Erie Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 What are your thoughts on the 12th pick? I'm guessing Waddle will still be on the board, but we certainly are in the "best player available" territory of the round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brkmsn Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I think there will be at least 3 names that have already been "mocked" to us at #6, still available at #12. I also think picking at #12 means everything is on the table. You can't say, "12 is too high for [one of the top CBs in this draft] [a high graded LB] [etc...]." I like the move and honestly won't be surprised if we move back one more time. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep_man Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Roseman trades the 12th pick, move down to Pick 20, grabs an extra 2nd and 3rd.. With all this Draft capital, Howie misses on majority of them 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajxxx Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I think horn + Bateman in 2nd or slight trade up OR waddle/smith + Samuel jr would be a pipe dream (considering Howie) but would be amazing. Well then we said that accountant is going to outsmart us with some punter from grade 3 school and a high motor high speed guy in the first 2 rounds ahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brkmsn Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jeep_man said: With all this Draft capital, Howie misses on majority of them We can say with all certainty that none of our upcoming draft picks will be HOFers in week 1 of the 2021season. What I like about the trade back is that we acquired the pick next season when we won't be selecting from such an overrated, phony draft class. A lot of these hyped-up prospects are going to struggle as rookies as they transition from an abbreviated, untraditional college football season (or none at all) to the NFL. They are still talented and many will still develop, but need more time (and work) than usual. Teams are going into this draft with a lot less preparation than they would normally have and now have to rely more than ever on projections. Less film to evaluate, no combine and far less exposure to the players are huge factors that will play a big part in the 2021 draft. Most of the QBs expected to go in the top 10 this year really shouldn't. Moving out of the top 10 this year makes too much sense. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20dawk4life Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Surtain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliEagle Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeep_man said: Roseman trades the 12th pick, move down to Pick 20, grabs an extra 2nd and 3rd.. With all this Draft capital, Howie misses on majority of them That is my fear. I think Howie still could move down again, even with blue chip prospects still on the board. If he stays at 12, then go either Slater (can play all OL positions...versatility), Horn or Waddle. One of those 3 should be there, IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1000 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Smith, Waddle, Surtain, or Horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchew88 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: Surtain Are you certain? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_west3 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Draft Horn then package our 2 and a 3 to get back into the first and take Moehrig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenakers2 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, b_west3 said: Draft Horn then package our 2 and a 3 to get back into the first and take Moehrig. I don't see the Eagles sitting out of any round of the draft. With a mostly new staff, the only thing harder than believing Rosey will get it right is understanding just what Siri & Gannon want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utebird Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I like the move down, ihope they don't go corner in the first round, plenty of corners can be had in the 2nd and beyond. Corner is a devalued position in the league due to the rules favoring offense and specifically passing Eagles won the super bowl with the lowest amount of money allocated to Corner The chiefs won with average in expensive corners. Bucs 3 starting corners were two 2nd round picks and a 3rd rounder. Don't need elite corners to win. Especially not expensive ones. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 The Eagles trade down to the mid 20's and add a 2022 first round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad67 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 For me trading down could mean focus on Defense...I keep saying it but I would go Defense picks at least 3 out of first four rounds and 1 for the Oline and then next year with multiple 1st round picks we can help our offense...this season I would focus on closing as many defensive holes as possible and see what Hurts can and can't do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_west3 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Utebird said: I like the move down, ihope they don't go corner in the first round, plenty of corners can be had in the 2nd and beyond. Corner is a devalued position in the league due to the rules favoring offense and specifically passing Eagles won the super bowl with the lowest amount of money allocated to Corner The chiefs won with average in expensive corners. Bucs 3 starting corners were two 2nd round picks and a 3rd rounder. Don't need elite corners to win. Especially not expensive ones. Good point...but imagine this. It's the night before Super Bowl 52...someone tells you that Brady throws for 505 yards and no picks...do you even watch the game? If so, have you already set yourself up for heartbreak? We absolutely do need some guys who can actually cover on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliEagle Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Vlad67 said: For me trading down could mean focus on Defense...I keep saying it but I would go Defense picks at least 3 out of first four rounds and 1 for the Oline and then next year with multiple 1st round picks we can help our offense...this season I would focus on closing as many defensive holes as possible and see what Hurts can and can't do I'm for adding a couple of defensive pieces, but you have to give Hurts a little more talent to work with. If you are trying to develop a young QB, you have to give him enough to succeed or what's the point? I'm fine with going defense in Round 1 and possibly 2. But, the Eagles should use at least 4 picks on offense, OL depth, possible RB depth, WR depth, and possibly a 3rd QB late in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglePhan1986 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1. Waddle 2. Parsons 3. D. Smith Those are my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain F Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, matchew88 said: Are you certain? He Surtainly is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Utebird said: I like the move down, ihope they don't go corner in the first round, plenty of corners can be had in the 2nd and beyond. Corner is a devalued position in the league due to the rules favoring offense and specifically passing Eagles won the super bowl with the lowest amount of money allocated to Corner The chiefs won with average in expensive corners. Bucs 3 starting corners were two 2nd round picks and a 3rd rounder. Don't need elite corners to win. Especially not expensive ones. Every theory about what other teams do and what value can be had in later rounds goes out the window with Howie. He's not a good drafter. Corner isn't a devalued position, it's still an important position ESPECIALLY given the stricter rules. You're not going to have "shut down corners" like in the past, but you need talent and good coaching. The Eagles have had a weak secondary consisting of 1-2 decent veteran free agents and crap/mediocre players they draft. Corners and safeties Howie has drafted, any of these guys excite you for him picking good corners outside the 1st round? Earl Wolf Jordan Poyer Jaylen Watkins Ed Reynolds Eric Rowe Jacorey Shepherd Randall Evans Blake Countess Jalen Mills Sidney Jones Rasul Douglas Nate Gerry Avonte Maddox K'vonn Wallace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right4thePicking Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I have to turn away because there are three obviously really good lbers that are game changers. Collins, parsons, and jeremiah from nd either of which I would be fine with. I don't comprehend the over thinking. They will probably take waddle because of rhonda rousey. But it's not the right pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 If the report is true that Lurie said to make Hurts the starting QB and build around him, and knowing Lurie wants an exciting offense I could see them drafting a WR or O lineman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Vlad67 said: For me trading down could mean focus on Defense...I keep saying it but I would go Defense picks at least 3 out of first four rounds and 1 for the Oline and then next year with multiple 1st round picks we can help our offense...this season I would focus on closing as many defensive holes as possible and see what Hurts can and can't do I wouldn't mind at all if the Eagles basically spent this year rebuilding their defense and OL. Set the foundation now with a solid defense and OL, then go get the QB and weapons in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utebird Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, b_west3 said: Good point...but imagine this. It's the night before Super Bowl 52...someone tells you that Brady throws for 505 yards and no picks...do you even watch the game? If so, have you already set yourself up for heartbreak? We absolutely do need some guys who can actually cover on the back end. Absolutely agree eagles need secondary help and I think CB has better value in 2nd round and beyond rather than 1st. Howie had right idea drafting sidney and rasul in the 2 and 3rd he just picked the wrong guys, right spot right position wrong guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utebird Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, NOTW said: Every theory about what other teams do and what value can be had in later rounds goes out the window with Howie. He's not a good drafter. Corner isn't a devalued position, it's still an important position ESPECIALLY given the stricter rules. You're not going to have "shut down corners" like in the past, but you need talent and good coaching. The Eagles have had a weak secondary consisting of 1-2 decent veteran free agents and crap/mediocre players they draft. Corners and safeties Howie has drafted, any of these guys excite you for him picking good corners outside the 1st round? Earl Wolf Jordan Poyer Jaylen Watkins Ed Reynolds Eric Rowe Jacorey Shepherd Randall Evans Blake Countess Jalen Mills Sidney Jones Rasul Douglas Nate Gerry Avonte Maddox K'vonn Wallace Jordan poyer has turned out ok, I think eagles have up on him too early. Nate Gerry was a college safety from day 1 eagles planned on moving him to LB so axe him from the list The rest don't excite me though jacorey showed some promise before injury. Kvonn to early but the rest don't excite me though. I agree howie can't draft DBs all the more reason to not have him waste a first rounder on one no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Utebird said: Jordan poyer has turned out ok, I think eagles have up on him too early. Nate Gerry was a college safety from day 1 eagles planned on moving him to LB so axe him from the list The rest don't excite me though jacorey showed some promise before injury. Kvonn to early but the rest don't excite me though. I agree howie can't draft DBs all the more reason to not have him waste a first rounder on one no? The odds are better in the 1st. But he sucks and needs to be fired anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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