2 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Yep.  Both her parents are Indian

she looks .. ample, up top. 

 

2 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

D.C. doesn't need to be made into a state. Through retrocession, the land should be given back to Maryland, just as the Virginia portion was given back to Virginia in 1847. 

Maryland doesn't want DC.

5 hours ago, paco said:

When in doubt use racism, pathetic 

 

4 hours ago, toolg said:

Maryland doesn't want DC.

Then wouldn't that make the state racist?

15 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

A prime example of how our education system has failed is how this slogan is taught to children in elementary school who then grow up to think that the founders opposed taxation and that taxes themselves are "un-American." The phrase "...without representation" is key. They weren't opposed to taxation; Europeans were conditioned to paying them as a basic element of the social contract. What they opposed was being taxed without their consent, which was the case in colonies being taxed by a British parliament in which they had no votes. The "taxation is theft" people enjoy such representation. They just don't understand how it works.

I was brought up through public and then private schools I knew what it meant

1 hour ago, greend said:

I was brought up through public and then private schools I knew what it meant

So what?

Greend is like 100 years old

"...back in my day!”

20 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

So what?

Figure it out or are you a product of the "failed education system as well?"

8 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Greend is like 100 years old

"...back in my day!”

Didn't say that at all

14 minutes ago, greend said:

Figure it out or are you a product of the "failed education system as well?"

Does your personal experience negate all of those to the contrary that I have witnessed working in schools? Does this single anecdote somehow disprove the negative reality of public education for a great number of Americans today?

35 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Does your personal experience negate all of those to the contrary that I have witnessed working in schools? Does this single anecdote somehow disprove the negative reality of public education for a great number of Americans today?

Are you suggesting teachers are teaching against taxation or that kids just hear it that way?

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Are you suggesting teachers are teaching against taxation or that kids just hear it that way?

More of the latter, but it's the teacher's job to correct these misunderstandings. I think this phrase often just gets thrown at young kids without context or reinforcement provided. We're doing a very superficial job in a lot of cases.

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

More of the latter, but it's the teacher's job to correct these misunderstandings. I think this phrase often just gets thrown at young kids without context or reinforcement provided. We're doing a very superficial job in a lot of cases.

Ok thanks

49 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Does your personal experience negate all of those to the contrary that I have witnessed working in schools? Does this single anecdote somehow disprove the negative reality of public education for a great number of Americans?

Well, I don't know. But maybe it proves that kids are stupid and too lazy to figure crap out for themselves. Totally ridiculous that the phrase "no taxation without representation" needs to be explained. Unless you are telling me that teachers are teaching that it means "no taxes".

I’d go one step further and say kids don’t even understand the role of government.

Too much J.S. Mill

8 minutes ago, greend said:

Well, I don't know. But maybe it proves that kids are stupid and too lazy to figure crap out for themselves. Totally ridiculous that the phrase "no taxation without representation" needs to be explained. Unless you are telling me that teachers are teaching that it means "no taxes".

Most kids are taught this in like 3rd grade, so it usually does require some explanation and the basic concept definitely needs to be reiterated in civics later on. But you're right, a lot of kids are stupid, and their parents are even dumber. Half of the job is just mitigating stupidity, unfortunately.

7 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Then wouldn't that make the state racist?

No. That's a terrible argument that doesn't help the cause, it only fans the flames.

5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Most kids are taught this in like 3rd grade, so it usually does require some explanation and the basic concept definitely needs to be reiterated in civics later on. But you're right, a lot of kids are stupid, and their parents are even dumber. Half of the job is just mitigating stupidity, unfortunately.

Well, fair enough then

27 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I’d go one step further and say kids don’t even understand the role of government.

Too much J.S. Mill

Mill doesn’t prevent an understanding of gov you sap

9 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Mill doesn’t prevent an understanding of gov you sap

I only added that last part because of your signature...

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

I only added that last part because of your signature...

I know

2 hours ago, toolg said:

No. That's a terrible argument that doesn't help the cause, it only fans the flames.

I was actually being sarcastic, since Robert Reich said that it was racist to not want DC to be a state. 

2 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I was actually being sarcastic, since Robert Reich said that it was racist to not want DC to be a state. 

I figured so. My response applies to his Tweet too.

20 hours ago, Bill said:

Honestly I’d rather not enfranchise @TEW

 

20 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Doesn’t he live in Potomac, MD?

Tbh, I think TEW would be fine with DC Statehood if women weren’t allowed to vote...

I do. It seems that along with American history, American geography has gone to ish as well.

I don’t vote for either major party in national elections anyway FWIW. Didn’t vote in the last two elections, Johnson before that. Both parties are beyond saving and have been for quite some time.

What I want for voting rights is simple: be a net tax contributor. That’s it. I really don’t care about anything else. Pay more in than you receive. You know, basic and sane incentive structures.

Of course that would disqualify the majority of the population because the US has become one gigantic welfare state where even the middle class doesn’t pay "their fair share” despite the moronic ramblings of the left.

14 hours ago, toolg said:

Maryland doesn't want DC.

Depends what part of Maryland you’re talking about. MontCo and PG would probably love to absorb it.