grade advancement and test scores (removing the incentive to inflate grades). NEVER change a grade just because a parent complains -- make that a firm policy. 2. Stop overcorrecting on the crusade against bullying and mean words. Raise kids that will be able to deal with things going wrong in life. 3. Stop giving every kid a trophy. Start keeping score in games again. Reward only kids who excel -- make the kids who don't win want to try harder instead of telling them it isn't their fault. There will always be bad parents. But this crap isn't helping. I would add to this... 4. Stop worrying abut the dropouts and start worrying about the "dropins". These are kids who only go to school for free meals and to start trouble. If kids don't want to go to class and learn they need to be expelled. Any student that assaults a teacher needs to be expelled. The teacher next door to me was a 22 year old girl who couldn't have weighed much more than 100 pounds. Some 19 year old 9th graded picked her up by the neck and slammed her into a wall. The next day kid was back in her class. She was terrified. I told her to come next door and get me if she needed me. I felt so bad for her. Its not like I could probably do much against this thug either but at least I stood a fighting chance. She ended up quitting a week later. We didn't go more than a week without a teacher being assaulted.
March 10, 20214 yr Back to the original subject of the thread... This mom works 3 jobs. Somebody who is living easy off welfare, being incentivized for having children, isn't working 3 jobs to make ends meet. So it's something else. Also if this kid's GPA is in the middle of the pack, that means half the school is just like him: skipping classes, just taking up space until he eventually drops out. The student body doesn't care, mom isn't helping, the school is in the weeds because they have so many failing kids and nobody cares... No wonder this kid fell behind.
March 10, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, toolg said: Back to the original subject of the thread... This mom works 3 jobs. Somebody who is living easy off welfare, being incentivized for having children, isn't working 3 jobs to make ends meet. So it's something else. so much for the "let the poors die" plan.
March 10, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, toolg said: Back to the original subject of the thread... This mom works 3 jobs. Somebody who is living easy off welfare, being incentivized for having children, isn't working 3 jobs to make ends meet. So it's something else. It's actually exactly that: The mom's working three jobs to make ends meet and is never around to rear the child.
March 10, 20214 yr 36 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It's actually exactly that: The mom's working three jobs to make ends meet and is never around to rear the child. And the big problem is where is the Dad?
March 10, 20214 yr Honestly I’m super happy with how parenting and the school systems are working in America. Each year there’s a fresh batch of 18 year olds with daddy issues.
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