I mean even his name is just one letter short of pedo

His first few videos were funny but that act wore thin pretty damn quickly. Now he's taking pictures of his feces and sending them to thirteen year old girls. What a time to be alive. 

On 4/22/2021 at 9:36 PM, IFB DOG said:

So... @bobeph won't be posting any longer?

 

:saddyface:

The P in edp stands for p**sy, not peen. bobeph is in the clear.

Eat Dat Prison food

In thinking about this situation, since the people doing the 'sting' are YouTube people and not law enforcement and the fact that there was no 13 year old child actually involved, would he actually be in any legal trouble? Moral trouble, public trouble, yes. But did he actually break any laws that he would/could actually be convicted for in a court?

12 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

In thinking about this situation, since the people doing the 'sting' are YouTube people and not law enforcement and the fact that there was no 13 year old child actually involved, would he actually be in any legal trouble? Moral trouble, public trouble, yes. But did he actually break any laws that he would/could actually be convicted for in a court?

Did the people on to catch a predator actually go to jail? I know they had actual police there but I don’t think they ever actual talked to or sent pictures to underage kids. 

3 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Did the people on to catch a predator actually go to jail? I know they had actual police there but I don’t think they ever actual talked to or sent pictures to underage kids. 

I don't know. But were any laws actually broken? Maybe 'intent' is all that is needed, but with no law enforcement agencies involved, can even that be called into doubt? The people posing as the 13 year old have done this to others in the past, right? I wonder if anyone that they 'caught' have been prosecuted.

If they're truly doing this to 'catch' people like that, and not just for the money that their videos generate, I would think that it would probably be better for them to take the evidence to law enforcement before actually setting up a meeting. If their "T's" aren't dotted and their "I's" aren't crossed just right, and if they care about the guilty party being prosecuted, then their potential lack attention to legal details could possibly let that person get off scott free. 

Of course, if publicly exposing someone is their only goal, then what they're doing would accomplish that pretty well. 

21 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Did the people on to catch a predator actually go to jail? I know they had actual police there but I don’t think they ever actual talked to or sent pictures to underage kids. 

I looked up who it was that did the 'sting' on EDP and found this article about a different 'sting' that they did last December:

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Vigilante 'investigation' creates issues for prosecuting cases

https://starherald.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/vigilante-investigation-creates-issues-for-prosecuting-cases/article_8d18e355-0e25-517b-bf52-75faeea1611d.html

Maunette Loeks

Dec 7, 2020 Updated Dec 7, 2020

Sidney authorities are investigating a child enticement case spurred by a vigilante effort to expose alleged child predators on social media.

However, the involvement of four men, who said they were from Texas and posted a video on YouTube under the "Predator Poachers” YouTube channel, may have complicated any attempts to bring the case in front of a court.

According to a probable cause affidavit, Sidney Police began an investigation of a 45-year-old Sidney man after being called to a Sidney apartment building Wednesday, Dec. 2. The apartment manager had contacted police, reporting men in a black SUV who appeared to be watching a Sidney apartment building. Sidney Police attempted to make contact with the men.

The men were part of the group of four men who say in a YouTube video they had drove from Houston, Texas, to confront a man they allege had sought to have a sexual relationship with an 8-year-old girl. At first, according to the video, the men sought to confront him at a Sidney business, but when realizing he wouldn’t be alone, they decide to confront him at his mother’s home.

One of the men tells the man’s mother they are friends and she let the group into her home. Then in a confrontation with the man, they urge him to make admissions, with the leader of the group making such statements as "This could go one of two ways, we could either get the police right now or have a talk with the family” while producing paper copies of illicit photos and social media messages he claims are from the Sidney man. At one point, when talking to the man's mother, the leader of the group claims the man has been sending illicit messages to his younger sister. The man also promises, "If he is being honest with us, he won’t go to jail.”

At different points, the mother reacts with incredulity, confronting her son, while also making different admissions about him being odd or other peculiarities. She even encourages the men to contact police. The men even force the man to wear an embarrassing T-shirt, saying he needs to wear the shirt or they are contacting police.

Eventually, the woman grows angry, says she is going to contact police and orders them from her home. At different times, the men say they will contact police, but talk more about exposing the man by going to the family’s landlord and to his employer. The men say they are also going to contact police, but instead, walk around the apartment complex, calling the landlord and also making contact with residents in the apartment complex. The landlord repeatedly tells them to contact police and even tells them she will contact law enforcement.

The 8-year-old girl, according to videos, is actually an 18-year-old woman posing as an 8-year-old girl. Subsequent videos show the text messages and alleged phone calls reported to have occurred.

At some point before the confrontation, police made contact with the men, who initially lied to police and said they were waiting for their uncle. Later, police made contact with the men a second time. According to the arrest affidavit, police directed to come to the department to file a report and provide evidence of their allegations.  The leader of the Predator Poacher group that visited Sidney is shown on video, narrating as he writes a statement, but the contact with police is not shown.

Police initially arrested the Sidney man on a charge of child enticement, however, Cheyenne County Attorney Paul Schaub said prosecution of charges against him were declined at this time due to the nature of the investigation.

Schaub explained in a press release and to the Star-Herald that crimes involving child enticement require the victim be underage, 16 years or younger when an electronic device is used. There is an exception when a law enforcement officer portrays an underage participant. However, there is no exception in state statute when a non-law enforcement officer portrays an underage participant.

"I haven’t gone through the entire legislative history on the child enticement statute, but I imagine there is a reason that they are including non-law enforcement officers in that exception,” he said. "I would think that is because law enforcement officers are in a better position to identify what is or isn’t entrapment.”

Schaub said entrapment is an affirmative defense in a court case, "which means that the state would have to prove that there was no entrapment. If there were even slight evidence that happened...”

While he did not comment on if some of the acts committed in the videos could be deemed legally as entrapment, he did say that the actions in the confrontation involving the Predator Poacher leader and the Sidney man "was not at all done professionally as I would expect a law enforcement officer would do.” Police became involved after the confrontation, he said, and "there is not a lot that police can do to sanitize a bad, bad investigation from a legal perspective.”

In a police investigation, steps such as securing evidence and other things are also important. Police did conduct an interview with the accused man and Schaub said that he "wouldn’t foreclose on the possibility of some charges in the future.”

He said the investigation is ongoing, including a forensic investigation of cell phone and other electronics. Charges could be filed at a later date, depending on the evidence gathered and the investigation.

There have been instances where television shows and other media have been produced that involve targeting child predators or other criminals. However, Schaub said, in those instances producers and others work with law enforcement to conduct investigations, not conducting them on their own. It is a key difference in bringing a case to prosecution.

The Star-Herald emailed the Predator Poachers organization, using an address listed on the website used by its YouTube channel, but had not received a response to ask questions about the investigation as of press time. A number of Predator Poachers groups have become common on social media, but the intent of most of the organizations and groups seem to be to publicly expose or embarrass alleged predators, rather than providing information to law enforcement.

In a case when parents or others believe child enticement has occurred, Schaub said, the best step is to contact law enforcement.

 

4 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

In thinking about this situation, since the people doing the 'sting' are YouTube people and not law enforcement and the fact that there was no 13 year old child actually involved, would he actually be in any legal trouble? Moral trouble, public trouble, yes. But did he actually break any laws that he would/could actually be convicted for in a court?

I’ve wondered that too.  I have fantasies of robbing a bank but thinking about it isn’t a crime, right?  I know that some of these predator hunters in PA have lead to arrests because the exposing of the person initiates a deeper investigation and can lead to seizing of computers and such which end up having all sorts of disturbing stuff on them.  They don’t necessarily get them on enticing of the fake 13 year olds but if there’s a reason to look into these people that certainly helps open the doors especially when they all admit it on tape. 
 

it also depends on the state statutes. Cell phones have their own set of rules in some instances too so the images he’s sending can be a whole different crime as well. 

He may not have sent it all to an actual 13 year old but he intended to

26 minutes ago, DBW said:

I’ve wondered that too.  I have fantasies of robbing a bank but thinking about it isn’t a crime, right?  I know that some of these predator hunters in PA have lead to arrests because the exposing of the person initiates a deeper investigation and can lead to seizing of computers and such which end up having all sorts of disturbing stuff on them.  They don’t necessarily get them on enticing of the fake 13 year olds but if there’s a reason to look into these people that certainly helps open the doors especially when they all admit it on tape. 
 

it also depends on the state statutes. Cell phones have their own set of rules in some instances too so the images he’s sending can be a whole different crime as well. 

I also wonder of these guys (based on that article that I posted) may have done something that opens them up to potential legal action from their 'victim'. Like if they did something that violates his civil rights or whatever. 

Of course your point about starting an official investigation is true, but since they didn't have law enforcement involved, their 'victim' (EDP in this case) has had ample time to clean up or destroy a lot of evidence that may have been on his computers or phones. 

If these guys care about actually putting 'predators' away, then they need to do things the right way and have law enforcement involved. Without actually watching any of their videos though, I have a sneaking suspicion that they're doing it more for ad revenue on YouTube than anything else. So they don't care about involving law enforcement. But that's just a guess. 

A predator hunting YouTuber and a man seemingly caught in a sting both had their channels removed by the platform

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https://www.insider.com/edp445-allegations-messages-chet-goldstein-youtube-removed-what-did-2021-4

Steven Asarch 

20 hours ago

EDP445 (left) and Alex Rosen (right) in the video 

YouTube/Chet Goldstein

All of the channels associated with EDP445 and Chet Goldstein have been removed from YouTube.

The Chet channel posted a video alleging that EDP445 had sexual conversations with a minor.

Alex Rosen, who ran Chet Goldstein, has a history of controversial content.

YouTube has taken down the channels belonging to Bryan Moreland, known online as EDP445, and Alex Rosen, who ran the Chet Goldstein channel.

The actions, which occurred at the same time, came after Rosen claimed in a video that Moreland had sent sexual messages and images to a decoy posing as a 13-year-old girl. 

On Monday, the Chet Goldstein channel posted an hour-long "sting" video where Rosen and fellow predator hunter Ghost, who runs the channel CC Unit, approached Moreland in Bakersfield, California. Rosen's video at least made it seem like Moreland thought he was going to meet up with a 13-year-old girl. That video went viral, pulling in over two million views.

Moreland, who had built up an audience making videos and ranting about the Philadelphia Eagles, has disappeared from social media since the videos went viral.

The Bakersfield Sheriff's Department told a local ABC affiliate news station on April 22 that the "video's content is under investigation but as of now no arrests have been made." The department did not return a request for comment by publication time. 

Rosen posted an Instagram video about the channel ban, pointing his followers to his side-channel Stanley Yelnatz. Rosen told Insider that he received an email from YouTube, but did not receive a strike, YouTube's term for a warning. Rosen says his stings and content moving forward will be posted to the Predator Poachers website. 

"We can't post anything on YouTube anymore pretty much, that platform just doesn't like us," Rosen says in the Instagram video. 

YouTube did not respond to Insider's request for comment. 

It's not entirely clear what the basis of the bans was

It's still not clear why each creator was banned.

Moreland, the purported subject of the sting, has been accused of messaging multiple minors in the past, and YouTube has taken action against creators who have faced major scandals in the past few months.

Rosen has a history of posting unsavory content along with his stings.

He created the Predator Poachers YouTube channel in 2019 after watching similar YouTubers and experimenting with setting up his own stings. In 2020, it was taken down due to multiple community guideline strikes, though what those strikes were for remains unclear. On that channel, he would often target gay men who were seeking contact with male minors. In one video from the deleted channel, a minor in a sting starts to unbuckle and take off his pants around a suspect before Rosen walks in. The decoy is the cousin of Rosen, who was 16 at the time of recording. 

"I agree it was very irresponsible," Rosen told Insider. "We were 19 and just starting out and we didn't think anything of having a cousin of ours who's a couple of years younger there." 

In another video, a purported minor who was used as bait for a sting said the male target was "touching and kissing me and trying to hold my hand." Rosen said in later clips that he uses minors as bait for his videos.

Aside from using minors in the videos, Rosen created several ethically dubious situations. In one video, where he confronts a Nebraska man who Rosen said sent sexual messages to an 8-year-old decoy, Rosen says that he won't call the police if the man puts on an "I Lick A--" T-shirt.

"We absolutely toy with them, we make sure we get their confession on camera, that is the most important part," Rosen told Insider before the ban. 

Additionally, Rosen posted multiple videos and livestreams where he uses the N-word. In an interview done before the ban of his channel, Rosen said that "it obviously looks bad" and that he has "no hatred in my heart towards any group of people." In one video, Rosen prank called a BLM hotline, used multiple homophobic and racist slurs, and joked about pedophelia. 

 

 

On 4/29/2021 at 12:35 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

A predator hunting YouTuber and a man seemingly caught in a sting both had their channels removed by the platform

 

Sounds like this is All gonna amount to nothing legally.  

Never heard of this person but glad I did not! Tisk Tisk!

On 4/27/2021 at 3:17 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

In thinking about this situation, since the people doing the 'sting' are YouTube people and not law enforcement and the fact that there was no 13 year old child actually involved, would he actually be in any legal trouble? Moral trouble, public trouble, yes. But did he actually break any laws that he would/could actually be convicted for in a court?

Looks like no

https://dailysnark.com/2021/05/07/edp445-has-avoided-charges-after-being-caught-trying-to-meet-up-with-13-year-old-releases-im-back-video/

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Looks like no

https://dailysnark.com/2021/05/07/edp445-has-avoided-charges-after-being-caught-trying-to-meet-up-with-13-year-old-releases-im-back-video/

It doesn't surprise me. The people who did the 'sting' don't seem to care about the legal side of it ("legal side" meaning having charges stick in a court of law). Just on the surface of it, looking at the situation only briefly, it just seems like they were doing it for 'YouTube glory' and as a money making sort of 'scheme'.

Don't get me wrong, if someone can make money doing 'whatever', as long as it's legal, then go for it. But if someone is going to take this sort of task on, then they really ought to be doing it properly and with the potential of legal prosecution in mind. These guys don't seem to care about that, though. 

Everyone posting in this thread is a pedo

1 hour ago, olsilverhair said:

Everyone posting in this thread is a pedo

Everyone?

On 5/7/2021 at 2:00 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

It doesn't surprise me. The people who did the 'sting' don't seem to care about the legal side of it ("legal side" meaning having charges stick in a court of law). Just on the surface of it, looking at the situation only briefly, it just seems like they were doing it for 'YouTube glory' and as a money making sort of 'scheme'.

Don't get me wrong, if someone can make money doing 'whatever', as long as it's legal, then go for it. But if someone is going to take this sort of task on, then they really ought to be doing it properly and with the potential of legal prosecution in mind. These guys don't seem to care about that, though. 

He sent stuff to a person he thought was a minor and went to meetup with the person he thought was a minor. At the very least he should be put on a sex offender list

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

He sent stuff to a person he thought was a minor and went to meetup with the person he thought was a minor. At the very least he should be put on a sex offender list

I completely agree. But since the people that did that, didn't do it correctly, how can they prove that EDP wasn't working with them on a 'skit' for YouTube to make money on the amount of views that it would get? 

Absurd, of course, but if EDP claimed that, how could they prove he's lying if they only did the 'sting' for money to begin with? 

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

He sent stuff to a person he thought was a minor and went to meetup with the person he thought was a minor. At the very least he should be put on a sex offender list

To which he could say "hey, I was in on the whole bit. It was all just a goof"

They then get to retort with

" nah- ah! "

On 5/9/2021 at 7:10 PM, DBW said:

Everyone?

yep, specially hpenis and bobeph, the circus monkeys

On 5/9/2021 at 5:22 PM, olsilverhair said:

Everyone posting in this thread is a pedo

Something you need to get off your chest old timer? You can tell us, it's ok.

Yeah as really weird but funny thread at the same time.

On 4/26/2021 at 11:04 AM, greend said:

I mean wtf is wrong with people?

Well, Greend, I may be a source of constant comedy to many of you here, but this POS is truly evil.

Some people are just so evil, so mentally sick, it just isn't right!