1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

I for one can’t say he’s going to make the right choice. He’s blown nearly every receiver pick he’s made so I can’t trust that Howie will get it right. I’m just hoping for the best. 

I don't think in general he'll make the right choice never mind at receiver. 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Are the Eagles failing Carson or are they souring on Carson? If they want to become a "QB factory " then you have to realize eventually even Carson will get the chop. 

Then they are further displaying their own incompetence giving Wentz a $100 Million contract.

31 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Every few years they plan to draft a guy. What do think that means? Keep Carson’s monster contract while they keep trading away the cheaper guys they groom? And talk about cart before the horse. You really believe drafting a guy in the 2nd in hopes to flip him for a first isn’t the exact definition of that? 

I really hope their plan isn't to treat QBs like how many believe RBs should be treated.

21 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

He got one guy in first... He could get more now. That kid from the Skins last year was a 4th and the Eagles have several to work with. We will see what happens. 

Actually Terry McLaurin was a 3rd rounder and we reached for a LB that certainly wasn't the best LB on the board.

Just now, eaglesfan0075 said:

Actually Terry McLaurin was a 3rd rounder and we reached for a LB that certainly wasn't the best LB on the board.

Well thanks for ruining my hope. 😂😂😂

It was stupid to take a QB in the 2nd round, but a lot of you care much more about your dreamboat than the team. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Well thanks for ruining my hope. 😂😂😂

Sorry man, but I do see some good DB prospects remaining I would like to see the Eagles take in Round 4

8 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I really hope their plan isn't to treat QBs like how many believe RBs should be treated.

"Quarterback factory” is what they want to be. You know if you look at the last 30 years or so many of the quarterbacks who have won or been in the super bowl weren’t top five picks. Of course most of that was due to Brady, but there’s something to be said on how not having to pay a franchise quarterback helps a team build more depth. I don’t know if that’s their plan but it should be noted they won a Super Bowl when they didn’t have to pay Carson. 

14 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Then they are further displaying their own incompetence giving Wentz a $100 Million contract.

They guaranteed Jeffery’s contract and tried to trade him. They basically had a circus side show from the moment they guaranteed their coaches would be back and fired them the next day. In the big picture is any of this above them or just par for the course?

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

"Quarterback factory” is what they want to be. You know if you look at the last 30 years or so many of the quarterbacks who have won or been in the super bowl weren’t top five picks. Of course most of that was due to Brady, but there’s something to be said on how not having to pay a franchise quarterback helps a team build more depth. I don’t know if that’s their plan but it should be noted they won a Super Bowl when they didn’t have to pay Carson. 

Absolutely. Wentz being in year 2 allowed them to have the one magical season where everyone but Chance Warmack worked out beautifully. It was very fortunate, but even if they did develop a plan of flipping QBs before they need paid, it's unlikely they ever get that successful with a single FA period.

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

"Quarterback factory” is what they want to be. You know if you look at the last 30 years or so many of the quarterbacks who have won or been in the super bowl weren’t top five picks. Of course most of that was due to Brady, but there’s something to be said on how not having to pay a franchise quarterback helps a team build more depth. I don’t know if that’s their plan but it should be noted they won a Super Bowl when they didn’t have to pay Carson. 

Not trying to say the Eagles made the right call here, but it is notable that the Ravens tried doing the same last year with Trace McSorley on Day 3 in attempting to stack their QB room with mobile QBs. I read an article that the Ravens wanted to build a juggernaut that didn't depend on paying their starting QB the big $$ and that they would like to be able to draft mobile QBs every so often.

Granted they used less draft capital and that’s my biggest gripe, not the player selected himself.

4 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Absolutely. Wentz being in year 2 allowed them to have the one magical season where everyone but Chance Warmack worked out beautifully. It was very fortunate, but even if they did develop a plan of flipping QBs before they need paid, it's unlikely they ever get that successful with a single FA period.

Think of it this way though. Carson started from day one so when his contract came up they had no choice but to pay him. Hurts on the other hand could get an extension before he ever takes a real NFL snap and they could pay him less than the enormous contract they gave Carson. It’s down the road for sure, but that’s how they used to think during the "gold standard” era. Extend young guys and under pay them as soon as they could.

7 minutes ago, eaglesfan0075 said:

Not trying to say the Eagles made the right call here, but it is notable that the Ravens tried doing the same last year with Trace McSorley on Day 3 in attempting to stack their QB room with mobile QBs. I read an article that the Ravens wanted to build a juggernaut that didn't depend on paying their starting QB the big $$ and that they would like to be able to draft mobile QBs every so often.

Granted they used less draft capital and that’s my biggest gripe, not the player selected himself.

Speaking of the Ravens I’m sure it hasn’t been lost on the Eagles that it was their pick that got them the league MVP. Is it just a coincidence they selected what some consider his clone in this draft? Makes you think a little.

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Think of it this way though. Carson started from day one so when his contract came up they had no choice but to pay him. Hurts on the other hand could get an extension before he ever takes a real NFL snap and they could pay him less than the enormous contract they gave Carson. It’s down the road for sure, but that’s how they used to think during the "gold standard” era. Extend young guys and under pay them as soon as they could.

I would think Hurts would be reluctant to do that though. By all accounts, I'm mostly hearing he's a good player. From his perspective, I imagine he wants to play, compete to play, or be somewhere where the incumbent is a year or two from retiring. That said, I can't see him signing an extension unless he's certain to be the guy.

1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I would think Hurts would be reluctant to do that though. By all accounts, I'm mostly hearing he's a good player. From his perspective, I imagine he wants to play, compete to play, or be somewhere where the incumbent is a year or two from retiring. That said, I can't see him signing an extension unless he's certain to be the guy.

That’s true. If Carson plays out his deal it’s over in 2025. He would likely be moved before that point. They could extend Hurts in his third year with promises to be the guy. Long way down the road and these the looming potential out of Carson’s contract in 2021. 2020 is kind of a make or break year for Carson. 

1 hour ago, kmass88 said:

The Eagles do not owe Carson Wentz or any player on the current roster anything. I dig Wentz as a qb and as person. His MVP type season helping us get our 1st Superbowl was great. His run he went on last year was great. 

 

But none of that signals that he should get a life long or, long term commitment from the Eagles. I wish him the best and hope he can stay healthy. But if he happens to get injured again and his back-up comes in, lights it up, and manages to stay healthy and becomes the "guy"? No one will be lamenting "what about Wentz???" And many will be flaming at the mouth trying to get value picks or players for him. It is what it is. 

You completely missed the whole point of the thread. The Dak is being given every opportunity to succeed by putting strong offensive pieces around him multiple times over. What does Wentz have? 1 stud TE, 1 solid TE, 1 promising RB coming off an injured rookie year, and stable of WRs who are often injured, fresh off PS, or can't catch. It's nothing short of a miracle that Wentz was able to horse this team into the playoffs last year with what he had. I like the Reagor pick but the next round? Yeah they drafted Wentz's replacement already. They didn't do enough to address the offense during FA and so far during the draft while other contenders in the NFC are loaded giving their QBs plenty of chances to succeed. 

 

 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

I hate the pick to, but I’m sensing what this really means. Carson’s days are numbered unless he’s out there putting up Mahomes type numbers, winning MVPs and Super Bowls. The Eagles sent a message last night directed straight at number 11. 

He won us the division last year almost single handedly.

6 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

He won us the division last year almost single handedly.

Winning this division was like winning a potato sack race against a bunch of one legged contestants. You get a one handed golf clap for that. Tell me what was his reward for that great accomplishment? I’ll tell you. An early exit and another loss to a team with a winning record notched against him. His team being out of reach to get Lamb and watch him go to the Cowboys, and the Eagles drafting his eventual replacement. I’m so glad he won this division! 

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Winning this division was like winning a potato sack race against a bunch of one legged contestants. You get a one handed golf clap for that. Tell me what was his reward for that great accomplishment? I’ll tell you. An early exit and another loss to a team with a winning record notched against him. His team being out of reach to get Lamb and watch him go to the Cowboys, and the Eagles drafting his eventual replacement. I’m so glad he won this division! 

My point is he won us a division with almost no help. Think what he can do with the proper weapons.

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

My point is he won us a division with almost no help. Think what he can do with the proper weapons.

And my point is that’s irrelevant especially since his team got dismantled by the Dolphins and winning this division did nothing but move them out of the range for Lamb and the way he got hurt in that game had people in the organization questioning his durability. You think I’m wrong? Well consider this: The Eagles chose to keep that 2nd round pick and draft a backup QB instead of trying to jump the Cowboys to get Lamb. You can Wentz gush all you like, but their moves do not align with your thinking. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

And my point is that’s irrelevant especially since his team got dismantled by the Dolphins and winning this division did nothing but move them out of the range for Lamb and the way he got hurt in that game had people in the organization questioning his durability. You think I’m wrong? Well consider this: The Eagles chose to keep that 2nd round pick and draft a backup QB instead of trying to jump the Cowboys to get Lamb. You can Wentz gush all you like, but their moves do not align with your thinking. 

So why did they just give him 100 million dollars?

12 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

So why did they just give him 100 million dollars?

Because they had no choice. Tell me this why did they guarantee Jeffery’s contract when they didn’t have to? Why did they guarantee their coaches would be back and fire them the next day? Why do rumors keep circulating they have been putting Dillard’s name out in trade discussions? Tell me why if they’re so committed to Carson do they have a 2021 buyout option? 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't think in general he'll make the right choice never mind at receiver. 

I can’t argue with you there....

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

I can’t argue with you there....

How could anyone have faith in him?