8 minutes ago, Heavywchamp said:

It is what it is. I still say they treated the symptom and not the problem. With Hurts, we're about to relive a modified version of the NcNabb era all over again. Sanders is our new Westbrook, Goddert our new Chad Lewis, we got Marty back, our WRs will be bums. The only wrinkle is Reagor might be Wr we needed before DJax. 

So what really is the current regime? Winning 9 games a year, limping into the playoffs for an early exit or going 7-9? How is this better? Is it because that onetime the backup came in and won the Super Bowl? Is that consistency or is that an anomaly? 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

So what really is the current regime? Winning 9 games a year, limping into the playoffs for an early exit or going 7-9? How is this better? Is it because that onetime the backup came in and won the Super Bowl? Is that consistency or is that an anomaly? 

I hear ya. Like I said, maybe they're trying to go back in time and mock that era but add a wrinkle with getting a better WR. Bum WRs were our biggest issues when McNabb was in his prime. Having Marty back is no coincidence 

Hey they just got him Goodwin from the niners! Superbowlzzzzzzzzz!

9 minutes ago, Heavywchamp said:

I hear ya. Like I said, maybe they're trying to go back in time and mock that era but add a wrinkle with getting a better WR. Bum WRs were our biggest issues when McNabb was in his prime. Having Marty back is no coincidence 

They tried to get talent around McNabb, but they just kept picking the wrong guys. Considering most of the players they’re drafting right now will not get OTAs and might not even get much of a camp or preseason I don’t think it’s realistic to expect much out of them year one. Basically they’re gonna have to count on DJack and Jeffery one more time with the rookies being worked in. Reagor could make an early impact on special teams though. 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

They tried to get talent around McNabb, but they just kept picking the wrong guys. Considering most of the players they’re drafting right now will not get OTAs and might not even get much of a camp or preseason I don’t think it’s realistic to expect much out of them year one. Basically they’re gonna have to count on DJack and Jeffery one more time with the rookies being worked in. Reagor could make an early impact on special teams though. 

Count on Jeffrey? When will he be able to play? How long before DJack misses games due to injury? They might be playing backup and practice squad receivers again this year.

15 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Spot on they are failing Wentz and have failed Wentz since drafting him. 

Not giving him plenty of weapons. Not giving him any speed when he's a QB who wants to push the ball down the field. 

Did you not pay attention the past few days? We have a ridiculous volume of speedsters now.

1 hour ago, Muz86 said:

Did you not pay attention the past few days? We have a ridiculous volume of speedsters now.

Huh? I posted this yesterday before day 3!

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Huh? I posted this yesterday before day 3!

Sorry man, thought the post was more recent! Should have checked.

14 hours ago, kmass88 said:

Who and what are the 2020 Philly Eagles? I dont have an answer.

 

Howie already told you man, we are a Quarterback Factory!

Hope is not a strategy!

 

56 minutes ago, Perforator said:

Howie already told you man, we are a Quarterback Factory!

Hope is not a strategy!

 

A QB factory based on what? The failure to develop Sudfeld to be a starter? In fact they don't even really trust him as a back up. 

The joke of a pick to get Thorson? 

Foles is the only case and in that case all we have done is produced a QB who is a below average starter at any other team in the league. 

This QB factory stuff is not only wrong but it's also not the point of the NFL. Develop QBs for other teams to benefit? Develop QBs for picks? Its hardly provided a great return so far. 

58 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

A QB factory based on what? The failure to develop Sudfeld to be a starter? In fact they don't even really trust him as a back up. 

The joke of a pick to get Thorson? 

Foles is the only case and in that case all we have done is produced a QB who is a below average starter at any other team in the league. 

This QB factory stuff is not only wrong but it's also not the point of the NFL. Develop QBs for other teams to benefit? Develop QBs for picks? Its hardly provided a great return so far. 

I'm with you 100%

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

A QB factory based on what? The failure to develop Sudfeld to be a starter? In fact they don't even really trust him as a back up. 

The joke of a pick to get Thorson? 

Foles is the only case and in that case all we have done is produced a QB who is a below average starter at any other team in the league. 

This QB factory stuff is not only wrong but it's also not the point of the NFL. Develop QBs for other teams to benefit? Develop QBs for picks? Its hardly provided a great return so far. 

The only QB factory was when Big Red was here. I’ll give him that.  How the hell did we trade AJ Feeley and Kevin Kolb for  2nd round picks?  😂

Very ignorant statement by Howie about the "QB factory.”  Not only is it a dumb concept, but this group of "developers” have proven they’re not that good at developing QBs other than Carson.  

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

A QB factory based on what? The failure to develop Sudfeld to be a starter? In fact they don't even really trust him as a back up. 

The joke of a pick to get Thorson? 

Foles is the only case and in that case all we have done is produced a QB who is a below average starter at any other team in the league. 

This QB factory stuff is not only wrong but it's also not the point of the NFL. Develop QBs for other teams to benefit? Develop QBs for picks? Its hardly provided a great return so far. 

We got a 2nd rounder (that was used for Curry or Kendricks, I can’t recall) and DRC for Kevin Kolb. How do you feel about that return?

16 hours ago, Heavywchamp said:

I hear ya. Like I said, maybe they're trying to go back in time and mock that era but add a wrinkle with getting a better WR. Bum WRs were our biggest issues when McNabb was in his prime. Having Marty back is no coincidence 

Actually Marty came on board in 2004 when we got T.O. then Kurtis, stallworth, Maclin, Jackson. The receiver room got better when he showed up

Besides having a pretty awesome offensive line, including a smart center in Kelce, and two of the greatest bookends in Peters  and Lane in the NFL, Carson has had Darren Sproles, Zack Ertz, Brent Celek, Alshon Jeffrey, LeGarrette Blount, Tory Smith, Jay Ajayi, Dallas Goedert, Miles Sanders, Jordan Howard and DeShawn Jackson.

Wouldn't quite say they’ve failed him.

 

 

 

 

46 minutes ago, hey suess said:

We got a 2nd rounder (that was used for Curry or Kendricks, I can’t recall) and DRC for Kevin Kolb. How do you feel about that return?

That was before Howie...

17 minutes ago, hey suess said:

Besides having a pretty awesome offensive line, including a smart center in Kelce, and two of the greatest bookends in Peters  and Lane, Carson has had Darren Sproles, Zack Ertz, Brent Celek, Alshon Jeffrey, LeGarrette Blount, Tory Smith, Jay Ajayi, Dallas Goedert, Miles Sanders, Jordan Howard and DeShawn Jackson.

Wouldn't quite day they’ve failed him.

 

 

 

 

Yeah agreed 100%. They have made every effort to surround Wentz with talent.

Last year due to bad judgement and bad luck they were really weak at the WR position. But it wasn’t through lack of effort.

This year they have invested a lot at WR.

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That was before Howie...

And the 2 Super Bowl appearances and 9 NFC championships while Howie was here?

3 minutes ago, hey suess said:

And the 2 Super Bowl appearances and 9 NFC championships while Howie was here?

Where were the QBs we developed and traded for picks? That was my point about this QB factory. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Where were the QBs we developed and traded for picks? That was my point about this QB factory. 

AJ Feeley, Kevin Kolb......it’s not like they haven't done this before. No, not every draft, but it’s been done. 
Hell, I know we didn’t draft him, but we may even get some bonus value out of Sudfeld.

18 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Where were the QBs we developed and traded for picks? That was my point about this QB factory. 

 

17 minutes ago, hey suess said:

AJ Feeley, Kevin Kolb......it’s not like they haven't done this before. No, not every draft, but it’s been done. 
Hell, I know we didn’t draft him, but we may even get some bonus value out of Sudfeld.

Kolb was drafted to succeed McNabb - that’s why they used a high second on him. Feeley was a 5th round pick.

Now we got lucky with both in the trade market, but the point is that you should only use a first or second rounder on a Quarterback if you want them to be the starter at some point.

22 minutes ago, hey suess said:

AJ Feeley, Kevin Kolb......it’s not like they haven't done this before. No, not every draft, but it’s been done. 
Hell, I know we didn’t draft him, but we may even get some bonus value out of Sudfeld.

2. What a great factory. 

7 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

2. What a great factory. 

Lol.

We got value both times. So, they’ve been 100% so far.

we’ll all see what happens, but I won’t get disgruntled about it. Why? Not because I didn’t agree with the pick, but because we've all seen this before. Eagles surely haven't been know for their sexy draft picks for many years...but they’ve also not been the Cleveland Browns, either. So, until it doesn’t pan out, I can’t say that it’s a bad pick.

23 minutes ago, hey suess said:

Lol.

We got value both times. So, they’ve been 100% so far.

we’ll all see what happens, but I won’t get disgruntled about it. Why? Not because I didn’t agree with the pick, but because we've all seen this before. Eagles surely haven't been know for their sexy draft picks for many years...but they’ve also not been the Cleveland Browns, either. So, until it doesn’t pan out, I can’t say that it’s a bad pick.

It's the process the logic and the strategy I have major issues with. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That was before Howie...

That was actually after he became GM.