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Maybe this guy will turn into the best coach in Eagles history¬†ūü§£¬†and to be fair we haven't even seen a single practice yet with this guy. But based on what I have heard from him, I will hold my word and admit I'm wrong if this guy exceeds my expectations.... which are I give him 3 years tops and that's being nice. I expect a very tough season this year. ¬†A league high 11 picks this year to work with in the draft along with a potential 3 in the first round next year. We have no¬†clue what his coaching philosophy will be and his offensive scheme. Sanders is my favorite Eagle and more often than not Doug has been killed for not running the ball enough. Sanders should have a¬†huge year this season. I honestly don't think this guy knows what he got himself into here in Philly. He won't last long....not because of the team but because of the city of Philadelphia. I'll look back at this post down the road and admit I was wrong if this guy turns out to be better than what I think. I'm trying to stay optimistic and be fair and that's because we still have the draft and the team hasn't even taken the field yet under Sirianni.

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19 minutes ago, GoBirds52 said:

Maybe this guy will turn into the best coach in Eagles history¬†ūü§£¬†and to be fair we haven't even seen a single practice yet with this guy. But based on what I have heard from him, I will hold my word and admit I'm wrong if this guy exceeds my expectations.... which are I give him 3 years tops and that's being nice. I expect a very tough season this year. ¬†A league high 11 picks this year to work with in the draft along with a potential 3 in the first round next year. We have no¬†clue what his coaching philosophy will be and his offensive scheme. Sanders is my favorite Eagle and more often than not Doug has been killed for not running the ball enough. Sanders should have a¬†huge year this season. I honestly don't think this guy knows what he got himself into here in Philly. He won't last long....not because of the team but because of the city of Philadelphia. I'll look back at this post down the road and admit I was wrong if this guy turns out to be better than what I think. I'm trying to stay optimistic and be fair and that's because we still have the draft and the team hasn't even taken the field yet under Sirianni.

Seriously? Doug Pederson gave an awful first impression and he won us a Super Bowl within 2 years.

At least let this guy lose some games first before starting these threads.

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24 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Seriously? Doug Pederson gave an awful first impression and he won us a Super Bowl within 2 years.

At least let this guy lose some games first before starting these threads.

Extremely hard comparison ... Doug was given a pretty good team overall (and Howie made some really good moves in both FA and the trade market that year to complement the team).  This team as currently assembled is no where near the level that 2016 team was when Doug took over.  But that should not be a direct reflection on Sirianni.  

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58 minutes ago, GoBirds52 said:

Maybe this guy will turn into the best coach in Eagles history¬†ūü§£¬†and to be fair we haven't even seen a single practice yet with this guy. But based on what I have heard from him, I will hold my word and admit I'm wrong if this guy exceeds my expectations.... which are I give him 3 years tops and that's being nice. I expect a very tough season this year. ¬†A league high 11 picks this year to work with in the draft along with a potential 3 in the first round next year. We have no¬†clue what his coaching philosophy will be and his offensive scheme. Sanders is my favorite Eagle and more often than not Doug has been killed for not running the ball enough. Sanders should have a¬†huge year this season. I honestly don't think this guy knows what he got himself into here in Philly. He won't last long....not because of the team but because of the city of Philadelphia. I'll look back at this post down the road and admit I was wrong if this guy turns out to be better than what I think. I'm trying to stay optimistic and be fair and that's because we still have the draft and the team hasn't even taken the field yet under Sirianni.

In fairness, you’re trepidation seems to be more about the current environment than with Sirianni himself.  Would you have any different feeling if the head coaching hire was Daboll or Arthur Smith, for instance?

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20 minutes ago, wrestlevessel said:

This guy will suck. I agree. No one else wanted him.

No one else wanted Doug,¬†either. Also, how often does the "hottest coaching candidate‚ÄĚ end up being the best coach, anyway? Hiring a coach is extremely difficult and pretty much a crapshoot.

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Sirianni was able to put together a pretty solid staff, and rather quickly, with proven track records of developing players.  That's something we haven't had in a while.  Now, I haven't watched either of his pressers, but have heard how bad he came off.  Doug had a very iffy first presser when he was introduced as HC.  Some people just aren't good at public speaking.  There's a statistic out there that states one of most people's biggest fears is public speaking.  I'm not concerned with how someone handles their PCs, but I am concerned with how they managed their team, which includes both their players and their coaches.  So far it seems he has a good relationship with his coaches as some of these guys made parallel moves to come him instead of getting a promotion.  Before I make a judgement I want to see how he handles his players, if they'll play for him and not quit, and if they'll improve from either last season or during the season.  Also, I want to see how he handles in game decisions.

 

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8 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Seriously? Doug Pederson gave an awful first impression and he won us a Super Bowl within 2 years.

At least let this guy lose some games first before starting these threads.

Different situation entirely, Doug inherited Lane, Kelce, Ertz, Cox, Graham, Jenkins and McLeod at their athletic peaks, Peters before he hit the serious down slope, the last year of Connor Barwin and the best linebacking corps we've had since the early 2000's in Kendricks, Hicks and Bradham.

Sirianni doesn't have anything like that roster or rather he has most of that roster but it's on the downslope and that's the hole he has to dig us out of.

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8 hours ago, time2rock said:

Extremely hard comparison ... Doug was given a pretty good team overall (and Howie made some really good moves in both FA and the trade market that year to complement the team).  This team as currently assembled is no where near the level that 2016 team was when Doug took over.  But that should not be a direct reflection on Sirianni.  

 

44 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Different situation entirely, Doug inherited Lane, Kelce, Ertz, Cox, Graham, Jenkins and McLeod at their athletic peaks, Peters before he hit the serious down slope, the last year of Connor Barwin and the best linebacking corps we've had since the early 2000's in Kendricks, Hicks and Bradham.

Sirianni doesn't have anything like that roster or rather he has most of that roster but it's on the downslope and that's the hole he has to dig us out of.

Yes every situation is different and on the face of it he has a harder job. 
 

But my point was that this guy was saying he’s not the right man for the job based on how he appears in press conferences etc. He needs at least a couple of years to show what he can do, not a press conference.

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10 hours ago, time2rock said:

Extremely hard comparison ... Doug was given a pretty good team overall (and Howie made some really good moves in both FA and the trade market that year to complement the team).  This team as currently assembled is no where near the level that 2016 team was when Doug took over.  But that should not be a direct reflection on Sirianni.  

Bit of revisionist history though. I remember nobody before that season thinking we would go far. Most were talking about 8-8 or 9-7 tops. Then the team won and everybody revised their view on players that were looked at as average to bad before. And quite a few players did look average to bad right after too..

Who knows how good we really are this year and next. Nobody yet. This could go any direction, really.

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3 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Different situation entirely, Doug inherited Lane, Kelce, Ertz, Cox, Graham, Jenkins and McLeod at their athletic peaks, Peters before he hit the serious down slope, the last year of Connor Barwin and the best linebacking corps we've had since the early 2000's in Kendricks, Hicks and Bradham.

Sirianni doesn't have anything like that roster or rather he has most of that roster but it's on the downslope and that's the hole he has to dig us out of.

I look at it as the Eagles set Sirianni up to fail more then Sirianni is going to fail because he is gives crappy press conferences lol

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Well, one thing you can consider is that every HC hired by Lurie has made the playoffs by year 2, at least. The main challenge that will differentiate Sirianni is that he has to figure out if Hurts will be "the guy" or not.  So, he may get a 1 year mulligan to determine that.  If Hurts proves to not be the guy and they have to get their QB in the 2022 draft...Sirianni will likely get at least 2 years with that QB.

In any case, if you had to bet whether or not Sirianni will lead the Eagles to the playoffs at least once before he leaves town, the safe bet would be "yes", he would....just based on Lurie's track record of hiring coaches (which is the only thing we can go on at this point).

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