March 24, 20214 yr Author On 3/2/2021 at 1:03 PM, mayanh8 said: "This time it's for real. I'm sure of it." On 3/2/2021 at 1:59 PM, Paul852 said: FYP Um, guys?
March 24, 20214 yr Author Guys, there's an official Reparations Thread already in CVON. It's going really well in there. A bunch of libs said I was crazy for warning them that they are coming. Only took 3 weeks to prove them wrong.
March 24, 20214 yr Oh and the irony of using the weed tax is amazing. Sorry we imprisoned so many of you over a drug that should have never been illegal...here's $25k to repair your lives and families that were ripped apart because you sold a plant.
March 24, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Guys, there's an official Reparations Thread already in CVON. It's going really well in there. A bunch of libs said I was crazy for warning them that they are coming. Only took 3 weeks to prove them wrong. We meant at the federal level fwiw.
March 24, 20214 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: We meant at the federal level fwiw. Oh, yeah, could never happen there. lol
March 24, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Oh, yeah, could never happen there. lol A super liberal college town passing a reparations bill doesn’t mean we’re on the cusp at the federal level...
March 24, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, paco said: Evanston, Illinois becomes 1st city in US to pay reparations to Black residents
March 24, 20214 yr Author 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: A super liberal college town passing a reparations bill doesn’t mean we’re on the cusp at the federal level... I don't believe I said we were on the cusp. I said we're going to start hearing a lot more about it and they are an inevitability. I guess you could say, I don't miss. I mean a lot of people have said that.
March 24, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: I don't believe I said we were on the cusp. I said we're going to start hearing a lot more about it and they are an inevitability. I guess you could say, I don't miss. I mean a lot of people have said that. Looking at the details, Evanston set parameters as residency between 1919 - 1969. Before WWI and the Great Migration the Chicago area had very few black residents, so 1919 makes sense as a starting point. You’re having a very different conversation with reparations in former slave states.
March 24, 20214 yr Author Just now, Dave Moss said: Looking at the details, Evanston set parameters as residency between 1919 - 1969. Before WWI and the Great Migration the Chicago area had very few black residents, so 1919 makes sense as a starting point. You’re having a very different conversation with reparations in former slave states. Don't care. Sit back and watch.
March 24, 20214 yr On 3/2/2021 at 1:34 PM, DaEagles4Life said: Let's get rid of standardize tests and the funding based off it as well. Actually teach kids skills and knowledge, not how to get a good test score. This is basically happening, as a lot of schools are no longer requiring them, but whereas I used to be pretty much supportive of it, I'm kind of swinging back the other way. Like, they need to be majorly overhauled, but I do think there's a place for standardized testing, especially in the college admissions process, because they can at least be one component for indicating competence in reading comp., writing, and math. Now, sure, you can say that the timed conditions under which those tests take place don't reflect real-world professional scenarios (sometimes), but they might not be as distant from them as we think. One thing's for sure, when you get to college, you DO have to still take timed tests in math, science, and the language arts, so it is not something totally divorced from the reality of post-secondary education. A lot of professors still make you write essays in little blue books, and you don't get any more time than that 90 minute class period, or whatever it might be. What's really bothering me, though, is that the arguments for doing away from them are getting more divorced from academics and the accuracy of assessment to becoming emotional arguments and misguided griping about "equity." There was a report on the news last night on standardized tests, and the major complaint was that they're "stressful" and that students are looking for a "stress-free" alternative to the admissions process. Like, JFC, applying to college IS stressful, and it should be. LIFE is stressful. Deadlines are stressful. Responsibilities required to keep your job are stressful. Being judged based on your merits is stressful. And, in terms of equity, I do think we need to work on making these tests more fair, but I feel like we're coming around the bend to saying that all testing and grading methods are inherently unfair as "too white" and based on "Western methodologies.' Tests are racist! In terms of reparations, I do not support direct payments, but I do support the idea of a kind of indirect reparations program that focuses on equal opportunities in education, housing, and job training in under-served communities. Don't just throw money at the problem; INVEST money in the people by giving them more tools and avenues for success.
March 24, 20214 yr Let me get this straight... Some small town in IL made black residents prove that that they were discriminated against in order to get property grants. And it was all funded by donations and weed tax. This is tan suit level panic material, folks. You better start boarding up the windows. Change is coming. And it's not the good kind.
March 24, 20214 yr 54 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Let me get this straight... Some small town in IL made black residents prove that that they were discriminated against in order to get property grants. And it was all funded by donations and weed tax. This is tan suit level panic material, folks. You better start boarding up the windows. Change is coming. And it's not the good kind. "small town" (50% more populous than Harrisburg despite being 1/3 smaller in land mass (roughly)) "made of black residents" (slightly larger % (18.1%) than the national average (13.4%))
March 24, 20214 yr By sheer volume of people it's smaller than the massively sprawling metropolis of... Conroe, TX. Not to mention a good chunk of Evanston's "population" is a bunch of out-of-towners attending Northwestern.
March 24, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: By sheer volume of people it's smaller than the massively sprawling metropolis of... Conroe, TX. The word of the day for you is dense. As in your take. Conroe TX has 20,000 LESS people than Evanston despite having TEN TIMES the land mass. Your take is bad and you should feel bad.
March 24, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, paco said: "made of black residents" (slightly larger % (18.1%) than the national average (13.4%)) I don't know anything about Evanston, IL but you're misinterpreting his post when you say "made of black residents". He said "made black residents prove...". He didn't say it was full of black residents, he was saying they had to prove they were discriminated against.
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