Seventy_Yard_FG Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Why shouldn’t we? Liberals always complain the constitution is outdated. So let’s update it. The whole thing if needed. Conservatives theoretically want to reign things in. Throwing the libs a bone and getting back to a text based interpretation of the constitution is just a win win. im tired of all the supreme courts bogus little theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, NOTW said: I mean, the man did say "We (Delawareans) Were on the South’s Side in the Civil War" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesRocker97 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I'm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Why shouldn’t we? Liberals always complain the constitution is outdated. When you read the Constitution it’s almost in code. It would be more accessible to people if some of the more confusing language was clarified. fun fact: despite the institution of slavery being the discussed throughout the Constitution, the word slavery is never used in the document Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, NOTW said: You should watch the documentary "13th” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: You should watch the documentary "13th” I did, i liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowsHair Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 The constitution could use some updating. But do any of you trust this current pack of fools to be the ones to update it? State legislatures are where the truly crazy politicians are. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventy_Yard_FG Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The constitution could use some updating. But do any of you trust this current pack of fools to be the ones to update it? State legislatures are where the truly crazy politicians are. Current pack of fools? It’s only going to get worse and worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBW Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The constitution could use some updating. But do any of you trust this current pack of fools to be the ones to update it? State legislatures are where the truly crazy politicians are. I don’t think the current pack of fools can tie their own shoes. There’s zero politicians that give an actual damn about our country, they all only care about their personal agendas. If they re-wrote the constitution it would be like the reboot of Point Break 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Current pack of fools? It’s only going to get worse and worse All the more reason to leave it alone. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Omega Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: All the more reason to leave it alone. ^^^^ The courts are the problem, not the constitution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, The_Omega said: ^^^^ The courts are the problem, not the constitution. Little known fact: the courts use precedent in their rulings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogyman Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, The_Omega said: ^^^^ The courts are the problem, not the constitution. Any recent examples of rulings you consider a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventy_Yard_FG Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 The entire doctrine of incorporation is faulty in any case id be willing to bargain here. We can throw in a clause granting health care in return for other strong limited government considerations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 20 hours ago, Dave Moss said: When you read the Constitution it’s almost in code. It would be more accessible to people if some of the more confusing language was clarified. fun fact: despite the institution of slavery being the discussed throughout the Constitution, the word slavery is never used in the document Yeah I know, right? Like what does "shall not be infringed” even mean? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventy_Yard_FG Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 Or "congress shall make no law”? Do they mean my state legislature? The president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toastrel Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Or "congress shall make no law”? Do they mean my state legislature? The president? Congress is a real thing. It is not the president or a state legislature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventy_Yard_FG Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: Congress is a real thing. It is not the president or a state legislature. Indeed so why does the court apply the first amendment to the state legislatures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Indeed so why does the court apply the first amendment to the state legislatures The privileges and immunities & due process clauses in the 14th Amendment serve as the mechanism by which they apply it. The supremacy clause (Article VI section 2) empowers and justifies the mechanism. That's my understanding of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanHammersly Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Nah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Moss Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 The 14th Amendment is the most significant change to the Constitution. It brought the changes that racists are the most bitter about too, which is why Trump spent so much time complaining about it. Tbh, you don’t really need the 15th with the 14th, but Republicans wanted the 15th to alleviate any confusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanHammersly Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 On 5/30/2021 at 7:48 PM, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Why shouldn’t we? Liberals always complain the constitution is outdated. So let’s update it. The whole thing if needed. Conservatives theoretically want to reign things in. Throwing the libs a bone and getting back to a text based interpretation of the constitution is just a win win. im tired of all the supreme courts bogus little theories What do "conservatives" want to reign in exactly? The whole democracy thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: The 14th Amendment is the most significant change to the Constitution. It brought the changes that racists are the most bitter about too, which is why Trump spent so much time complaining about it. Tbh, you don’t need the 15th with the 14th, but Republicans wanted the 15th to alleviate any confusion. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannan Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Anything to end the practice of large mostly empty parcels of land dictating how civilized society lives would be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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